Photos: Kennedy Hatred in 1960s Dallas Looks A Lot Like Obama Hatred Today

[JaneyVee]

From the right-wing fever swamps the day before JFKs assassination:









The rest: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115636/photos-anti-jfk-protesters

[peace13]

1. Yes.

Our knuckle dragger's have not evolved. That is disturbing to see because I have been thinking that time would take care of the racists in this country. It doesn't look promising.

[frazzled]

2. First Catholic president, first Black president

Same white suprematist-type groups saying the same things about both men.

There will be posters who respond that Clinton was also badly abused by opponents. But I don't recall these charges of betraying the Constitution, or being a socialist, or "anyone but." They went after Clinton over (false) financial issues (Whitewater) and personal issues (Lewinsky). They certainly tried to bring him down. But they didn't get this rabid attitude that he was somehow a foreign traitor to his country.

The Pope and Kenyan socialists were the supposed bosses to whom these not-quite-American presidents were beholden.

[Blue_Tires]

25. +1

[fredamae]

27. Plus Both are Democrats

which, in and of itself is plenty to fire them up...they relentlessly hounded Clinton also-

[onehandle]

3. As a native Southerner, I can assure you that the voting base of the South has not changed...

...one iota since the 1950s and 60s.

The old hate taught their children well.

[rbrnmw]

4. I think it stirred up nutjob Oswald who got a few lucky shots

I'm always worried about these nutjobs near any Democratic or Progressive pol they hate all of us now. They us for voting for President Obama twice. It is a badge I wear proudly I have lost a few friends and crazy relatives but I would vote for him or Bill Clinton again if I could!!! President Obama is my hero. Has he been perfect no he is just a man, but he is a man I admire far more than any of the loser regressives on the other side.

[avaistheone1]

14. Actually Oswald was not a nutjob.

That is the way MSM would have you think of him though.

[Egnever]

24. He shot the president

of course he was a nutjob. What a silly statement.

[Cha]

49. Yeah, that kinda

seals it in my book, too.

[duffyduff]

58. And in turn he was killed by a nutjob. That's why there is so much fascination with this case.

No novelist could come up with something like this.

[duffyduff]

57. Oh, please. Suicide attempts, grandiosity, wife beating, couldn't hold a job, had a one-man

organization. Yeah, he was perfection personified. He was a failure in everything he did, except in murdering the president of the United States and a police officer.

I suppose you think he was an innocent patsy.

[HooptieWagon]

5. Its the same people.

The RW extremism in Texas was largely the John Birch Society. And one of the founders of the JBS was Fred Koch, father of the Koch bros.

[dixiegrrrrl]

12. Good reminder, Hooptie.n/t

[rbrnmw]

37. A good book to read is called "Wrapped In The Flag" by Claire Conner

It is sick how the family tried to force The JBS down their childrens throat.

[HooptieWagon]

38. Gen Edwin Walker (who Oswald tried to kill)

was fired from his command for forcing the troops to read JBS pamphlets.
The JBS was a whole lot like todays teabaggers. A whole lot of racism and hatred of liberals (and those they deem liberals). Mistrust of the govt. They also wanted the US to get out of the UN (this was one of their central demands), and demanded Earl Warren be impeached.

[rbrnmw]

39. i had forgotten about Oswald"s attempt on Walker

why people don't think he killed President Kennedy is beyond me.

[eppur_se_muova]

45. Thanks for the book rec. Bookmarking. nt

[City Lights]

6. Some things never change. nt

[Nye Bevan]

7. Meh. There's always people who hate the president.

[JaneyVee]

10. Except that hate was merited. Look at the difference in reasons.

[Major Nikon]

23. It's always the same reason for Democrat presidents since Kennedy

They hated Carter and Bubba just as much. The only difference is back in the 60's you had more overt racists. Now it's not cool for them to advertise their racism because it instantly identifies them as a hillbilly shitbag, but when you listen to them talk for more than 10 seconds it's just as apparent.

[Cha]

50. And, the call of "treason" was merited, too.

it's not one of those.. "both sides do it" things.

[AZ Progressive]

18. That was merited. The Right Wing Crap is made up, spun, and agenda driven by extremists

Extremists that want to control and hurt everyone else just so that they can feel better about themselves.

The only thing extreme about Left Wing extremists is their want for fairness and egalitarian treatment and for people to care about others in general.

Right Wingers (who are nowadays extremists) care only about themselves and believe in hurting as many people as possible for their own gain.

[Rozlee]

19. Which of those charges aren't true?

Bush did war profiteering in starting a war of choice and by allowing Cheney and his buddies to land plum defense contracts. He withheld vital intelligence information that could have prevented the war and outright lied to get us into it. He delayed investigations into 9/11 and helped the bin Ladin family escape as well as harboring Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada, who had been complicit in blowing up a Cuban jet liner. But, the stuff the right-wing accuses Democrats of is so visceral, especially Obama. "Socialist." Seriously. Those people on Medicare going on about how unconstitutional socialized medicine is can make your head explode at the cognitive dissonance. And then they start on on how fascist he is. Fascist? Well, I can get behind that easier than socialism. In a fascist government, the corporations are protected, which is what we've been doing to them in the last several decades. But, when I point that corporations are making better profits than they have since the Gilded Age, making Obama socialism's biggest slacker, they go on to their next favorite topic---BENGHAZI!!!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

33. Guess that was prior to Iraq.

[a kennedy]

8. Wow....haven't come that far at all have we.....

Yikes.

[Octafish]

9. MANY in the Secret Service reflected those views.

Ask Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden, who reported overt racism by his fellow agents and outright hostility toward the "n------loving president," quoting fellow Secret Service agents on the JFK detail.



Abraham Bolden speaks at JFK Lancer.



The story of a man who told the truth:

After 45 Years, a Civil Rights Hero Waits for Justice

Thom Hartmann
June 12, 2009 11:52 AM

A great miscarriage of justice has kept most Americas from learning about a Civil Rights pioneer who worked with President John F. Kennedy. But there is finally a way for citizens to not only right that wrong, but bring closure to the most tragic chapter of American presidential history.

After an outstanding career in law enforcement, Abraham Bolden was appointed by JFK to be the first African American presidential Secret Service agent, where he served with distinction. He was part of the Secret Service effort that prevented JFK's assassination in Chicago, three weeks before Dallas. But Bolden was framed by the Mafia and arrested on the very day he went to Washington to tell the Warren Commission staff about the Chicago attempt against JFK.

Bolden was sentenced to six years in prison, despite glaring problems with his prosecution. His arrest resulted from accusations by two criminals Bolden had sent to prison. In Bolden's first trial, an apparently biased judge told the jury that Bolden was guilty, even before they began their deliberations. Though granted a new trial because of that, the same problematic judge was assigned to oversee Bolden's second trial, which resulted in his conviction. Later, the main witness against Bolden admitted committing perjury against him. A key member of the prosecution even took the fifth when asked about the perjury. Yet Bolden's appeals were denied, and he had to serve hard time in prison, and today is considered a convicted felon.

After the release of four million pages of JFK assassination files in the 1990s, it became clear that Bolden -- and the official secrecy surrounding the Chicago attempt against JFK -- were due to National Security concerns about Cuba, that were unknown to Bolden, the press, Congress, and the public not just in 1963, but for the next four decades.

SNIP...

Abraham Bolden paid a heavy price for trying to tell the truth about events involving the man he was sworn to protect -- JFK -- that became mired in National Security concerns. Bolden still lives in Chicago, and has never given up trying to clear his name.

Will Abraham Bolden live to finally see the justice so long denied to him?

CONTINUED...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thom-hartmann/after-45-years-a-civil-ri_b_213834.html

After the assassination, he went to Washington on his own dime and reported what he saw to the Warren Commission. For his trouble -- and despite an exemplary record as a Brinks detective, Illinois State Trooper, and Secret Service agent -- Bolden was framed by the government using a paid informant's admitted perjury and spent a long time in prison. The government also drugged him and put him into psychiatric hospitals. His real crime was telling the truth.

[heaven05]

22. His story and frameup, pure amerikkkaner justice

to someone trying to tell truth to amerikan lies.

[Octafish]

28. A Secret Service man reports his concerns to the Warren Commission...

...-- the same man hand-picked by President Kennedy to serve as the first African American on the White House Secret Service detail, a man with a spotless record with decades in law enforcement at the state and federal level -- and gets framed, jailed, and drugged into oblivion.

Even after years of brutal imprisonment, they did not break him. He credits his wife. Abraham Bolden never mentions his own integrity.

[red dog 1]

43. VERY interesting!

Thanks, Octafish, for posting this.

It reminds me of a current case where an innocent man was "sentenced.to prison...despite glaring problems with his prosecution"

http://www.donsiegelman.org/

[Octafish]

48. Connection: Siegelman judge is a big time war profiteer...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022073759

JFK didn't like war.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3158368

50 years of "money trumps peace."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4047666

[red dog 1]

54. "Book finally clears first black Secret Service agent"

"Abraham Bolden, who was arrested the day he went to Washington to tell Warren Commission staff about attempts to assassinate JFK in Tampa (four days before Dallas) and Chicago (two weeks earlier) as well as serious Secret Service laxity.
News articles at the time of Bolden's arrest in 1964 mentioned the laxity, but not the Chicago or Tampa attempts.
Small reports about the Chicago attempt and Bolden briefly surfaced in the press in 1967.
But the Tampa attempt on JFK -- which Bolden could have revealed to the Warren Commission if not for his arrest -- has not been detailed until this book."

http://www.ultimatesacrificebook.com/

[mfcorey1]

11. Wow! And we think that hatred that spews out of Texas and other places has diminshed. I pray for

President Obama every day because i feel there are a lot of nutbags who would not hesitate to do him harm. Sometimes I think we are no better than the third world countries we like to police. Who is policing us?

[rbrnmw]

40. it's Scary I pray for him and all Democratic and Progressive Politicians

there are so many sickos with guns these days.

[JEFF9K]

13. Conservative haters have so much more power today ...

... with their talk-radio monopoly, Fox News, etc.

[fadedrose]

15. Your OP is the main reason

I never objected to all the spying done by all the agencies.

There's probably more hatred for this President than Kennedy.

[AZ Progressive]

17. Same Shit, Different Generation

Things don't change, especially among Southerners and other Right Wingers.

[Oilwellian]

20. I was a young girl in small town Texas...

when Kennedy was killed. My grandmother lived nearby and had Kennedy's picture on her living room wall. She and my grandfather were devastated by his assassination.

[abelenkpe]

21. You know what's sad?

I remember my mom telling me when I was little about the lunatics who hated JFK and how it made her sick to her stomach. How sad she was when he was murdered. How sickened she was by those who cheered (She was living in Memphis at the time) at the deaths of JFK, MLK, jr and RFK. Today she is a full on birther/teaparty nut. Y'know what turned my mother, a former democrat, a sweet hippy artist into an ugly trolling bagger? FOX news.

Seriously.

We have got to break up big media conglomerates. Especially FOX.

[rbrnmw]

46. and about half my former Catholic Democratic Family and Friends

It started with that gasbag Limbaugh and it only got worse when FAUX came along I hate those creatures on FAuX. They have ruined more relationships than anything I have seen in my lifetime.
I wish I knew how to stop this hategroup of terrorists blathering nonstop 24/7 about bullshit.

[abelenkpe]

51. Me too!

It's like a drug. I wish I could have my sweet hippy mom back. Part of me thinks if she could just kick the habit or be unplugged shed go back to the person she once was...

Hopefully one day well all be free of FOX and Limbaugh.

[moondust]

26. Dedicated to socialism!

Still echoing through the canyons of ignorance and hate.

[frylock]

29. The Mink Coat Mob was the original Brooks Brothers Riot

http://www.npr.org/2013/10/09/228181831/in-dallas-1963-a-city-of-rage-seized-by-civic-hysteria

[liberal N proud]

30. Kennedy broke some social barriers just like Obama has

And the hate was there just like it is today, much of it fueled by the same organizations although they are less out in the open today.

[rbrnmw]

47. and they brought Catholics who they hated back then along for hate ride this time

I don't even know my Church anymore most of them spew RT wing talking points makes me sick I quit going to Mass

[lostincalifornia]

31. It is, and there were extremely wealthy Texans who made it known. Time magazine

Touched upon it. It is not a coincidence that people were telling Kennedy not to go to Dallas. There were newspapers in that town spreading hate for years before his visit.

I am sorry for those progressives in Texas that have to put up with the crazies in their state, and admire the courage of folks like Wendy Davis who won't just sit and take it.

[90-percent]

32. This is interesting

Because teh hyperbole matches the tone and chararacter of teh current Tea Party Message, and also it matches a great portion of the agenda driven propaganda in our MSM today.

Note that it is possible to declare as wrong and bogus the entirety of the above lext, except #5 is worth a discussion. and what was the real underlying intent of these people back then? did they hate him because he was catholic, a Democract, an Irishman, son of a shady dealing dad (Who would thrive in the present! We'd have a lion of a progressive koch brother were that the case)

The only common objection between JFK and Obama is persecution and discrimination based on religion or gender.

written message hate is the same. is there something besides hate that make these different generations the same?

Why the irrational hate both now and then?

-90% Jimmy

[lpbk2713]

34. Only diff --- the pics are monochrome.

Today they would be in color.

Nothing changes but the changes.

[SomethingFishy]

35. The more things change...

Thanks JV.. this actually gives me hope.... They use the same damn playbook generation after generation. We have beat them before and we will beat them again.

[red dog 1]

36. Those photos are from "the early 1960s", but not from Nov. 22, 1963

On the day he was murdered, JFK and Jackie left the Texas Hotel in Ft. Worth and were greeted by thousands of friendly Texans; and after the short flight to Dallas, they were again greeted by many thousands of friendly bystanders along the route.

The Dallas crowd was so large & friendly that Gov. John Connely's wife, who was in the front seat, turned around and said to JFK "You can't say Texas doesn't love you, Mr. President."

[KurtNYC]

41. One person there said the turn out on the sidewalk was better than expected but

when you looked up into the office windows, the people who didn't come down, the contempt was obvious.

[red dog 1]

44. "when you looked up into the office windows, the people who didn't come down,

the contempt was obvious"?

How could someone look up into a 3,4,5,or 6 story window and see "obvious contempt"?

Wouldn't that be extremely difficult to do with the naked eye?

Wouldn't it take a pair of binoculars to see "obvious contempt" on any faces in those windows?


What about the thousands of cheering JFK supporters in Ft. Worth that day?

[duffyduff]

56. The only person who had contempt along the motorcade route was Lee Harvey Oswald. n/t

[duffyduff]

55. Exactly true. There wasn't a nicer, more friend city, than Dallas that day

until that nutjob at the Texas School Book Depository decided on murder.

[progressoid]

42. I remember similar things during the Clinton years too.

[Warren DeMontague]

53. Right, just remember that a crazy disgruntled communist with a mail-order rifle

acting totally alone killed him, and you better not ask any questions about it.

That's why we still have to have sealed files on the matter 50 years later, yaknow- because the CASE IS CLOSED DAMMIT!!!!!

[red dog 1]

59. + 1000