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JHB

(37,154 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:17 PM Nov 2013

Is "Obamacare collapse" Obama's Katrina... or the Right's Fitzmas?

Many may remember back around this time in 2005, when Partick Fitzgerald was investigating the the exposure of Valerie Plame as a covert CIA operative, and many people in our virtual neighborhood were eagerly anticipating "Fitzmas", the indictment of Karl Rove and others in Club Shrub.

Nicked Scooter Libby, kinda, but all the biggest bad guys walked away unscathed.

The fizzle of Fitzmas left a lot of people with egg on their face, and a few with a whole truckload of eggs in the face-omlette.

I'm reminded of that anticipatory glee these days by what comes out of the infoxicated world.

I think the Fitzmas is on the other foot now.

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Is "Obamacare collapse" Obama's Katrina... or the Right's Fitzmas? (Original Post) JHB Nov 2013 OP
Neither, and remember Truman. Laelth Nov 2013 #1
I agree. HappyMe Nov 2013 #3
+1 sakabatou Nov 2013 #4
Another Truman Quote that Obama should have remembered. FarCenter Nov 2013 #7
Truman is HIGHLY under-rated, imo. Laelth Nov 2013 #8
I saw an interview of Rahm Emanuel this morning -- he might have pulled it off. FarCenter Nov 2013 #9
I have mixed feelings about Mr. Emanuel. Laelth Nov 2013 #10
The GOP is America's Katrina napkinz Nov 2013 #2
I have no idea what you're talking about. WilliamPitt Nov 2013 #5
name me no names JHB Nov 2013 #11
Jon Stewart ... napkinz Nov 2013 #6

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. Neither, and remember Truman.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:20 PM
Nov 2013
No apologizing for the ACA!

I've seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the fair Deal, and says he really doesn't believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don't want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman


-Laelth
 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
7. Another Truman Quote that Obama should have remembered.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:24 PM
Nov 2013
When contemplating General Eisenhower winning the Presidential election, Truman said, “He’ll sit here, and he’ll say, ‘Do this! Do that!’ And nothing will happen. Poor Ike—it won’t be a bit like the Army. He’ll find it very frustrating.”


http://www.bartleby.com/73/1514.html

Obama, Jarrett, Sibelius, Tavenner, etc., are the type of managers who believe that if they command an IT system to be built by a date certain, that it will be built by then.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
8. Truman is HIGHLY under-rated, imo.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:26 PM
Nov 2013

He was an excellent President, and an excellent leader of the Democratic Party. His wisdom should be heeded!



-Laelth

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
9. I saw an interview of Rahm Emanuel this morning -- he might have pulled it off.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:37 PM
Nov 2013

I don't think that any of the current staff have the quintessential craziness.

Chief technology officer Aneesh Chopra would come to staff meetings and give uniformly upbeat reports, administration aides said. One time Emanuel looked at him and said: "Whatever you're taking, I want some."


http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/01/nation/la-na-rahm-assess-20101001/2

A project management trouble shooter I knew was known as the "designated screamer". That was back in the day when Rahm's profanity wouldn't have been allowed.
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