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They've been the Certified Batshit Loon Party for quite a while. 
morans will never believe otherwise.
It's Obama's fault and that's all they'll ever believe.
This is a serious problem 
he can do to them, for the way they have treated President Obama. He
has worked with them, and given in so many times, much to the dismay
of his own constituent's and party... Hang strong President Obama... we love the way
you are handling this!! <3
Checking in!
garden you have going! didn't think I did at the time, but your sig line reminded me
Was fun -great hobby.... keeps me out of trouble!
... all of them.
A partial shutdown suits the deficit hawks in both parties just fine, since it's been adjusted so it doesn't actually impact payrolls in the military and Intelligence agencies. That's precisely why I don't believe the BS about 40 Teahadis being responsible for the "crisis."
This is simply austerity and cuts to social programs without anyone having to actually vote for it, and that's making the Center-Right smile.
Of course, they won't allow actual default on the debt - the "threat" of that is just another psychological device to make this seem like a real crisis. It's not - it's simply austerity by default.
If 40 members of the House could force this sort of thing, the House Progressive Caucus would be running the frickin' government. 
The rest is pure drama for the masses.
The Sequester and selective shutdown are quite rational, and this is the means the American political system has arrived at to deliver it Austerity is the point - the means are the ends, wrapped in a face saving theater of the absurd cast with its designated villains and heroes, depending upon which side of the audience one is sitting in.
A week ago, I likened it to Kabuki Theater, "Selective Shutdown Over for Pentagon. The Light just got turned on the Kabuki Theater Stage", http://election.democraticunderground.com/10023791304
But, the American version is more akin to something cruder, and seemingly mindless. Mexican Masked Wrestling:
Austerity in action is driven by the same global bankers who have their own designated Bad Guys, the global hedge funds that attack currencies and interest rates of states that resist austerity. Tag-team Mexican wrestling. The loud shouting and elaborate maneuvers of legislative bodies and mainstream political parties are largely a choreographed show intended to distract and mobilize the seated audience of rubes.
That it's just being shone on by a really abnormally bright light right now.
Either way, the answer is 'yes'.
