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xfundy

(5,105 posts)
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 02:54 AM Sep 2013

The real war is against us, regular Americans.

They are testing our limits, and have found little resistance.

We're mostly friendly, trusting, go along, get along. We believe in the promise of America, the American dream, the ability to be whatever, become whatever you want to be, thanks to the unlimited promise of America. Millions have achieved success, so we're assured we can, too. American success stories abound, if only we mirror them and achieve our success, all on our own, like our heroes, those we want to emulate in their success. Success is available for anyone, 'cuz America allows it to be so!

But the rules were changed, without notice to those of us who live outside the current "ruling class" without insider access to their methods.

Let's say we invented a better way to, I dunno, roast peanuts. We try to bring this to market, but some corp claims ownership of our idea. Well, you can't copyright an idea, so they steal it, brand it, sell it, and we are fucked out of our own idea, with the blessing of the copyright office.

How is this part of the American dream, if a corp can steal an idea and claim it as their own?

I have more thoughts on this and will post them later. Interested in thoughts in the meantime.



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The real war is against us, regular Americans. (Original Post) xfundy Sep 2013 OP
that actually happened hfojvt Sep 2013 #1
Most of us have had ideas that would sell xfundy Sep 2013 #8
Yeah 2naSalit Sep 2013 #2
+1! More of us recognize this every day. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #6
Well said! Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2013 #7
I agree completely. xfundy Sep 2013 #9
brilliant FirstLight Sep 2013 #3
I was just in a DU war w/ a dude that lost...... alittlelark Sep 2013 #4
Kicked and Recommended. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #5

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
1. that actually happened
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:18 AM
Sep 2013

to the women who invented icicle lights.

They had like $1 million in sales in their second year, until some big company started copying them. A court ruled that the design was not unique enough to be protected by patent.

Still, with a million in sales, they should have done pretty well.

Chances are very good though that most of us are gonna fail at this by - not coming up with an idea.

A couple examples from my own life, where I was close, and coulda, shoulda, woulda.

Free cell - I used to play that in college with actual cards. In theory, I could have written that program by making fairly slight modifications to the program for solitaire.

genealogy software - In 1986 I was writing programs in Dbase II - an early database program. I was also researching genealogy. I could have easily written a genealogy database program in Dbase II.

But in both cases, there I was - asleep at the switch.

But the other part is - I could have made the American Dream simply by staying with the job I had at the time. But instead I chose NOT to work for the military industrial complex. A choice, BTW, which has done nothing to slow down the war machine, merely cost me several hundred thousand dollars in lost wages, and any chance to ever get married or have a family.

Ooops.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
8. Most of us have had ideas that would sell
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:11 PM
Sep 2013

but we're convinced we could never pull it off, we're unworthy of that kind of success, etc. I had the idea for The Minority Report (film) in the mid-90s but didn't take myself seriously, though I talked lots about my idea. In California. Was I ripped off? Probably not.

Now, of course, that film is mirroring the present.

It's actually easy to get rich, if you're willing to lie, cheat, steal, treat others as subhuman, take food from childrens' mouths, murder, etc.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
2. Yeah
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:20 AM
Sep 2013

the rules were changed but it was long before we realized we were being told a line of BS. This is very much like what was happening a century ago and it has come around full circle. The robber barons were forced to give us some of our rights but they have been taking them back ever since and telling us something else and we bought it. We were warned but nobody believed the warnings because... TV and keeping-up-with-the-Joneses and progress and weekends and iphones. And now we are standing here in the bread lines again and the militant "peace-keepers" are brutalizing us and listening in on everything we do to use it against us when we decide to rise up against them, they won't be letting that happen again if they can help it.

So every little thing they (the 1%) can do to take away anything that we want or expect as is our right to expect or make it impossible to do... like travel due to high costs or get education because ignorant people are easier to control or just send us into battle to impoverish us and take away our health and that of their enemies is the most expedient way to accomplish the austerity agenda that will give them control over everyone everywhere while they force us to serve them and their interests. It's why there is such a big fear of socialism in even the slightest situations because it generates a kind of equality the powerful can't tolerate which is why they manage to corrupt it so judiciously when it (socialism) makes a showing among the populace. If the powerful can't look down upon the masses, life isn't worth it for them, apparently.

I am sure I'll get blowback for this but I think that we should find a way to nationalize our natural resources, healthcare and commodities before we let the market decide that we have no right to water or air without fees paid to the 1%. The market is already taking the lead in creating and declaring wars that we are fighting and paying for to protect the interests of the wealthiest and that's really screwed up.



There is no direct positive correlation between capitalism and humanitarianism.

alittlelark

(18,888 posts)
4. I was just in a DU war w/ a dude that lost......
Sat Sep 7, 2013, 03:38 AM
Sep 2013

... but in actuality I lost. I wasn't paying attention to what is REALLY GOING ON.

I lost sight of the big picture.

Gonna try not to do that again.


Thank you for this.

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