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bigtree

(85,974 posts)
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:07 AM Oct 2013

The republican party dividing into two factions isn't as revolutionary as some suppose

Sure, there's a group of republican legislators giving props to the 'tea party' and doing everything they can to further their anarchist agenda. They've come to Washington with a handful of crazy and foolish schemes to put a stick in the spokes of our national legislative process.

Then there's the veteran republican crowd who've already filled almost every worthwhile space left in the legislative wheel with their own sticks forced into the spokes of our democratic system of government.

The only thing that had distinguished the tea republicans from the veterans was the anarchist thing; they were more willing and determined to throw the entire process in the toilet, just for whatever value they saw in just shutting it all down.

Now there is really no significant division at all in the republican ranks. Both sides of their party have shown America their willingness to spend incalculable sums of our money just to rattle our cages; to have us give full attention and fealty to their authority over our money; their lording over our hard-earned tributes to the government they oversee.

Today's republican party is little more than a souped-up version of it's pre-tea, obstructive, self-serving self. Boehner and the rest of the republican leadership welcomed these anarchists into their fold with open arms and agreed to personally drive their party (and the country) to the edge of our economic cliff.

If Boehner hadn't ultimately relied on a unified Democratic membership to pull us back from the brink of economic catastrophe, he'd go down as just another anarchist. Funny that there's even a question in the media today about how the republican leader fared in the end. He's an obvious casualty now of his own diminution of government.

Boehner no longer has a deliverable republican majority for doing anything more than countering or obstructing what our responsive president has already delivered on. Now that his anarchist teaps have forced him to play the most devastating card in his hand - and was forced to fold - he's nothing but a tool of the malcontents whose thuggery gives his republican majority its only relevance.

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The republican party dividing into two factions isn't as revolutionary as some suppose (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2013 OP
A lot of what you say is correct, but ProSense Oct 2013 #1
a conservative revolt bigtree Oct 2013 #2
They finally hit fringe-overload SoCalDem Oct 2013 #3

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
1. A lot of what you say is correct, but
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:21 AM
Oct 2013
Sure, there's a group of republican legislators giving props to the 'tea party' and doing everything they can to further their anarchist agenda. They've come to Washington with a handful of crazy and foolish schemes to put a stick in the spokes of our national legislative process.

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Boehner no longer has a deliverable republican majority for doing anything more than countering or obstructing what our responsive president has already delivered on. Now that his anarchist teaps have forced him to play the most devastating card in his hand - and was forced to fold - he's nothing but a tool of the malcontents whose thuggery gives his republican majority its only relevance.

...they're a real problem for the Republican Party. You saw that in Lugar losing his seat. Murkowski fighting for hers, and the "I'm not a witch" debacle. They created the monster.

They've allowed a lunatic fringe to set the agenda. The problem is that this lunatic fringe doesn't realize it's a fringe (Cruz is a perfect example). They can't see how crazy their actions look to sane people, which is why its bizarre that Boehner let them get out of hand. McConnell is now fighting for his seat after indulging them.

GOP spin: Re-elect McConnell because he eventually figured out the Republican shutdown needed to end
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/17/1248319/-GOP-spin-Re-elect-McConnell-because-he-eventually-figured-out-the-Republican-shutdown-needed-to-end

Senate Conservatives Fund Endorses McConnell Primary Challenger
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/senate-conservatives-fund-endorses-mcconnell-primary-challenger

Ted Cruz Doesn't Need "99 New Friends In The US Senate"...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023878006

Republican hostage taking damages Republican Party
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023878191

bigtree

(85,974 posts)
2. a conservative revolt
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:36 AM
Oct 2013

Last edited Tue Apr 29, 2014, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)

. . . highlighting the republican party's divisive, obstructive side.

I think this is a good opportunity for Democratic challengers promising to rid Washington of these reckless demagogues.


The Hill ?@thehill 10m 2014
Conservative lawmaker predicts Boehner won't run for Speaker again http://trib.al/MpS6qEe

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
3. They finally hit fringe-overload
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 11:53 AM
Oct 2013

They added the fetus-worshipers
They added the routine bible-thumper/snake-handlers
They added the run-of-the-mill racists
They added the xenophobes

and for a while these folks found some common ground and co-existed with the Richie Rich overlords of the party, but the tea party folks are all of the above and none of the above. They are meaner, dumber, and more daring than the others in the tent and they are bold and in-your-face. They have their own financing, and they are ready to blow the place up if they think they can be the ones left standing.

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