Why does the Guardian hate BHO so?

[stupidicus]

I'm beginning to think that they are a racist rag that should be boycotted here in the states.

It could just be however, that they are still jealous that we won our war of independence, and became the shining beacon of human liberty and rights while they still entertain royalty. WHat are the odds they'll ever get a black prince, princess, king, or queen, as we did a pres, no?

For several years, federal judges have done nothing to remedy this injustice; one famously concluded that the prisoners sentenced under the old law had simply "lost on a temporal roll of the cosmic dice". So, there are American citizens serving tens of thousands of years in prison because, according to all three branches of government, it's just their tough luck?

Apparently so, until two months ago. On 17 May 2013, the US court of appeals for the sixth circuit held that the new, "fair" sentences must be applied to all those previously sentenced under laws that everyone acknowledges were discriminatory. The two-judge majority opinion wrote forcefully (pdf) and with unusual candor about the history of unequal treatment under the old laws. The judges ordered that those sentenced under those laws were entitled to ask federal judges to reduce their sentences.

The Justice Department is now seeking to overturn that decision – which will be devastating news to many thousands like my original crack cocaine client. The Obama administration would surely condemn an oppressive foreign dictator's regime for the singular cruelty of declaring to its population that thousands of its citizens must continue to sit in prison for no good reason. The fact that few have even heard of the stunning position taken by President Obama is a sad reflection on how incurious mainstream US public opinion is about what underpins our mass incarceration society.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/23/us-v-blewett-obama-justice-department-shame

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. The Guardian is one of the better sources, and many of its articles

are written by American journalists. No, Britain won't ever get a black king or queen, but their actual head of government is the Prime Minister, and they could certainly have a non-white PM some day. The monarch is a figurehead with little actual power.

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

2. Because Obama bashing is good for business.

The only profitable publication of Guardian Media Group is Auto Trader.

[sibelian]

5. You're not going to get very far on a leftwing site saying

The Guardian isn't "profitable". It's the right that obsesses over profit.

Also, if you don't take what someone says at face value, you can't really expect them to do the same thing for you.

[AllINeedIsCoffee]

7. Right, because Guardian Media Group doesn't care about profit.

I must've missed the news that they filed as a nonprofit organization.

[stupidicus]

16. I'd simply question whether they know what they are talking about

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-16/guardian-media-returns-to-profit-going-against-the-grain-on-ads.html

As I recall, print media is suffering everywhere anyway.

I couldn't help but notice that the poor thing dodged the substance of the post with the focus on the subject line

[FarCenter]

8. They must think that they can carve out a profitable niche by bringing the left wing of Labour to US

[cali]

3. yes, yes. an article about institutionalized racism in the criminal justice system is

because those nasty people are.... wait for it; racists.

critical thinking. fucking try it on for size.

[stupidicus]

17. was my sarcasm too subtle?

I guess I'll have to work on that

[Fumesucker]

33. Every time someone asks if it was over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor

Some other someone takes it seriously.

[sibelian]

4. Yyyyyeaaaaah.

That'll be me boycotting the Guardian....I guess....

You do realise this is a left wing site, don't you?

[Nye Bevan]

6. Yeah. They should bow down before the Leader of the Free World. What the hell is wrong with them?

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I can't believe that foreign newspapers hold Obama's feet to the fire on stuff like closing Guantanamo Bay and unfair racial disparity in sentencing for drugs possession. Shame on them.


On edit: my bad, missed the sarcasm

[hlthe2b]

9. I'm always gratified when a DUer picks a screen name that is just so perfect, so apropos.

Good gawd...

[truebluegreen]

13. +1

[stupidicus]

18. yep, I've been reading that from rightwingers for better than a decade now

it was why I picked it long ago -- to give weaklings an easy out

[librechik]

10. they fell head over heels for him at first sight--and only later realized

he has deep attachments to other bitches. Including that whore the Global National Security Establishment. Which the Guardian doesn't like, for obvious reasons.

[stupidicus]

36. ain't that the truth

I took for granted that he wouldn't be seeing the Bush Cabal prosecuted, but am slightly surprised at the extent with which he's palled around with them and those they left behind.

[Bluenorthwest]

11. Sorry, the comment from the Guradian is correct, the DOJ's actions are mystifying

and are directly opposed to things both Obama and Holder have said in the past, Holder asked for retroactive reduction of sentences because of the racist nature of those sentences.
In terms of the absurd xenophobia about the Brits in the OP, it indicates that the poster of the OP may not have read the article he or she is posting. The author of the piece at the Guardian is of course American, and here is the biography of that author:
Alec Karakatsanis is a public defender and civil rights lawyer at the Public Defender Service for the District of Columbia, where he litigates cases to reform the criminal justice system. He was recently awarded a grant by Harvard Law School to found a nonprofit civil rights organization called Equal Justice Under Law.

I think people should read the article in question.

[stupidicus]

19. I know

I'm mystified as to why so many missed that

[truebluegreen]

12. I imagine they are as disappointed as I am.

I am thankful that they have a bigger megaphone.

P.S. This post was a joke, right? Right?

[stupidicus]

20. the subject line/my commentary were intended

as a dig on the "if you diss BHO, you might be a racist" line some adopted a while back

[truebluegreen]

31. Ah! My apologies.

Sometimes I don't read as carefully as I should.

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. I think there's a lot of sarcasm in the comments by the thread starter

that several DUers are missing. Some previous OPs from them, on the NSA:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023224211
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023224615
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023325412

So I'm happy to rec this.

[Nye Bevan]

15. DAMN you're right. And I've always prided myself in my ability to spot sarcasm.

Old age creeping up on me?

[stupidicus]

21. thank you

so much for that

[mr blur]

22. You have to remember that to those of us in Europe,

Obama is what we see as Centre-Right, not Left at all. A bit like Cameron.

[stupidicus]

23. indeed

that's the way he is seen by an increasing number here as well, with perhaps a lefty bone or two.

The ideological center lin has been drifting slowly rightwards for more than a couple of decades now imo.

[QC]

24. The Guardian never really loved him!!!

[stupidicus]

25. lol

those evil, hateful bastards.

[QC]

26. They just want President Palin!

[stupidicus]

27. that would make sense

given the established relationship between racism and stupidity

There's not much difference between the Iron Lady and Mooselady -- the biggest is probably hairstyle.

[QC]

34. Thatcher was one of the most horrible people in history,

but I don't think she was dumb.

Palin is really, really dumb, though she does seems to have decent political instincts, not to mention a natural talent for grifting.

[stupidicus]

37. very true

I suppose it depends on how you measure intelligence in terms of career successes.

It could be said that Thatcher was just a slightly more talented grifter, given what she successfully sold to the Brits

[Rex]

28. Browser Helper Objects can be dangerous and lead to malware and viruses.

Always know if you installed a tool bar and if you did make sure it is from a trusted source.

[stupidicus]

29. Really?

I check mine periodically with my free BHOdemon, and smite the invaders if present.

[BlueCheese]

30. Satire. I got it.

[Federosky]

32. I appreciate your suggestion to boycott the Guardian, but

Don't count me in.

[99Forever]

35. Probabaly the same reason that...

... many of us are less than impressed with him.

Tends to happen when you mislead people on a massive scale.

No Turd Way candidate will ever get my vote or support again. EVER.

[stupidicus]

38. I know what you mean

I keep hoping that sometime before I die that I can vote for someone for pres without it being a "lesser of two evils" choice.

I always vote dem regardless because of the SCOTUS appointments.