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The bastards got income verification in (Original Post) Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 OP
It was there already. Just tightened the language up a bit. Kber Oct 2013 #1
To be fair MnAttorney Oct 2013 #2
I believe it went from a sampling of verification to 100% verification. Similar to what many lenders okaawhatever Oct 2013 #19
Basically the RepubliBaggers (R) are making BIG GOVERNMENT BIGGER Berlum Oct 2013 #24
I can't believe someone on DU would post crap from the Washington Times. FSogol Oct 2013 #3
I dunno, being that was in the ACA already , ... oldhippie Oct 2013 #4
don't see anything wrong with that ... srican69 Oct 2013 #5
Exactly Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #6
This is great! More IRS jobs, increasing spending & the size of gov't. Thanks, republicans! displacedtexan Oct 2013 #13
You're assuming they will hire additional workers to meet the add'l requirements. I think they're okaawhatever Oct 2013 #22
"They" who? displacedtexan Oct 2013 #27
The Republicans who supported increasing the income verification from sampling to 100%. nt okaawhatever Oct 2013 #29
Moonie Times??? SamYeager Oct 2013 #7
Jesus christ people Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #8
Income verification was already in the ACA. Republicans got NOTHING, as Michael Corleone bluestate10 Oct 2013 #9
On CBS News the other night, they said that Obama had been planning to LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #10
"To say that it is miniscule is probably giving it too much credit" pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #11
Oh noeesssss!!11 Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #12
I already submit tax returns for college grants and pay stubs for food stamps. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #14
Bwahahahaha!!! JoePhilly Oct 2013 #15
Jay Carney on the income verification - "we're fine with it". n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #16
I had to provide income verification to the VA Kaleva Oct 2013 #17
Fig leaf for the GOP? AlinPA Oct 2013 #18
You could well be correct Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #21
It was already in the law, just not implemented yet. WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #20
For what? Government job? Food Stamps? Assistance to women with dependant children? question everything Oct 2013 #23
Insurance subsidies under the ACA. n/t Chan790 Oct 2013 #25
The Republicans complained about the IRS getting between you and doc03 Oct 2013 #26
I figure they think it will scare some folks away from seeking subsidies Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #28
sounds like they really got nothing djnicadress Oct 2013 #30
What they apparently got was to kick the debt limit issue a few months down the road, PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #31

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
19. I believe it went from a sampling of verification to 100% verification. Similar to what many lenders
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:36 PM
Oct 2013

do. They will audit say 20% of the files for income verification. If there is a high number of fraud/omission/error they will review the policy or make adjustments. Now it's 100% verification, forcing the need for more IRS staff to review, meaning bigger government. i wonder if they are trying to clog up the system to get people frustrated.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
24. Basically the RepubliBaggers (R) are making BIG GOVERNMENT BIGGER
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:40 PM
Oct 2013

Thanks a diaper load, RepubliBaggers. We can always DEPEND on you for hypocrisy.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
5. don't see anything wrong with that ...
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:01 PM
Oct 2013

its not anything like requiring voter ID where the intent is to deny... ...or ...wait a minute ... nevermind ...sorry

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
6. Exactly
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:02 PM
Oct 2013

If you know the IRS is going to be scrutinizing your taxes are you more or less likely to attempt to use an exchange subsidy? Was the goal of the ACA to get people covered or not?

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
13. This is great! More IRS jobs, increasing spending & the size of gov't. Thanks, republicans!
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:11 PM
Oct 2013

Actually, the IRS was going to verify everyone's true income in April, anyway. This just speeds up the process and keeps freepers from trying to get a better deal than their shitty employer-based coverage by lying about their incomes.

Plus, republicans are now voting to increase the size of government! I love it! You can't make this shit up!

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
22. You're assuming they will hire additional workers to meet the add'l requirements. I think they're
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:38 PM
Oct 2013

just trying to clog the system and/or make the experience worse for the consumer. Many who are eligible to receive other aide are unable to provide the paperwork necessary.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
27. "They" who?
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:44 PM
Oct 2013

There's a slight problem with your logic: if you're already eligible for other aid, your paperwork is already available.

Clogging the system? That just makes the program seem more popular. No one is going to believe wingnuts complaining about the ACA for any reason now. To quote Stephen King: "They're all going to laugh at you."

 

SamYeager

(309 posts)
7. Moonie Times???
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:04 PM
Oct 2013

Do you have a better source. I saw income verification was in but it doesn't really change anything and won't hold up signing up like the last income verification proposal would.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
8. Jesus christ people
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:06 PM
Oct 2013

Forest...trees...

A friend sent me the link. Are some of you really worried if it's Mother Jones or the WA Times tells you something accurate?

LuvNewcastle

(16,843 posts)
10. On CBS News the other night, they said that Obama had been planning to
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:07 PM
Oct 2013

have some kind of income verification added to the ACA anyway, so he would be okay with it being added to the agreement that reopened the government. I don't know how the ACA provided for income verification, but it seems that at least some people thought it wasn't enough. Hopefully it won't be too much of a burden for those signing up for insurance.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
12. Oh noeesssss!!11
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:09 PM
Oct 2013

Instead of repeal, defunding, or delaying....they got income verification wording. Despite the fact that income verification is already taking place.

The Horror! The Horror!

 
14. I already submit tax returns for college grants and pay stubs for food stamps.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:13 PM
Oct 2013

What is a little bit more paperwork?

We should be spinning this as:

The GOP shut down the government for 3 weeks and almost defaulted us to make poor Americans fill out more paperwork to get health insurance.

Not as some major concession.

 

Bunnahabhain

(857 posts)
21. You could well be correct
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:37 PM
Oct 2013

I was never for the income verification though and was hoping it would get slashed.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
20. It was already in the law, just not implemented yet.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:37 PM
Oct 2013

Basically, the one demand they won on was for Obama to start that car five minutes early.

question everything

(47,462 posts)
23. For what? Government job? Food Stamps? Assistance to women with dependant children?
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:39 PM
Oct 2013

I really do not feel like reading the whole story.

Thanks.

doc03

(35,323 posts)
26. The Republicans complained about the IRS getting between you and
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:43 PM
Oct 2013

your doctor, so they give them more power to get between you and your doctor.

 

djnicadress

(39 posts)
30. sounds like they really got nothing
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 04:37 PM
Oct 2013

Speaking on background, the official said the House bill would have put "at risk" the basic structure of the law's tax credits and subsidies for individuals "by making them contingent on an IG prospectively certifying that the system was sound. This would have caused unnecessary uncertainty" and delayed health care coverage for millions. In contrast, the version agreed to in the Senate would have the Health and Human Services secretary certify to Congress that eligibility is being verified. The official said that the compromise has the Inspector General "perform a retrospective analysis, which is consistent with the traditional role of an IG, and will not impede or affect the provision of benefits to individuals through the ACA."


http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/white-house-debt-ceiling-deal-s-obamacare-change-not-ransom-20131016?mrefid=HomepageRiver

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
31. What they apparently got was to kick the debt limit issue a few months down the road,
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 04:43 PM
Oct 2013

something the President likely wouldn't have agreed to earlier.

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