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BluegrassStateBlues

(881 posts)
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:14 PM Oct 2013

Feinstein: "Totally Opposed" to spying on world leaders, wants "total review" of intel programs

Senate Intelligence Chair Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) said Monday that she is "totally opposed" to surveilling allied leaders, amid reports that the National Security Agency has been monitoring German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other U.S. allies.

The revelations require a "total review of intelligence programs," Feinstein said in a statement.

“Unlike NSA’s collection of phone records under a court order, it is clear to me that certain surveillance activities have been in effect for more than a decade and that the Senate Intelligence Committee was not satisfactorily informed," she said. "Therefore our oversight needs to be strengthened and increased."

Feinstein added that it was "a big problem" that President Obama was not aware of the surveillance. The administration has assured Feinstein that the surveillance would not continue, she said.

“Unless the United States is engaged in hostilities against a country or there is an emergency need for this type of surveillance, I do not believe the United States should be collecting phone calls or emails of friendly presidents and prime ministers. The president should be required to approve any collection of this sort."


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/feinstein-i-am-totally-opposed-to-surveilling-foreign-leaders
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Feinstein: "Totally Opposed" to spying on world leaders, wants "total review" of intel programs (Original Post) BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 OP
When you've lost Feinstein in Intel, Intel has been caught with their pants down n/t SamYeager Oct 2013 #1
LOL, pretty much. Heads will roll now. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #2
Yep, that's the other shoe. nt bemildred Oct 2013 #5
Feinstein....wow, just wow! nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #3
Perhaps it finally occurred to her TDale313 Oct 2013 #4
You mean like Russ Tice alleged a few years ago? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #6
One would think after the NSA's phone tapping of Senators Frank Church and Howard Baker Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #22
Yeah, I have the sneaking suspicion... TDale313 Oct 2013 #23
They won't get full disclosure unless Poppy Bush gives the go ahead. nt DURHAM D Oct 2013 #7
If her test for spying depends upon whether the US is engaged in hostilities, why have NSA funds AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #8
I agree senator, no more Kabuki theater! Rex Oct 2013 #9
Holy crap, they managed to piss off DiFi! nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #10
Not a smart move! Rex Oct 2013 #17
It is not OK to spy on the rich and powerful. The rest of us, who cares! Mass Oct 2013 #11
but she LOVES spying on the other 99%.... mike_c Oct 2013 #12
This is BFEE all the way Hekate Oct 2013 #13
She's on the Intel Committee, is she saying they had no clue what the NSA was up to? sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #14
If not for ONE improv by a Congress critter, we would never know any of this! Rex Oct 2013 #18
Good point, 'the NSA was monitoring Congress instead of the other way around'. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #19
I think Congress got caught sleeping at the wheel. Rex Oct 2013 #20
Grayson called them out Oilwellian Oct 2013 #24
My first thought fredamae Oct 2013 #15
Isn't that special. Spy on the peons Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #16
Diane Frankenstein is not a friend of the 99%. She is a Democrat but doesnt give a crap rhett o rick Oct 2013 #21
+1000! n/t markpkessinger Oct 2013 #25
+2000 woo me with science Oct 2013 #26
The Hen Guarding the Fox Hole. kentuck Oct 2013 #27
I don't buy it. Thom Hartman has been speaking about her writing a bill with an Orwellian title GoneFishin Oct 2013 #28

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
4. Perhaps it finally occurred to her
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:24 PM
Oct 2013

That the NSA was likely spying on veryimportantpeople like, oh I don't know, Senators and Congresscritters and their spouses and not just us peons?

Uncle Joe

(58,298 posts)
22. One would think after the NSA's phone tapping of Senators Frank Church and Howard Baker
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:48 PM
Oct 2013

in the late 60s and early 70s they would have known this.

There could no national security reason for doing this but for political black mail purposes.

This same will take place with the meta data collection of us peons.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
23. Yeah, I have the sneaking suspicion...
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:57 PM
Oct 2013

That very little of this is about keeping us safe. It's about political power and it's about a national security apparatus that's making some people a hell of a lot of money.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
8. If her test for spying depends upon whether the US is engaged in hostilities, why have NSA funds
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 05:29 PM
Oct 2013

been authorized by her and her Senate Committee while knowing that the NSA would used such funds to spy upon us?

Does she and her fellow Senators on her Committee perceive that the United States is engaging in hostiliities towards us? Is this what justifies such expenditures?

Hekate

(90,564 posts)
13. This is BFEE all the way
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 06:04 PM
Oct 2013

as I said in another thread.

And yes, when DiFi wakes up, you've gone way too far. I believe the consolidated intelligence systems were set to run on autopilot (why Obama really didn't know -- his opinion and input were not deemed important, right?).

My other post. I'm really furious.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=633743

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
14. She's on the Intel Committee, is she saying they had no clue what the NSA was up to?
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 06:10 PM
Oct 2013

Did she talk to Clapper at all?

Ron Wyden was trying to warn them for several years. Why didn't she release him from the gag order they are all under? She never asked questions, just 'trusted' a Republican to do the right thing. Well he did do the 'Right' thing as could be expected.

Sounds more like it is the world wide repercussions she is trying to handle rather than the spying.

As for the 'allies' they were spying on, some of them deserve it for the way they treated truth tellers on behalf of the US. Now maybe they have learned that being puppets hoping for 'special relationships' with a Major Super Power wasn't such a good idea after all.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. If not for ONE improv by a Congress critter, we would never know any of this!
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 06:25 PM
Oct 2013

THAT should be what worries voters...that the NSA was monitoring Congress and not the other way around!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. Good point, 'the NSA was monitoring Congress instead of the other way around'.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 06:30 PM
Oct 2013

If that turns out to be true, that is a serious problem.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. I think Congress got caught sleeping at the wheel.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 06:32 PM
Oct 2013

If you give no oversight, then expect not to be informed about anything of real importance imo. We de-regulate the markets and D.C. and THIS is what we end up with. Kabuki theater in Congress.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
24. Grayson called them out
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:15 PM
Oct 2013

Congressional oversight of the NSA is a joke. I should know, I'm in Congress.

I've learned far more about government spying on citizens from the media than I have from official intelligence briefings.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/25/nsa-no-congress-oversight

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
15. My first thought
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 06:17 PM
Oct 2013

was this so epitomizes the depth of own their intentional ignorance...She Supports having the peasants monitored.

Why do we allow them to continue holding Us to a much higher standard of law than they are willing to hold themselves?

This arrogance is rampant in both parties.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
21. Diane Frankenstein is not a friend of the 99%. She is a Democrat but doesnt give a crap
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:43 PM
Oct 2013

if the NSA is spying on us. When she finds out they are spying on the elite, she has a fit. She needs to be primaried.

kentuck

(111,053 posts)
27. The Hen Guarding the Fox Hole.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:32 PM
Oct 2013

She can't make up her mind. They have no idea what the NSA is doing. A total bunch of incompetents.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
28. I don't buy it. Thom Hartman has been speaking about her writing a bill with an Orwellian title
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:56 PM
Oct 2013

purporting to rein the spying in, while actually granting new spying powers in the fine print.

She has already shown who she is. Believe her.

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