Greewald trolled the US government and they bit.. Hard

[Fumesucker]

They aren't going to find anything in all that electronics confiscated from Glenn's partner, the trip and announcements and so forth was strictly a move to trigger exactly what happened.

Greenwald was a good move or two ahead of the spooks, the actual data is on a micro SD card or three headed to Germany by DHL or FedEx or even the Post Office as anonymously as Greenwald and the Guardian can arrange.

You know if we've got to have spooks can't they at least be smart ones? This is twice now in only a few weeks that the spooks have been punked big time.

[grasswire]

1. Is this related to the leaks titled "insurance"?

I don't know the answer to that question.

[KittyWampus]

2. The US Govt didn't detain Greenwald's partner. Get your facts straight before spouting nonsense.

[RetroLounge]

21. ...

RL

[cui bono]

26. Sometimes I wish I too were more naive than cynical. n/t

[KittyWampus]

28. Facts are facts. Being cynical just makes some people more impervious to facts, I guess.

"They say the sky is blue but I REALLY know the truth".

[KittyWampus]

3. Oh, and fact is that Greenwald's various timelines don't hold up. It's looking as if he did indeed

conspire with the Wikileaks crowd to groom and use Snowden.

So I don't think he's steps ahead of anyone.

[JI7]

4. i thought it was the British

[GliderGuider]

7. At that level, is there a difference?

Not according to the docs Snowden and Greenwald have released. According to the documents released, GCHQ is the NSA's poodle.

[KittyWampus]

13. WTF? So facts don't matter at "that level"?

[Fumesucker]

16. No, at that level the two governments are all but joined at the hip

You might recall that Tony Bliar followed Dubya into Iraq although the British should have known better than anyone just how badly that was going to turn out, given that they set it up to be an all but ungovernable disaster to start with.

[KittyWampus]

29. Right, we don't have separate elections or anything. Oh, and Blair/Bush was over 10 years ago.

[AnalystInParadise]

31. And Ironically the Patriot Act has been renewed ten times

AND domestic surveillance has increased......oh yeah and now we have drones that can kill people almost anywhere anytime....we can even kill American teenagers...... The more things change..........

[Cali_Democrat]

5. This post begs the question

Why is the data headed to Germany?

[cthulu2016]

8. Because they bombed Pearl Harbor.

But it wasn't over, mind you.

[LearningCurve]

17. The Avengers is the world Hitler dreamed about in 1960

[BeyondGeography]

6. You know what you're talking about

[Fumesucker]

15. I made a prediction, bookmark it

If I turn out to be wrong and they find illicit data on those electronics then come back and make me consume corvidae.

[Catherina]

9. They already broke into Greenwald's home in June and stole his partner's laptop

and got nothing. This is from late June

“When I was in Hong Kong, I spoke to my partner in Rio via Skype and told him I would send an electronic encrypted copy of the documents,” Greenwald said. “I did not end up doing it. Two days later his laptop was stolen from our house and nothing else was taken. Nothing like that has happened before. I am not saying it’s connected to this, but obviously the possibility exists.”

When asked if Greenwald believed his computer was being monitored by the U.S. government. “I would be shocked if the U.S. government were not trying to access the information on my computer. I carry my computers and data with me everywhere I go.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/25/greenwald-snowden-s-files-are-out-there-if-anything-happens-to-him.html

Now this. And they're going to get nothing again.

[Egnever]

11. Yea I am sure no one else would be interested in getting their hands on classified docs

detailing US electronic surveillance. Especially not the Chinese who monitor their internet closely and would be very interested in GG's skype chats on the subject from Hong Kong..

It just had to be that bad ole US government..Glen told me so!

Good grief.

[Whisp]

12. ''I am not saying it’s connected to this, but obviously the possibility exists.”

Yes, all kinds of possibilities exist.

This is no way is any proof that 'they' stole anything from greenwald. Does he have a report filed of the break in? Has he in some way, besides just making talk, no, he says so himself that it is a possibility and yet the story IS about



They already broke into Greenwald's home in June and stole his partner's laptop

He just has to plant that tiny seed and Voila!, he knows how it will grow.

[KoKo]

10. Was talking about this

with my partner. He said "Double Sting"...then we talked it over...and thought that wasn't the correct phrase for that operation.

Whatever...we were on your same wave length... There are still some loose threads in there though...but...close enough to what you think to think that there is more to come out there than what the initial reports are. The loose threads..are the question.

We Shall See!

[Rex]

14. They seem to be running around with hair on fire.

nt.

[Autumn]

18. I think Glenn is smart enough not to put his partner in jeopardy.

He knows that they are being watched and monitored. The laptop stolen from their home after Glenn had emailed him would have tipped them off to that, You would think the idiot who decided to have Mr. Miranda held would know that too.

[Fumesucker]

19. Particularly for something as ridiculously easy as delivering a memory chip somewhere

I had an SD card go through the washer and dryer a few weeks ago, I'd missed it in my pocket when I did the laundry.

It still worked fine after all that, mailing one inside almost anything would be practical.

[pnwmom]

20. The British have their own motives for stopping him,

and their own long history of misuse of terrorism laws.

You have no basis except for speculation for your claim that the US government was behind this.

[Fumesucker]

22. I made a prediction, bookmark it

If I turn out to be wrong and they do find illicit intel on the electronics confiscated from Miranda then you can come back and tell me how wrong I was.

I'm sure you would enjoy that.

[pnwmom]

23. What I said has nothing to do with whether they find anything on his electronics.

I just said that Britain has its own motives for being concerned about Greenwald's future revelations, and its own long history of misuse of terrorism laws.

[frylock]

24. roffle

[Mojorabbit]

25. Do you think he would put his partner, the person he loves through that?

It seems beyond the pale to me. I would never put a loved one in that position.

[Fumesucker]

27. I'd be surprised if they weren't working as a team

Perhaps it was Miranda's idea and decision, there's really no way of knowing.

[Fuddnik]

30. You mean the President lost at 13 dimensional chess?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Blasphemy!