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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:37 PM Jan 2014

Terri Schiavo family joins Jahi McMath family in life support fight

The family of Terri Schiavo has joined the battle over Jahi McMath, a 13-year-old girl on life support who has been declared dead by doctors.

"Together with our team of experts, Terri's Network believes Jahi's case is representative of a very deep problem within the U.S. healthcare system -- particularly those issues surrounding the deaths of patients within the confines of hospital corporations, which have a vested financial interest in discontinuing life," the Terri Schiavo Life & Hope Network said in a prepared statement.

The organization said it has been overseeing the efforts of several groups to help get Jahi transferred out of Children's Hospital Oakland and brought "to a safe place."

Jahi's family said Tuesday it had found a facility in New York willing to take her. The Oakland hospital "refused to agree to allow us to proceed in that matter," Jahi's uncle Omari Sealey said.

The hospital denied the accusation."


http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/01/health/jahi-mcmath-girl-brain-dead/index.html


This is starting to get kind of ugly with the lawyers pointing fingers now and calling each other a liar.
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Terri Schiavo family joins Jahi McMath family in life support fight (Original Post) davidn3600 Jan 2014 OP
All of this takes the attention away from the malpractice that killed this poor child. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #1
I've read that the longer this goes on the harder it will be to perform a proper autopsy davidn3600 Jan 2014 #10
I thought they didn't do tonsillectomies anymore. TheMightyFavog Jan 2014 #18
This was for sleep apnea XemaSab Jan 2014 #19
The Schiavo family's getting involved? Hayabusa Jan 2014 #2
Will Shovelface Hannity organize a vigil this time? n/t TheCowsCameHome Jan 2014 #12
How much would it cost daily to keep this dead's body on life support? Orrex Jan 2014 #3
A lot of insurance companies stop paying once the person is declared dead. Barack_America Jan 2014 #16
Good info, and excellent points (nt) Orrex Jan 2014 #20
So let me see if I understand this? Liberal Veteran Jan 2014 #4
There's more holes LiberalElite Jan 2014 #7
Maybe George Bush rsmith6621 Jan 2014 #5
Its particularly getting ugly when LiberalElite Jan 2014 #6
Bunch of ghouls, the Schindler family. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #8
Can Randall Terry be far behind?...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #9
Call in Bill Frist. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2014 #11
Sadly, the foundation run by Terri Schiavo's family spends most of its donations on salaries Tanuki Jan 2014 #13
I don't understand why these Christian families fear death to this degree. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #14
One the great contradictions of a faith I gave up long ago. Liberal Veteran Jan 2014 #17
It is just hateful for the Schiavos to get involved and expoit this family. dflprincess Jan 2014 #15
I don't think anyone could have predicted this...nt Javaman Jan 2014 #21
Fucking ghouls. Iggo Jan 2014 #22
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. All of this takes the attention away from the malpractice that killed this poor child.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:43 PM
Jan 2014

Three procedures that should not have been done at the same time.

Money Money Money.

For the last three weeks, Jahi's family has been calling routine press conferences, jumping on social media, filing court papers and praying for a miracle following Jahi's Dec. 9 surgeries to cure her sleep apnea. Jahi's story turned into an international tale about patients' rights and the legal, medicial and religious definitions of "brain death."

The surgeries she received included: An adenotonsillectomy; a uvulopalatopharyngloplasty, or UPPP, which is tissue removal in the throat; and submucous resection of bilateral inferior turbinates, which is nasal obstruction. Singer described the surgeries as "complex."


I'll bet everybody gets paid, too.
 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
10. I've read that the longer this goes on the harder it will be to perform a proper autopsy
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 10:25 PM
Jan 2014

It might kill any malpractice case.

TheMightyFavog

(13,770 posts)
18. I thought they didn't do tonsillectomies anymore.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 11:37 PM
Jan 2014

I was sure that procedure went the way of the dodo.

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
2. The Schiavo family's getting involved?
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:44 PM
Jan 2014

Soon there will be accusations that the doctors intentionally did this to the girl, I bet.

Orrex

(63,185 posts)
3. How much would it cost daily to keep this dead's body on life support?
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jan 2014
hospital corporations, which have a vested financial interest in discontinuing life,"

It would seem to me that, if anything, they'd have an interest in continuing "life" for as long as they can continue to squeeze money out of the survivors and their insurance companies.


What a bunch of fucking ghouls. Has Dr. Frist offered a diagnosis-by-video yet?

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
16. A lot of insurance companies stop paying once the person is declared dead.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 11:06 PM
Jan 2014

Her expenses will fall on the family at this point. And I'm certain they won't pay.

The more pressing concern for te hospital is that her corpse is occupying an ICU bed, which tend to be very limited in number.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
4. So let me see if I understand this?
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jan 2014

Terri's Network is under the impression that the hospital would make more money from a dead patient than one on continuous life support?

Isn't that sorta like claiming the phone company would make money if everyone canceled their phone service? Or food producers would make more money if everyone stopped eating?

Am I missing something in their logic?

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
6. Its particularly getting ugly when
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:52 PM
Jan 2014

Schiavo Life & Hope, an organization that had Sarah Palin featured at its awards ceremony in Feb. 2013, is now using this girl for ideological reasons. This year Glenn Beck is invited!

Tanuki

(14,916 posts)
13. Sadly, the foundation run by Terri Schiavo's family spends most of its donations on salaries
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 10:43 PM
Jan 2014

for the family members.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case
..."In April 2010, Michael Schiavo charged that the Schindlers were improperly using Terri's name, as he held the rights to it, and that the family was using the foundation in order to make money. A Florida television station looked at the foundation's tax records and found that for 2008, it paid 64% of the $91,568 it raised in salaries to Terri's father, Robert Schindler, Sr., her sister, Suzanne Vitadamo, and her brother, Robert Schindler, Jr. Their attorney said the foundation does its work effectively and that the high percentage for salaries was due to the small amount of money the foundation raises. He also said that the Schindlers had the right to use Terri's name as she is a public figure.[6] The foundation had been fined $1,000 shortly before Schiavo's death for failing to file timely paperwork.[76] In September 2010, the Schindlers renamed the organization the "Terri Schiavo Life and Hope Network."

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
14. I don't understand why these Christian families fear death to this degree.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 10:48 PM
Jan 2014

Don't they want their loved ones to head on up to heaven?

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
17. One the great contradictions of a faith I gave up long ago.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 11:09 PM
Jan 2014

While it certainly doesn't apply to all, I have often been perplexed at the lengths the faithful will go to avoid the reward of eternal life in heaven.



dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
15. It is just hateful for the Schiavos to get involved and expoit this family.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 10:56 PM
Jan 2014

The child's parents need people who will gently help them make the decision to turn the machines off.

I had the medical power of attorney for my brother and was the one who had to make the decision to extubate him. In my brother's case, the machine was not keeping him alive but he had end stage lung cancer and we knew he would not keep going very long without the ventillator (45 minutes as it turned out). He & I had discussed what he would want and I knew pulling the tube was the right thing. His kids were in agreement and the hospital had brought in a pallaitve care doctor to help nudge us along.

Still, it was still incredibely hard to tell the doctors to do it. And this was my little brother not my child. I can't imagine what these parents are going through.


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