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Obamas Defining Fight: How He Will Take On the NSAs Surveillance State in 2014Before he left for Hawaii, the president was sending signals that government surveillance programs need an overhaul to restore the publics faith on issues of national security.
This is a must-read:
But he also talked about the substance of the proposals and assessed their viability within the administration. He said he believed the bulk of the 46 recommendations would be acceptable to the intelligence community. He also said that many of the recommendations toward the back end of the panel's report could be easily adopted, including new procedures for establishing secure networks without infringing Internet freedom, and improving vetting and security clearances in hiring. He even mentioned a specific number, amounting to roughly 75 percent of the 46 recommendations, that he thought could be adopted without any problem.
A number of panel members, speaking anonymously, said they had the clear impression that Obama was personally inclined to back their proposals on ending the metadata program, as well as many of the other recommendations that would rein in the NSA's surveillance capabilities. "The question is whether he will be able to resist whatever pushback comes from the intelligence community," said one panel member.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/12/31/obama-s-defining-fight-how-he-will-take-on-the-nsa-s-surveillance-state-in-2014.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/31/1266232/-Exclusive-Report-Obama-Will-Take-on-the-NSA-s-Surveillance-State-in-2014
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Autumn
(45,042 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)I believe the NSA and the CIA are too powerful and are
part of the so called breakaway civilization..that they are beyond citizen control.
Just like Obama took care of Wall Street and the Banks?
LOL
Yeah, he talks the talk but to walk the walk he crosses
the powers that are in control.. more crumbs for the masses.
Not gonna happen.
solarhydrocan
(551 posts)what used to be called a Coup d'etat. Regime change is more User Friendly.
These days major news media just throw out the phrase "Regime Change" like it's discussing the latest new teen fad.
And the American People, by tolerating this unaccountable out of control rogue agency, are just as much to blame as the CIA. Looking the other way may have worked for awhile....
Regime change has been attempted through direct involvement of U.S. operatives, the funding and training of insurgency groups within these countries, anti-regime propaganda campaigns, coups d'état, and other activities usually conducted as operations by the CIA. The United States has also accomplished regime change by direct military action, such as following the U.S. invasion of Panama in 1989 and the U.S.-led military invasion of Iraq in 2003.
2 During the Cold War
2.1 Communist states 194489
2.2 Syria 1949
2.3 Iran 1953
2.4 Guatemala 1954
2.5 Tibet 195570s
2.6 Indonesia 1958
2.7 Cuba 1959
2.8 Democratic Republic of the Congo 196065
2.9 Iraq 196063
2.10 Dominican Republic 1961
2.11 South Vietnam 1963
2.12 Brazil 1964
2.13 Ghana 1966
2.14 Chile 197073
2.15 Argentina 1976
2.16 Afghanistan 197989
2.17 Turkey 1980
2.18 Poland 198081
2.19 Nicaragua 198190
2.19.1 Destablization through CIA assets
2.19.2 Arming the Contras
2.20 Cambodia 198095
2.21 Angola 1980s
2.22 Philippines 1986
3 Since the end of the Cold War
3.1 Iraq 199296
3.2 Afghanistan 2001
3.3 Venezuela 2002
3.4 Iraq 200203
3.5 Haiti 2004
3.6 Gaza Strip 2006present
3.7 Somalia 200607
3.8 Iran 2005present
3.9 Libya 2011
3.10 Syria 2012present
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions
What goes around...
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Because that is only what was released through FOIA
And we still have no budget from them.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)We will hear many good intentions.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Look for more scandals coming to light.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)for digging up dirt. Your application is completely consistent with the
system capabilities.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Obama will throw out bones and crumbs.
that won't even have any DNA in them. to change anything.
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)At this point, I am definitely skeptical.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)bobduca
(1,763 posts)Yeah just like the Total Information Awareness program was "ended"
Here is your double plus good terminology update:
- ending - when a black program is revealed it is renamed and the old program is "ended".
- to surveil - when a human agent checks a checkbox labelled "I have seen this" on information that was already collected, transcribed, analyzed and indexed by machines
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frylock
(34,825 posts)spanone
(135,816 posts)of course they attack him now for the nsa snooping
Cha
(297,117 posts)in Hawai'i for the Holiday Season and when he gets back it will be time to handle what he needs to. Including all the bullshit.
Thanks for the link, kpete
FactBasedLifeform
(55 posts)He will get his much-needed rest and come back to kick some ass.