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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: FBI announces rescue of 105 CHILDREN in 76 cities... 150 "pimps" arrested.
JUST IN: FBI announces rescue of 105 children involved in sex trafficking and exploitation across 76 US cities. nbcnews.to/1aSIout
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and not just some low-level lackeys
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)I'm not religious, but I'll thank the gods for these children's deliverance.
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)FSogol
(45,448 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)It was interesting, yet sad, to watch. These "pimps" basically foster young girls who don't have much love in their lives and then turn them out, telling them if they really loved them, they'd do this.
I hope beyond the arrests and rescuing these kids that they see fit to get them long-term help. Otherwise, another "pimp" will get their hands on these children and do the same thing to them.
whttevrr
(2,345 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 29, 2013, 12:59 PM - Edit history (1)
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/05/sex-trafficking-201105?currentPage=allSee post #38 for excerpts from the Vanity Fair article.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Not spying on protesters.
Good job!
progressoid
(49,951 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)leftstreet
(36,101 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)is the collector of info (metadata, no content) and the FBI are the requesters for info. Once they get the metadata they can then surveill the scum and see/hear who they are talking to, etc., with access to full content of calls when they get the who called who when info.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)NSA isn't allowed to collect its own information domestically; it just analyzes.
The NSA also isn't a law enforcement agency, so I doubt they would go after child porn; their mission is to keep US communications secure.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)I didn't make myself clear.
The NSA doesn't 'go' after anyone. As you said, they have the data and it's the FBI that would have to request data from them, after they get their warrants and wot wot. If they have a suspects phone number, then they can see who that suspect talks too and make their net wider for investigation. Just phone records at that point. After the who called who when, they can wiretap and collect whole conversations.
Phone records, or what is now called metadata, have been usable in court cases for a very long time. Probably since their invention.
Paulie
(8,462 posts)Same for the CIA.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)judge in the nation not granting the FBI a warrant to directly wire tap
these cretins.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)NSA is for terrorists and nonAmericans supposedly.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)marble falls
(57,013 posts)snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)questionable means.
Anyone trying to claim this as some kind of vindication of mass NSA domestic surveillance ought to be ashamed of themselves. I can't easily imagine a lower form of opportunism and deceit.
Marr
(20,317 posts)Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)This is police work, not snoop through every piece of data work.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)In this case it is the FBI.
Keep up.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Or, are you meaning in a daily briefing type of way?
Whisp
(24,096 posts)that info was mashed into all the other tons of it shortly after the Snowden story broke and I don't save links.
Maybe someone else has something on that.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)Social Network monitoring was part of it, according to the press conference.
And that's fine by me.
leftstreet
(36,101 posts)Warrants. Judges.
Hello?
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)105 rescued children justifies any corners they may have cut or data they may have looked at.
105 rescued children justifies any perceived violation of rights of the scum that were involved in holding these children.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)If they cut too big of corners, the "pimps" could go free.
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)leftstreet
(36,101 posts)Chemisse
(30,803 posts)no matter how disgusting the crime is.
The system is set up to allow all sorts of surveillance if there is a reason to suspect someone of a crime. These people can be caught without violating all of our rights.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Like others have said, this is the kind of work the FBI should be involved in. And this is incredibly great news for the 105 kids rescued. I hope they can begin to heal and reclaim their lives soon.
As for the methods, I have no idea what they used. But, ends do not absolutely absolve the means. I hope that the FBI careful and used proper and legal means so that charges and convictions will not be unnecessarily burdened or lost.
nil desperandum
(654 posts)Catching these types of predators, using their resources to connect the dots across the nation is indeed what the FBI should be doing all day long. Nicely done here, and here's hoping these 150 predators have a miserable existence for the rest of their (hopefully short) lives.
malaise
(268,712 posts)Yesssssssssss!
Whisp
(24,096 posts)and I'm not usually pro execution, but when it comes to this - yeh, fry the fucking scum and whoever watches their porn.
cali
(114,904 posts)the worthless disclaimer is noted. It's what you pro state killing almost invariably post before talking about killing people.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)seeing as I am imperfect I will keep this 'pro state' killing thing.
Those people don't deserve to live - they deserve an erasure. I don't give a fuck what you think about me for thinking that.
cali
(114,904 posts)it's not just that you're pro dp. it's the whole "I'm really not" thing so delightfully mixed with your pronouncement on who deserves to live and the the language you employ.
I certainly don't expect you give a fuck what I think. That's not why I posted.
thankfully you and your ilk won't get the dp extended further.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)I know how you operate and am not interested in further discussion.
But I will say again, and in bold: Kill those fucking scum. The sooner the better.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)What's with all the pro death penalty shit around here lately anyway? Justice can be sought without employing the state to kill people.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)and that fits with my morals just fine. you can keep yours.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)How remarkably enlightened.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It's tough for many people to understand the difference between a visceral reaction to an abhorrent action, and a thoughtful and rationalize analysis of that same action.
I'd imagine one would have to be either an idiot, or merely want to be seen as more clever than they really are to confuse the two.
cali
(114,904 posts)I've never seen anyone who spewed like the person I addressed ever come back and say, that was an emotional reaction and I don't really want to see it happen.
Never. I imagine that sometimes people say what they mean about these issues. Incredible, eh?
Your sig, appropriate here.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Now, hopefully they do not come out and say "btw, we use the NSA metadata to find them all."
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Why did it take this long then? They have been doing this for quite some time.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Or, if it does, they can't let the people know, because it's soooo top secret.
So they're using it against us instead...Americans... just the way the ACLU and many other organizations and people having been warning us about.
NSA: "Oh nooos...what to do, what to do so the citizens forget they are being spied on 24/7? We must calm down the prols. Let's roll out a campaign using metadata to catch the kind of criminals all the prols will be disgusted with...child pimps. That'll make them look the other way."
Hmmmm.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)participated, a cause I can be happy about. They can run but they can't hide forever.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Good work for the FBI, despite all the hatred directed at them No one else has solutions to track these guys down and free these kids by putting the perps away.
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)Eugene
(61,819 posts)Source: Huffington Post
Posted: 07/29/2013 10:57 am EDT | Updated: 07/29/2013 11:22 am EDT
The FBI has rescued 105 child sex-trafficking victims, FBI Assistant Director Ronald Hosko announced Monday.
The youngest of the rescued children was 9 years old, according to Reuters.
One underage victim told officials she became involved with prostitution when she was 11, according to CNN.
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Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/child-sex-trafficking-rescue-fbi-announcement_n_3670749.html
Bryn
(3,621 posts)due to NAFTA, repeal of Glass-Steagall Act, etc. you know the rest ... so people will do anything ugly just to survive.
Bryn
(3,621 posts)What I meant is the root of this problem is due to lack of job, money, etc. so...
Peace out. Sorry
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)I don't know ANY unemployed person that would stoop to this.
This happens even in best of economic times.
This has nothing to do with NAFTA. How did you even figure out how to turn on a computer?
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Mass
(27,315 posts)Sometimes, people try very hard to make connections.
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Bryn
(3,621 posts)Feel better now?
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Bryn
(3,621 posts)I wasn't being bullshit. I merely made a dumb suggestion that perhaps it was due to this bad economy...with so many people out of job from NAFTA (jobs moving to oversea) so they'd look for ugly way to survive so never mind this as others have pointed out that this existed for eons even during best, thriving times. Threads are for debate/discussion ... not to insult. So grow up!
Not up to more insults like two idiots insulting each other back & forth ruining the whole thread so I will stop now and you, too.
Peace out.
JI7
(89,240 posts)whttevrr
(2,345 posts)There is a section in this article from Vanity Fair that tells of a woman setting her underage niece up for a pimp.
And another section explains how these young women are sold for as little as 2 for 1200 dollars.
But there is so much more horror out there
May 24 2011
Thankfully there are good people in this world who work to protect our most vulnerable.
riqster
(13,986 posts)Kudos to the FBI.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)It also shines light on the dark secret of human trafficking and slave trade that is ongoing in the US.
William769
(55,144 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)NATIONAL PRESS RELEASE
105 Juveniles Recovered in Nationwide Operation Targeting Underage Prostitution
Washington, D.C.
July 29, 2013
During the past 72 hours, the FBI; its local, state, and federal law enforcement partners; and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) conducted Operation Cross Country VII, a three-day enforcement action to address commercial child sex trafficking throughout the United States. The operation included enforcement actions in 76 cities across 47 FBI divisions nationwide and led to the recovery of 105 children who were being victimized through prostitution. Additionally, 150 pimps were arrested on state and federal charges.
Child prostitution remains a persistent threat to children across America, said Ron Hosko, assistant director of the FBIs Criminal Investigative Division. This operation serves as a reminder that these abhorrent crimes can happen anywhere, and the FBI remains committed to stopping this cycle of victimization and holding the criminals who profit from this exploitation accountable.
Operation Cross Country is part of the Innocence Lost National Initiative that was established in 2003 by the FBIs Criminal Investigative Division, in partnership with the Department of Justice and NCMEC, to address the growing problem of child prostitution.
Operation Cross Country demonstrates just how many of Americas children are being sold for sex every day, many on the Internet, said John Ryan, CEO of NCMEC. Were honored and proud to partner with the FBI, which has taken the lead in tackling this escalating problem.
To date, the FBI and its task force partners have recovered more than 2,700 children from the streets. The investigations and subsequent 1,350 convictions have resulted in lengthy sentences, including 10 life terms and the seizure of more than $3.1 million in assets.
Task force operations usually begin as local enforcement actions that target truck stops, casinos, street tracks, and websites that advertise dating or escort services, based on intelligence gathered by officers working in their respective jurisdictions. Initial arrests are often violations of local and state laws relating to prostitution or solicitation. Information gleaned from those arrested frequently uncovers organized efforts to prostitute women and children across many states. FBI agents further develop this evidence in partnership with U.S. Attorneys Offices and the U.S. Department of Justices Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section so that prosecutors can help bring federal charges in those cities where child prostitution occurs.
The Innocence Lost National Initiative brings state and federal law enforcement agencies, prosecutors, and social service providers from across the country to NCMEC for training.
The FBI thanks the its local, state, and federal law enforcement partners representing more than 230 separate agencies who participated in Operation Cross Country VII and their ongoing enforcement efforts.
The following list denotes FBI divisions, not necessarily actual cities, where juveniles were recovered and pimps were arrested.
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Resources:
To learn more about Operation Cross Country and the Innocence Lost National Initiative, visit www.fbi.gov, www.justice.gov, or www.ncmec.org.
Operation Cross Country VII video
Operation Cross Country
Recovering Victims of Child Sex Trafficking
07/29/13
Operation Cross Countrya three-day nationwide enforcement action focusing on underage victims of prostitutionhas concluded with the recovery of 105 sexually exploited children and the arrests of 150 pimps and other individuals.
The sweep took place in 76 cities and was carried out by the FBI in partnership with local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies, and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) as part of the Bureaus Innocence Lost National Initiative. It is the seventh and largest such enforcement action to date.
Child prostitution remains a persistent threat to children across America, said Ron Hosko, assistant director of the FBIs Criminal Investigative Division. This operation serves as a reminder that these abhorrent crimes can happen anywhere and that the FBI remains committed to stopping this cycle of victimization and holding the criminals who profit from this exploitation accountable.
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Forty-seven FBI divisions took part in Operation Cross Country VII, along with more than 3,900 local, state, and federal law enforcement officers and agents representing 230 separate agencies.
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)And if they all went away, like many here on DU advocate, the crap that would happen in this country.
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)Some would rather hundreds of children stay in sexual captivity than let the FBI do what it needs to do to catch the criminals.
perdita9
(1,144 posts)It's great that we have people who can do this work. I would fall apart, dealing with something like this.
libodem
(19,288 posts)The recovery will just be beginning for those poor little kids.
Why does innocence and purity draw such filth and depravity? I can't fit it into my psyche.
Thank heavens they have been rescued.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)These investigations take a lot of time, analysis, and legwork before a move like this can be made. Good on the FBI.
As for the speculation on whether the NSA's metadata was used to assist in this, that is unknown. There is sharing between agencies, though, so it's possible that it was used in some way. I don't know, and that hasn't been revealed in any of the stories, so it's only speculation, whoever mentions it.
I hope more such arrests are made and more underaged girls are freed, however they do it.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)That is great work. Hope the pimps rot in hell.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)Only a pedophile would support ending blanket phone surveillance.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Now we need "blanket phone surveillance" or we are a pedophile? Fuck that noise. Get a goddamn warrant.
ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)This genius thinks by posting this he can pre-empt the "inevitable" such announcement of this type to prove his point about how any critics of NSA surveillance (which had absolutely nothing to do with this) are going to be demonized. Of course when that never happens (because as noted the NSA does engage in domestic surveillance) it'll all be forgotten like thousands of other DU posts throughout the years.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)but keep on spouting your opinions as fact. It's humorous.
ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)You're the one who started with the baseless accusation and prediction of a talking point that I would bet money in Vegas would never happen.
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)But if you can't respond with a sensible answer than you have failed the Turing test. Are you a persona?
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)I don't doubt that Obama is capable of using this to score "crucify Snowden" points.
AllINeedIsCoffee
(772 posts)There are no words.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)when it comes to stories about children, puppies, kittens, snowflakes, etc.
So I'll accept your uncritical, unthinking headslap as a compliment.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)wtmusic
(39,166 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)what most of you and Snowden and Glenn are screeching with fire about, many of us knew about years ago. Why is that?
Why does Glenn bring up that kind of intentionally incendiary story now.
Creepy but necessary. Unfortunately people being what they are, there are ones who will use and abuse their powers for other purposes than what they were intended.
It's because that what he did last midterm. He ratfucked with Jane Hamsher.
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wtmusic
(39,166 posts)You didn't manage to get jack shit done about it, did you?
Greenwald and Snowden did. Today's New York Times:
Momentum Builds Against N.S.A. Surveillance
"WASHINGTON The movement to crack down on government surveillance started with an odd couple from Michigan, Representatives Justin Amash, a young libertarian Republican known even to his friends as chief wing nut, and John Conyers Jr., an elder of the liberal left in his 25th House term.
But what began on the political fringes only a week ago has built a momentum that even critics say may be unstoppable, drawing support from Republican and Democratic leaders, attracting moderates in both parties and pulling in some of the most respected voices on national security in the House.
The rapidly shifting politics were reflected clearly in the House on Wednesday, when a plan to defund the National Security Agencys telephone data collection program fell just seven votes short of passage. Now, after initially signaling that they were comfortable with the scope of the N.S.A.s collection of Americans phone and Internet activities, but not their content, revealed last month by Edward J. Snowden, lawmakers are showing an increasing willingness to use legislation to curb those actions."
Never would have happened without them.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)or have a better memory.
I remember old Perry Mason shows, and they brought in phone records with times and durations for a lot of cases.
And that is what metadata is, regardless of all the Greenwalding about it.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)"NSA spying flap extends to contents of U.S. phone calls
The National Security Agency has acknowledged in a new classified briefing that it does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls, a participant in the briefing said.
Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed on Thursday that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed "simply based on an analyst deciding that."
If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, Nadler said he learned. "I was rather startled," said Nadler, an attorney and congressman who serves on the House Judiciary committee. "
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-spying-flap-extends-to-contents-of-u.s-phone-calls/
ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)Seriously, ugh. I can't believe people are trying to make such cheap points over the rescue of children from such disgusting exploitation.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)I keep remembering the PBS Frontline special where it was bigwigs in the Republican Party and big time CEOs. I'm talking "captains of industry" on the order of the head of US Steel. They were getting boys out of "Boys Town" made famous in the 38 movie with Spencer Tracy.
stonecutter357
(12,694 posts)Grate job FBI,
I wonder if the NSA helped?
madokie
(51,076 posts)it left me believing they arrested some pimps here in Tulsa too.
rescued six children
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)I hope the children are given lots of counseling and support from here on out.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Maybe they can do something good after all.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)They are what they are. These are human rights violators.
zazen
(2,978 posts)It's the "demand" for this shit that really blows me away. A small percentage of humans will be sick and evil, but the larger number of men who somehow deny that the girl they think is "freely" exchanging sex for money is 14 and coerced--or who don't bother to find out--just stuns me.
These are clearly not the supposedly empowered sex workers putting themselves through college or paying the bills as single parents that the pro-pornography crowd always trots out. If johns want to patronize them, so be it--but a crying or obviously drugged 13-year-old? Who could get an erection, let alone have an orgasm, while inflicting that kind of suffering?