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JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:14 AM Oct 2013

Columbus and Galileo (belated 10/12 post)

What myths we make! Columbus didn't get it right that the world was round. This was well-known in Europe at the time. He got it wrong, claiming the Earth was much smaller than the roughly correct measurements of its circumference dating back to Ptolemaic Egypt. He sold the Spanish monarchs on his small-earth theory, making them think it was easier than anyone believed to reach China by going westward from Spain, and so got his expedition financed.

Then he ran into the unexpected continents in between Europe and Asia. This was lucky for him, because otherwise his crews would have starved for food before making even half the way to China - that is, if a mutiny didn't throw him overboard first. And so Colon (the name he actually used) became the first conquistador in the Americas, not a hero but a mass murderer and a tyrant even by his own accounts. Howard Zinn tells this tragic story powerfully in the first chapter of A People's History of the United States.

It's sad that Italian-Americans have adopted Columbus as the figure for their well-earned ethnic holiday in the United States. Once established, this is almost impossible to change. What figure from Italy has anything like the name recognition required to replace Columbus for the Italian holiday? It would have to be someone with the world-historical stature of a Newton, or a Galileo. The mind credited with originating the modern scientific method would be a genuinely worthy and universal hero to celebrate, so it's too bad Galileo was French, right?

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Columbus and Galileo (belated 10/12 post) (Original Post) JackRiddler Oct 2013 OP
Alessandro Volta? Enrico Fermi? DetlefK Oct 2013 #1
Alternative proposal JackRiddler Oct 2013 #2
I'd say "DaVinci Day" if we can forego any direct Italy-Americas connection. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2013 #3
I don't see a bigger figure than Galileo. JackRiddler Oct 2013 #4
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
2. Alternative proposal
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:52 AM
Oct 2013

See this great cartoon summary of the above, calling for a "Bartolomeo Day." I'll still go with Galileo as he's got the same name recognition globally (and almost in the U.S.) as Columbus, and more importantly, it would be the first U.S. holiday to celebrate science rather than national icons or religion.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/columbus_day



Gidney N Cloyd

(19,833 posts)
3. I'd say "DaVinci Day" if we can forego any direct Italy-Americas connection.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 12:36 PM
Oct 2013

And I don't recall St Patrick coming here so there's some precedent for that.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
4. I don't see a bigger figure than Galileo.
Mon Oct 14, 2013, 02:43 PM
Oct 2013

Must be in the top 10 all-time people of significance in known history. Science. Plus the fight against the church (even if they won for that round).

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