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Most Americans want Obama care REPEALED (Original Post) bigdarryl Feb 2012 OP
Newsmax is not a reliable source. aquart Feb 2012 #1
+1 sakabatou Feb 2012 #2
True but its a Quinnipiac poll bigdarryl Feb 2012 #5
I personally... Black and Gold Feb 2012 #3
I'd like to see it repealed... Scuba Feb 2012 #4
I would answer 'repeal'. earthside Feb 2012 #15
Yah, I don't see what the dispute over a single payer system is. JNathanK Feb 2012 #22
Since it's inception in 1965, Medicare crunch60 Feb 2012 #31
Here's a complete break down of the polling bigdarryl Feb 2012 #6
It also ProSense Feb 2012 #13
Sounds like a pretty good poll. earthside Feb 2012 #18
66 percent of voters think we're in a recession? bayareamike Feb 2012 #7
We're not? Ter Feb 2012 #29
Nope. bayareamike Feb 2012 #33
It's Newsmax. They're the same idiots who told their readers that Dubya was beloved MADem Feb 2012 #8
Newsmax leans right and their polls can be freeped. appleannie1 Feb 2012 #9
It's a Quinippiac Univ. poll eom TransitJohn Feb 2012 #10
Newsmax? Are you kidding? TheCowsCameHome Feb 2012 #11
Newsmax is not a source demosincebirth Feb 2012 #12
Newsmax is Newspeak JNathanK Feb 2012 #24
News source scale of 1-10? Newsmax - 5 demosincebirth Feb 2012 #26
Replaced with Medicare For All B Calm Feb 2012 #14
improved yes ... etherealtruth Feb 2012 #16
FWIW, past polls have shown that "Obamacare" is not as popular as are its provisions. pampango Feb 2012 #17
first, it's crappy pollster veganlush Feb 2012 #19
I don't believe that. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #20
If you gave that same "most" a quick quiz on Obamacare - bhikkhu Feb 2012 #21
most americans don't have a clue what it is. spanone Feb 2012 #23
Many that do like it even less. One can be fond of a feature or even a few and TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #25
Newsmax and Quinnipiac, may as well ask Rush and Beck Motown_Johnny Feb 2012 #27
Newsmax? donheld Feb 2012 #28
I think it's the mandate part marlakay Feb 2012 #30
CNN Poll: Support rises for health insurance mandate joshcryer Feb 2012 #32
They've never read the bill. YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #34

earthside

(6,960 posts)
15. I would answer 'repeal'.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 05:30 PM
Feb 2012

My reason, however, is from a liberal/progressive perspective.

Single-payer or Medicare-for-All.

The individual mandate in Obamacare that would force me to buy insurance from a private, for-profit corporation makes me furious.

And, though it may be good for my 23 year old son, the fact that I may have to pay for his health insurance until he is 26 years old doesn't exactly thrill me either -- yet this is touted as some kind of great advance.

Finally, it still sticks in my craw that Pres. Obama sold us out on the public plan option and on pharmaceuticals.

JNathanK

(185 posts)
22. Yah, I don't see what the dispute over a single payer system is.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:19 PM
Feb 2012

I really don't. If I remember right, Bob Dole proposed the same thing in the 90's.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
31. Since it's inception in 1965, Medicare
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 05:46 AM
Feb 2012

has improved substantially. Many fought against it, but it has been a lifesaver for many seniors, and a very successful program. I hope Obama care will improve as well. I do feel he made to many concessions to the Repukes (die quickly). Obama should have fought harder for single payer, universal coverage.
Does the good outweigh the bad with the new health reform bill?
Don't know for sure, because I haven't read the 2,000 page document, only parts of it. It will take time I'm afraid.

Link to improvements of Medicare over the years.

http://ssa.gov/history/pdf/WhatMedicareMeant.pdf

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. It also
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 05:22 PM
Feb 2012

states that most Americans support the Arizona immigration law.

In fact, voters say 50 - 39 percent, including 51 - 37 percent among independent voters, that the U.S. Supreme Court should overturn Obama's health care reform law. Voters approve 64 - 32 percent of Arizona's immigration law and say 61 - 31 percent they want the Supreme Court to uphold it.


I wouldn't put too much stock in this poll.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
18. Sounds like a pretty good poll.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 05:45 PM
Feb 2012

Most Americans probably do believe that the economy is still in recession because it is in the real world of working and middle class folks. Maybe not from the perspective of egghead statisticians and economists, but from the everyday reality of pretty much zero wage growth, rising inflation, soaring gasoline prices, and over eight percent unemployment.

Who is surprised that Obamacare is favored to be repealed? There are plenty of people on the left who don't like it either.

Finally, most polling has shown that a majority of Americans are not happy about illegal immigration. So, they may not know the specifics of Arizona's law, but they do want something done about illegal immigration ... including me.

But there is plenty in the poll that aligns with the President and Democrats.

Quinnipiac usually does a fairly accurate poll, in my opinion.

bayareamike

(602 posts)
33. Nope.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 06:47 PM
Feb 2012

Not sure if that was sarcasm..but no, we're not.

Granted, times are VERY tough for millions of Americans -- many of my family members and friends are roughing it out day after day -- but we're not in a recession. The economy has been growing since mid-2009. We're pulling out of the hole, no thanks to the GOP.

Things ARE getting better.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. It's Newsmax. They're the same idiots who told their readers that Dubya was beloved
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 04:55 PM
Feb 2012

when he was polling in the teens.

You're right to call the polling bullshit, because it is.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
17. FWIW, past polls have shown that "Obamacare" is not as popular as are its provisions.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 05:36 PM
Feb 2012

Not sure whether this is due to the consistent beating that "Obamacare" gets from republicans and in the press or what.

The trick for the republicans will be to make the campaign against "Obamacare" as an amorphous ("big government", "socialist&quot health care program. While for Democrats the idea will be to campaign on the specific provisions of ACA and let the republicans try to argue against the specifics.

veganlush

(2,049 posts)
19. first, it's crappy pollster
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 05:48 PM
Feb 2012

second, the democrats have done a terrible job explaining the ACA to the public, so the public is ignorant. the ACA is like auto insurance. The individual mandate means that the cost of the uninsured showing up for care is shifted from the insured and the tax payers, where is is pre-ACA, to private insurance companies, where it belongs. Most people don't know this, even many, many democratic voters, because the leadership has done an amazing poor job explaining it. They find it easier to distance themselves from it because many of THEM haven't taken the time to understand it.

I have an uninsured relative who went to the emergency room with a swollen face. It turned out to be an infection from a piercing through his lip. It was a dangerous infection and a minor surgical procedure was required along with a two night stay and antibiotics. As an uninsured young man, he paid nothing. The hospital pays for these things from several directions. They "write off" losses for such as "charitable giving" to reduce tax liability which that takes care of a portion. This reduction in tax liability gets made up by others paying more in taxes, and/or deficits growing, in others words, there's no free lunch. They also charge insured people more for everything to offset some of the rest of their "loss". That's where eight dollar aspirins and many other inflated prices come from. Lastly, they cut their CEO's bonuses (NO I made that last one up just to see who's paying attention) "obamacare", on the other hand, will require my relative to buy his own PRIVATE insurance policy. This is how Obamacare shifts the burden of the uninsured from the insured and the taxpayers to the newly INSURED and the PRIVATE insurance companies.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. I don't believe that.
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 06:10 PM
Feb 2012

Since most of the package has not come into effect and very few Americans really understand what it is or will do, it is too soon to know what Americans think of it.

bhikkhu

(10,711 posts)
21. If you gave that same "most" a quick quiz on Obamacare -
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:01 PM
Feb 2012

I'm pretty sure you could demonstrate that they don't know the first thing about it.

TheKentuckian

(25,018 posts)
25. Many that do like it even less. One can be fond of a feature or even a few and
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 07:34 PM
Feb 2012

still be against the plan in general.

Are there a bunch of people who don't get that the underlying system is unchanged and think some scary new evil is going to unfold based on fear attacks. Sure, but that isn't all of the opposition by any stretch.

Don't be shocked if familarity breeds even greater contempt, we let the TeaPubliKlans pack their brainchild with all kinds of amendments with nary a vote.

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
34. They've never read the bill.
Sun Feb 26, 2012, 06:51 PM
Feb 2012

They are only listening to the people who are most against it: The right and the health insurance providers. It has nothing to do with the truth. The bill is actually really good for the American people. It just isn't good for health insurance companies who keep letting people die so they can buy their next vacation home in Bora Bora or something.

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