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Walk away

(9,494 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:05 PM Oct 2013

A Yale professor's study show Teabaggers have slightly more knowledge of science....

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than other groups. Proving once and for all that the teaparty are MORONS.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/tea-party-science-98488.html

A bunch of privileged, white, middle class men who are lucky enough to get a good education but too stupid to believe what they learned.

It just goes to show...you can give a Jack Ass an education but you cannot make him think.
http://publicreligion.org/research/2011/09/climate-change-evolution-2012/#.UmQ-o_y3sYE.email
The chart below clearly shows that the Tea party members do not believe in science fact.

<a href=".html" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt=" photo PRRI-EvolutionClimatechange_zps908a0846.jpg"/></a>

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A Yale professor's study show Teabaggers have slightly more knowledge of science.... (Original Post) Walk away Oct 2013 OP
Did you mean less? And is the link right? rainy Oct 2013 #1
I added some links... Walk away Oct 2013 #3
I suspect that quite a few participating in the survey answered opposite of brewens Oct 2013 #11
At first, I thought WTF when I looked at that chart. Curmudgeoness Oct 2013 #2
So what is your doctorate in? whistler162 Oct 2013 #4
I don't have a doctorate. Did I imply that I did? Walk away Oct 2013 #6
The chart says exactly the opposite of the OP. Coyotl Oct 2013 #5
I'm sorry it's hard to understand. That is my point. Walk away Oct 2013 #9
The 3R's. They know the answers expected in a test. Memorization. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #12
Yep. And that is a major part of the reason... YoungDemCA Oct 2013 #14
But there is a certain intelligence to knowing both sides of the argument. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #15
can't expose the "common" folk to "dangerous ideas" like critical thinking, etc. BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #16
Haha, thanks! YoungDemCA Oct 2013 #18
One study does not prove anything. 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #7
"Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #20
I do know older people who got advanced degrees a long time ago treestar Oct 2013 #8
Now that makes perfect sense. Turbineguy Oct 2013 #10
What a biased load of crap seattle15 Oct 2013 #13
The only reason Tea Party supporters might score above average is because of SES YoungDemCA Oct 2013 #17
That's a very interesting blog (Prof. Kahan seems to object to calling it a "study"), petronius Oct 2013 #19
...than a gerbil....on acid. nt Wounded Bear Oct 2013 #21

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
3. I added some links...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:42 PM
Oct 2013

This study is all over the internet. Teabaggers are crowing. I thought I would address it with another study that points out that baggers may have studied science and remember what they were taught but...they stupidly don't believe science!

brewens

(13,573 posts)
11. I suspect that quite a few participating in the survey answered opposite of
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:27 PM
Oct 2013

what they know to be fact. They know about evolution but will deny it if they think there is some advantage to that. Quite a few in Congress posing to be religious do.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
2. At first, I thought WTF when I looked at that chart.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:24 PM
Oct 2013

I cannot believe that so few people believe that living things evolve over time. Incredible. But then I look at who did this survey, and I figure that people who are apathetic or opposed to religion would probably choose not to participate in this poll.

I want to ask those people who do not believe in evolution if they believe that there are superbugs. Do we have a problem with drug-resistant bacteria? I use this all the time, and get a lot of stuttering, or that bacteria are not the same as animals. No, they aren't...they go through a life cycle in 20 minutes or so, and we can watch generations in the course of one day instead of years.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
6. I don't have a doctorate. Did I imply that I did?
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:47 PM
Oct 2013

Maybe you agree with the good doctor from Yale and teabaggers are smarter than the rest of us.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
9. I'm sorry it's hard to understand. That is my point.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:54 PM
Oct 2013

Teabaggers are calling themselves scientifically intelligent because of the study.

The chart is another study showing they don't believe in science.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
12. The 3R's. They know the answers expected in a test. Memorization.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:32 PM
Oct 2013

Still, Reading, wRiting and aRithmatic don't teach you HOW to think in their world. You are given the right and wrong answers and memorize who wants which answer to move you ahead.

Others whose education is broader based and more challenging learn HOW to think critically and decide for yourself based on evidence at hand and tools available to measure.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
14. Yep. And that is a major part of the reason...
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:36 PM
Oct 2013

...why so many right-wingers are suspicious of education beyond the "three Rs"...can't expose the "common" folk to "dangerous ideas" like critical thinking, etc.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
15. But there is a certain intelligence to knowing both sides of the argument.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:39 PM
Oct 2013

Even if it's only superficial and for the reason of tearing it apart.


BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
16. can't expose the "common" folk to "dangerous ideas" like critical thinking, etc.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:40 PM
Oct 2013

Well then somebody has done a good job exposing you to dangerous ideas
If you're an example of a young dem, there is hope, judging by your OPs!



4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
7. One study does not prove anything.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:49 PM
Oct 2013

Anymore than this one.
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
Even though I enjoy posting it to get knee jerk reactions and even some so outraged they got banned for their outbursts, yes my guilty pleasure. Yet still only one study doesn't mean that much.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
20. "Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 12:51 AM
Oct 2013

might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world."

Might? Lol.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. I do know older people who got advanced degrees a long time ago
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 08:51 PM
Oct 2013

In science. But after years of retirement, they've forgotten a lot about it. And the big danger is they think they know everything about everything else.

I was talking to my uncle and father one evening, and they were arguing that some doctor didn't do the right thing in the uncle's case. I said the doctor has a degree in medicine and experience. They actually insisted that they know their own body and therefore know more than the doctor and should tell him what to do! And they weren't lacking in education. It was just a long time ago. And sciences you can possibly understand without having any wisdom.

Turbineguy

(37,317 posts)
10. Now that makes perfect sense.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 09:24 PM
Oct 2013

in the upside-down world of the conservative, the lowest score is the best result. If you know something that their belief system denies, then you are a moron.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
17. The only reason Tea Party supporters might score above average is because of SES
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:47 PM
Oct 2013

Tea Partiers, after all, are-on average-wealthier and have higher educational attainment (note: this does NOT necessarily mean they are better educated) than the general population.

Keep in mind, though, the "general population" includes a lot of lower-status and less well-off groups that vote Democratic (the very poor, many racial and ethnic minorities) or don't vote at all. The Tea Party doesn't have such "undesirables".

The take-away is that a group that largely consists of middle-class white Americans is going to skew a bit higher on basic science scores than the general population. When you get beyond the "average" or "somewhat above average" to the "significantly above average", however, liberals-who correlate highly with high or very high educational attainment, ie post-graduate degrees-significantly outnumber conservatives.

A solid majority of voters with post-graduate degrees voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
19. That's a very interesting blog (Prof. Kahan seems to object to calling it a "study"),
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 10:57 PM
Oct 2013

but one bit that struck me as particularly intriguing - and a valuable warning - was this:

But because they are like everyone else, these high "science comprehending" tea-party members will be more likely to display politically biased misinterpretations of empirical data than people who display a lower "science comprehension" apptitude. The greater their capacity to engage in analytical thinking, the more systematically they will use that capacity to ferret out evidence congenial to their predispositions and block out and rationalize away everything else.

Moreover, because others who share their values very sensibly rely on them when trying to keep up with what’s known to science, these high science-comprehending tea-party members -- just like high science-comprehending "Democrats" and "Republicans'" and "libertarians" and "socialists" et al.-- will play a principal role in transmitting the reason-effacing pathogens that pervade our polluted science communication environment.

http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2013/10/19/congratulations-tea-party-members-you-are-just-as-vulnerable.html
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