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Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:06 PM Feb 2012

Gutless: Lawmakers say Ohio shooting won't change nation's gun rights

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) downplayed new gun control legislation in light of Monday's high-school shooting in his native Ohio.

Asked if the shooting would prompt some kind of legislative crackdown on gun rights, Boehner nixed the idea.
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A number of Democrats introduced gun-reform legislation last year in the wake of the Giffords shooting, but it was never considered in the GOP-led House.

Supporters of gun reform pointed to Monday's tragedy as evidence that Congress needs to intervene to make it tougher for U.S. youths to get their hands on firearms.

"When parents cannot send their teenagers to school with any assurance they will return home safely at the end of the day, we have a serious gun violence problem that our political leaders must address," Dennis Henigan, acting president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said Monday in a statement. "It is simply too easy for young people to get their hands on deadly weaponry. It is long past time for us to address this issue as an urgent national concern."

The shooting took place roughly 25 miles east of Cleveland, an area represented by Rep. Steven LaTourette (R-Ohio), a close Boehner ally. LaTourette took to the House floor Tuesday afternoon to lead the chamber in a moment of silence. He condemned a tragedy he said has become "all too frequent" in the United States, but did not address the issue of gun reform.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/news/213107-boehner-ohio-shooting-wont-change-gun-rights

Life is tough, kids, learn to live with fear. And good luck

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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
1. Back in the day didn't kids take guns to school for rifle club/etc?
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:08 PM
Feb 2012

Seems like the problem is not guns, but perhaps something more difficult that you can't simply try to legislate away.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
6. Precisely. Instead, some people want to basically just make it so we don't SEE the problem anymore.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:14 PM
Feb 2012

Instead of, say, dealing with why kids become alienated, why they're hurt, or how to help them. As long as they go and kill themselves quietly, or drug away their pain, then it's okay with the people like the Republican owned and operated Brady Campaign. Some people would rather make political hay off the one in a million chance that a kid steals a gun and shoots someone at school, rather than all the thousands and thousands of other kids who are suffering quietly.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
8. That's some sick shit, Wraith
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:18 PM
Feb 2012

"As long as they go and kill themselves quietly, or drug away their pain, then it's okay with the people like the Republican owned and operated Brady Campaign. "

al bupp

(2,170 posts)
11. Perhaps, though while helping those teens who are hurting...
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:24 PM
Feb 2012

due to drugs, mental health issues or simply the considerable pains of adolescence, it might make our public spaces safer if there were fewer guns, particularly of the semi-automatic variety, available to these people act out there derangement with, don't you think? These sorts of incidents do seem to be signiificantly less common in countries w/ serious gun control.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
7. Moms and Dads had to huddle at Metro General and decide when to cut off life support
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:15 PM
Feb 2012

What a horrible scene. Everybody on the floor must have been in despair. I had the same conference when one of my family died much too young.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
9. Cheap access to mental health services and addiction services..
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:18 PM
Feb 2012

And yes, I and others brought our shotguns on the school bus for trap shooting in physical education. Everyone participated either with their own gun, a friends gun, or a school owned and armored gun. Everyone had to pass a hunters and shooters safety written exam prior to shooting, and when you passed the unit you received your state hunters safety certificate...I still use the cert I earned 30 years ago to get a hunting license.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. Here is a little secret
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:09 PM
Feb 2012

the last time pols were this tone deaf laws did change and it was "sudden."

So have heart.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
3. Nonsense
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:11 PM
Feb 2012

There isn't enough support for gun control in the Democratic party to pass anything. There is a shrinking minority of elected Dems who are supportive of any new gun legislation, except liberalization. Gun control is dead, as it should be.

 

Zanzoobar

(894 posts)
4. Yes, quite.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:13 PM
Feb 2012

"Life is tough, kids, learn to live with fear. And good luck".

It's remarkable how much life always boils down to fear.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
10. OFFS
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:23 PM
Feb 2012
but did not address the issue of gun reform.


How about mental fucking health reform already dumb ass..

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
12. Guns are not the problem
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:25 PM
Feb 2012

Politicians are the problem
Politicians set the personality of a country
The problems of this country today are squarely on the shoulders of politicians
They will say no but that is where the problems start
It is time for them to own up to this fact

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
13. What kind of "crackdown on gun rights" would you support?
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:30 PM
Feb 2012

There are already thousands of laws on the books; that is not the problem. You can't legislate responsibility; but you can enforce trhe laws we currently have.

BTW, gun control would not do any better in the Senate. Republicans AND Democrats know it is a losing issue. That lesson was learned in 1994 and neither side wants to be on the losing side of a repeat.

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