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Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:48 AM

"This country was founded by Christians!"

The age-old right-wing meme used to justify dickbag behavior in the name of God.

I would love to point out to them that it was Plymouth Colony that was founded by Christians, not the whole damn country. And the Puritans thought so little good about Christmas that they actually banned the celebration in 1644! So, there's that.

I would also love to tell the "We-are-a-Christian-nation" types that the Jamestown colony, which predates Plymouth by a decade and a half, was founded by greedy fortune-hunters who were unable to do a lick of work for themselves, so they hired, and later enslaved, people to do the work for them. These are the true ancestors of our money-crazed, incompetent corporate masters.

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Aristus Dec 2013 OP
hrmjustin Dec 2013 #1
CatWoman Dec 2013 #2
progressoid Dec 2013 #16
YankeyMCC Dec 2013 #3
tsuki Dec 2013 #4
bench scientist Dec 2013 #5
CatWoman Dec 2013 #28
onehandle Dec 2013 #6
L0oniX Dec 2013 #7
Sanity Claws Dec 2013 #8
hrmjustin Dec 2013 #11
chungking34 Dec 2013 #9
Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #10
hrmjustin Dec 2013 #12
Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #13
Scootaloo Dec 2013 #14
Drahthaardogs Dec 2013 #15
dawg Dec 2013 #21
mikehiggins Dec 2013 #17
Coyotl Dec 2013 #18
indie9197 Dec 2013 #19
Sheepshank Dec 2013 #20
freshwest Dec 2013 #22
KG Dec 2013 #23
nyquil_man Dec 2013 #24
Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #25
RKP5637 Dec 2013 #26
Brigid Dec 2013 #27
unblock Dec 2013 #29
Marblehead Dec 2013 #30

Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:50 AM

1. Also say nowhere in the constitution does it say we are a Christian nation.

 

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:53 AM

2. did you see the Smithsonian article about evidence of cannibalism in Jamestown?

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:32 PM

16. That would make a heck of a bumper sticker!

THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BY CANNIBALS!

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:57 AM

3. To me it's more important how

the country is Formed rather than founded.

And it has been and continues to be formed by a myriad of people with a myriad of different religions and traditions and ideas.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:04 PM

4. I thought Georgia was founded by criminals. I'm

ducking.

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Response to bench scientist (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:08 PM

28. lol



truer words were never spoken

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:24 PM

6. This continent was settled by non-Christians, long before Leif Ericson spotted it.

And he may or may not have been a Pagan at the time.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:26 PM

7. Right! Like the Puritans were any better than the religous system they left.

 

Also ...they seem to forget about that nasty asshole slaver ...Columbus.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:37 PM

8. Isn't this another way of saying that Christians are responsibe for genocide?

People were already living here before the so-called Christians came. They simply pushed the natives out and committed genocide.
If one wants to extol the merits of Christianity, one shouldn't associate it with the founding of the US.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:43 PM

11. Well put!

 

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:40 PM

9. Let's not forget that many of the Founding Fathers were deists

 

But why let facts get in the way of their ignorance?

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:41 PM

10. This country was founded by people living in bands and tribes who walked over from the Bering Strait

 

around 12,000 years ago.

It amazes me how the Right conveniently forgets that Native Americans were here thousand of years before Europeans.

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Response to Vashta Nerada (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:43 PM

12. +1

 

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:48 PM

13. The reasons the Puritans banned Christmas has absolutely nothing to do with secularism

Christmas was not "religious enough" and the old customs of wassailing for booze and food, parties, etc. were the reasons they abandoned it.

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:58 PM

14. They were like the Taliban, but with belt buckles on their hats.

 

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:12 PM

15. I often wonder why they put belt buckles on their heads.

It reminds me of

So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say.

Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:32 PM

21. They didn't.

Buckles were considered "old-fashioned" in the 1800's when people first started commemorating the pilgrims. So artists stuck them everywhere when depicting them - even on their hats.

Neither the Puritans nor the Jamestown settlers wore buckles on their hats. In fact, no one is known to have done that. Only my distant ancestors ...

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:00 PM

17. You guys (and gals) don't get it, do you?

The points about the immigrants from ancient Asia are well taken. The points about the Vikings (which historical research suggests had a much larger footprint on aboriginal North America than earlier suspected) and, yeah, even the collection of ne'er do well's from Europe who founded those colonies, they are true as well.
However, as I have posted every year since I came on this board, the people who founded this NATION, or at least those who manipulated things into falling into place the way they did, were those damned Freemasons with their ideas about individuals rights and universal education and so forth and so on.
And you wonder sometimes if the British generals threw some of those battles...

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:07 PM

18. The USA was founded by fu@#ing genocidalist slavers!

 

Ask any Native American or African American.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:20 PM

19. I wouldn't say our corporate masters are incompetent

They are doing a damn good job of doing what they do!

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:25 PM

20. Errr...the reality "This country was FUNDED by Christians"

 

..follow the money

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:34 PM

22. It was 'found' by natives. The 'founded by' Europeans is just a fictional construct. n/t

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:35 PM

23. even if it was. so fucking what?

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:43 PM

24. Let's ask these founders what they think we should do.

Oh, what? They're dead?

Damn it. Maybe we should decide for ourselves, then.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:54 PM

25. The 'Religious Right" genuninely do believe that the American Revolution was the creation of "Bible

believing," born again, fundamentalist Christians. They genuinely do believe that the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution were based on fundamentalist born again Christians principles. They genuinely do believe all the founders of the American republic from John Adams to Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson to George Washington were fundamentalist born again Christians led by the Holy Spirit and were the forerunners of the Moral Majority, The Christian Coalition and the Family Research Council. They genuinely do believe that born again fundamentalist Christians are the only legitimate participants in the American tradition that was established by THEIR forefathers when the nation was founded in 1776. Yes that is completely outrageous - But this is exactly what the religious right does believe - pretty much every one of them. Liberals and secularist are a foreign enemy entity trying to hijack something they have no right to and this is the root cause of all of America's problems. This is their worldview and their universally assumed understanding of history and anyone who tries to tell them otherwise is lying or crazy and certainly evil and a traitor against the United States of America.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 02:55 PM

26. Well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:03 PM

27. "Founded by Christians?"

The Native Americans might beg to differ.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 03:14 PM

29. founded by people who FLED christian nations is more like it.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 04:39 PM

30. no, but turned christian...

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