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madokie

(51,076 posts)
1. Kochs brothers suck
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:29 AM
Dec 2011

They bought a local paper plant that had been making paper for drywall since right after world war 2 and promptly went to work to shut it down. Two months after buying the plant its a ghost town now. I knew a lot of people who raised their families from the union wages that they earned working there.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
2. Those shitheads make me vomit. More importantly: is this manufactured in CHINA??
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:40 AM
Dec 2011

Right now we have no jobs here. They've been taken by other corporate pigs (in addition to the Koch pigs) to China. I wonder if by not buying Georgia Pacific we're hurting workers? I don't know. I need someone to talk more about this. The Koch pigs already live in tremendous wealth and splendor and my not buying a plate might not change their piggish lifestyle.

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
3. Be careful of some of the "store brands" too, which may well be Georgia Pacific, if you research
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:41 AM
Dec 2011

I'm starting to keep a list of "acceptables" for my household. Though the stores push Brawny paper towels like they were serving the heroin addicted, I have shifted to a Safeway staple brand and Scott toilet paper is likewise Koch-free. Paper plates are not something I routinely buy.... Usually at Costco.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
4. Some GP plants have collective bargaining agreements with unions.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 08:49 AM
Dec 2011

Many of the products you're listing are union-made.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. They make very good paper bowls.
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 09:32 AM
Dec 2011

It's a difficult situation, but I'd rather keep a union member working, all things considered.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
8. ABOUT UNIONS MAKING KOCH PRODUCTS........YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE COMPLETELY WRONG HERE..
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 01:40 PM
Dec 2011

is this the idea?....

.. Unions represents a lot of workers at GP facilities . The Kochs are doing what they can to break the union, but they are standing strong. A boycott, and resulting loss of business and jobs, would be perfect for the Kochs to force horrible terms onto the workers, then force them out on strike, and be able to weather a strike that kills the union off.

Then they get to be non-union, and it scares anyone else off from unionizing. ..............
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IN THE END.....HERE IS WHAT CAN HAPPEN........

In the end we have a non union situation where we had unions before, or worse, foreign competition....
I got no answer, all I know is life isn't simple..

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