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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMost Americans want Obama care REPEALED
I call this polling BULLSHIT It depends on how the question is asked.If you ask parents who have kids on there plan I bet you will get a different answer.Ask those senior citizens about the doughnut hole and see if they want ithttp://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/quinnipiac-poll-repeal-obamacare/2012/02/24/id/430515 repealed.
aquart
(69,014 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Black and Gold
(28 posts)don't think it is the best thing for the country.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... and replaced with Medicare for All.
earthside
(6,960 posts)My reason, however, is from a liberal/progressive perspective.
Single-payer or Medicare-for-All.
The individual mandate in Obamacare that would force me to buy insurance from a private, for-profit corporation makes me furious.
And, though it may be good for my 23 year old son, the fact that I may have to pay for his health insurance until he is 26 years old doesn't exactly thrill me either -- yet this is touted as some kind of great advance.
Finally, it still sticks in my craw that Pres. Obama sold us out on the public plan option and on pharmaceuticals.
JNathanK
(185 posts)I really don't. If I remember right, Bob Dole proposed the same thing in the 90's.
crunch60
(1,412 posts)has improved substantially. Many fought against it, but it has been a lifesaver for many seniors, and a very successful program. I hope Obama care will improve as well. I do feel he made to many concessions to the Repukes (die quickly). Obama should have fought harder for single payer, universal coverage.
Does the good outweigh the bad with the new health reform bill?
Don't know for sure, because I haven't read the 2,000 page document, only parts of it. It will take time I'm afraid.
Link to improvements of Medicare over the years.
http://ssa.gov/history/pdf/WhatMedicareMeant.pdf
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)states that most Americans support the Arizona immigration law.
I wouldn't put too much stock in this poll.
earthside
(6,960 posts)Most Americans probably do believe that the economy is still in recession because it is in the real world of working and middle class folks. Maybe not from the perspective of egghead statisticians and economists, but from the everyday reality of pretty much zero wage growth, rising inflation, soaring gasoline prices, and over eight percent unemployment.
Who is surprised that Obamacare is favored to be repealed? There are plenty of people on the left who don't like it either.
Finally, most polling has shown that a majority of Americans are not happy about illegal immigration. So, they may not know the specifics of Arizona's law, but they do want something done about illegal immigration ... including me.
But there is plenty in the poll that aligns with the President and Democrats.
Quinnipiac usually does a fairly accurate poll, in my opinion.
bayareamike
(602 posts)Ter
(4,281 posts)I thought we were.
Not sure if that was sarcasm..but no, we're not.
Granted, times are VERY tough for millions of Americans -- many of my family members and friends are roughing it out day after day -- but we're not in a recession. The economy has been growing since mid-2009. We're pulling out of the hole, no thanks to the GOP.
Things ARE getting better.
MADem
(135,425 posts)when he was polling in the teens.
You're right to call the polling bullshit, because it is.
appleannie1
(5,060 posts)TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)n/t
TheCowsCameHome
(40,167 posts)Newsmax?
demosincebirth
(12,529 posts)JNathanK
(185 posts)demosincebirth
(12,529 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)repealed ... only if it were to be replaced by a single provider system
pampango
(24,692 posts)Not sure whether this is due to the consistent beating that "Obamacare" gets from republicans and in the press or what.
The trick for the republicans will be to make the campaign against "Obamacare" as an amorphous ("big government", "socialist" health care program. While for Democrats the idea will be to campaign on the specific provisions of ACA and let the republicans try to argue against the specifics.
veganlush
(2,049 posts)second, the democrats have done a terrible job explaining the ACA to the public, so the public is ignorant. the ACA is like auto insurance. The individual mandate means that the cost of the uninsured showing up for care is shifted from the insured and the tax payers, where is is pre-ACA, to private insurance companies, where it belongs. Most people don't know this, even many, many democratic voters, because the leadership has done an amazing poor job explaining it. They find it easier to distance themselves from it because many of THEM haven't taken the time to understand it.
I have an uninsured relative who went to the emergency room with a swollen face. It turned out to be an infection from a piercing through his lip. It was a dangerous infection and a minor surgical procedure was required along with a two night stay and antibiotics. As an uninsured young man, he paid nothing. The hospital pays for these things from several directions. They "write off" losses for such as "charitable giving" to reduce tax liability which that takes care of a portion. This reduction in tax liability gets made up by others paying more in taxes, and/or deficits growing, in others words, there's no free lunch. They also charge insured people more for everything to offset some of the rest of their "loss". That's where eight dollar aspirins and many other inflated prices come from. Lastly, they cut their CEO's bonuses (NO I made that last one up just to see who's paying attention) "obamacare", on the other hand, will require my relative to buy his own PRIVATE insurance policy. This is how Obamacare shifts the burden of the uninsured from the insured and the taxpayers to the newly INSURED and the PRIVATE insurance companies.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Since most of the package has not come into effect and very few Americans really understand what it is or will do, it is too soon to know what Americans think of it.
bhikkhu
(10,711 posts)I'm pretty sure you could demonstrate that they don't know the first thing about it.
spanone
(135,781 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,018 posts)still be against the plan in general.
Are there a bunch of people who don't get that the underlying system is unchanged and think some scary new evil is going to unfold based on fear attacks. Sure, but that isn't all of the opposition by any stretch.
Don't be shocked if familarity breeds even greater contempt, we let the TeaPubliKlans pack their brainchild with all kinds of amendments with nary a vote.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)just not reliable sources
donheld
(21,311 posts)You are not new here. You should know better.
marlakay
(11,424 posts)People like the rest of it.
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)YellowRubberDuckie
(19,736 posts)They are only listening to the people who are most against it: The right and the health insurance providers. It has nothing to do with the truth. The bill is actually really good for the American people. It just isn't good for health insurance companies who keep letting people die so they can buy their next vacation home in Bora Bora or something.