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Al Jazeera TV is airing a show(segment) about Chantix. On now... (Original Post) wildbilln864 Jan 2014 OP
It is a well known side effect nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #1
wow, new to me... wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #2
Pay attention to the commercial nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #3
thanks, wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #5
Hilarious, I've watched their ads and wondered if anyone is stupid enough to risk DEATH, yes they sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #6
Well go ahead and call me stupid. I'm on Chantix to quit smoking. tammywammy Jan 2014 #7
Good for you ..and good luck justamama83 Jan 2014 #22
Then there are people like my dad nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #8
Healthy 80 yr old smokers? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #15
Yes, there are plenty of healthy 80 year old smokers in the world. I've met several of them. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #16
find a doctor that would agree with you then... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #17
Had the identical thought malaise Jan 2014 #18
If you want to quit nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #19
My son used it to quit. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #4
It's an anti-depressant. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #9
I think you may have Chantix mixed up with Wellbutrin. tammywammy Jan 2014 #10
Oh, you're right. Sorry, I thought it was a trade name. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #11
When I was at my doctor's to discuss smoking cessation he went over all my options. tammywammy Jan 2014 #12
A family member quit using Chantix DirkGently Jan 2014 #13
Blocks them, and it changes brain chemistry nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #14
It worked for me. forthemiddle Jan 2014 #20
it worked for me and several of my co-workers sad-cafe Jan 2014 #21
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. Pay attention to the commercial
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:16 AM
Jan 2014

The possibility of suicide is listed.

It still is the most successful at getting patients off tobacco.

A good clinician will ask the obvious questions on psychiatric history before writing a script, chief concern is a history of moderate to severe depression. And a good clinician will go through the possible side effects of any drug prescribed, not just chiantix.

 

wildbilln864

(13,382 posts)
5. thanks,
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:21 AM
Jan 2014

quit on my own back in 09. Seems like a majority of the new drugs they come out with all the time may cause suicidal tendencies. Best to just smoke a fat doobie IMHO.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. Hilarious, I've watched their ads and wondered if anyone is stupid enough to risk DEATH, yes they
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:24 AM
Jan 2014

tell you you can die from the effects of Chantix, to stop doing something they have obviously not died from for many years.

'Truth in advertising'. I guess if you die they have accomplished their goal.

The healthiest people I know are smokers, many of them in their eighties by now.

What a scam this all is.

If I were a smoker and had lived to be in my eighties why on earth would I risk taking a deadly drug to try to stop doing something that had not adversely affected me for my entire life?

It's amusing though to observe how susceptible some people are to emotional manipulation.

Chantix or a cigarette? That is an easy choice.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
7. Well go ahead and call me stupid. I'm on Chantix to quit smoking.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:31 AM
Jan 2014

I have had no issues with depression, and people on it should be mindful. I had a discussion with my doctor that included a warning if I started feeling depressed or suicidal.

The Chantix is doing what it's supposed to, it removed the satisfaction from cigarettes and is giving me a chance to modify my habits to something healthier.

justamama83

(87 posts)
22. Good for you ..and good luck
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 06:55 AM
Jan 2014

I used Chantix in 2007 after having a heart attack at age 42...I took the pills for 3 months and have been tobacco free since. I had strange dreams- my present mixed with my past (was at college making cakes with my kids) but other than that no bad reactions. I'm no doctor but maybe there were some underlying issues that went undiagnosed prior to them taking the meds. It was the best thing for me at the time, I am not sure I would've had the willpower to stay off the ciggys.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. Then there are people like my dad
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:35 AM
Jan 2014

May he rest in peace. He quit for nine months after bypass surgery. Later in his life Chiantix was recommended, due to it's very high success rate with long term smokers.

It is not a scam. There are people who simply should not take it. But with care it simply works. More people die from a Tylenol overdose (it destroys the liver, nothing you can do to reverse it once it is underway) than Chiantix. Is that a scam too? What I question is some doctors prescribing it as if it was candy.

As my pharmacology prof put it many years ago, all medications are a poison, and all are potentially deadly. Be careful how you use them. He was an old fogey who loved to teach pharmacology to doctors, nurses and paramedics, and started every course with that caveat. Any med can kill.

And cigarettes are so damn harmless this is why dad needed O2 almost constantly the last year of his life. Yup, harmless.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
15. Healthy 80 yr old smokers?
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 02:24 AM
Jan 2014

I doubt you could get any medical doctors to agree with you that there are would be no ill effects on their health from years and decades of smoking....

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
16. Yes, there are plenty of healthy 80 year old smokers in the world. I've met several of them.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:37 PM
Jan 2014

I know they have doctors who propably warned them 30 years ago to quit and are amazed to see them not only still around, but healthier than many of their non-smoking patients.

Maybe they didn't expose themselves to many of the daily poisons most of us are breathing in every day by living in more rural areas, lessening their exposure to dangerous chemicals and auto emissions among other things. Not just in their eighties, older than that actually. And not stressing over what other people are doing could be a factor also.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
17. find a doctor that would agree with you then...
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:38 PM
Jan 2014

what you are saying is anectdotal...

Find one doctor who will agree that you are "healthy" after years and decades of smoking...that there are no ill effects.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
19. If you want to quit
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:45 PM
Jan 2014

And have tried other things, it has a very high success rate. It just needs to be used with care. The better question is why would people smoke? Now that is the real shit.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
4. My son used it to quit.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:20 AM
Jan 2014

And yes, depression and suicidal ideation are symptoms to watch for.

Better to not start smoking.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
9. It's an anti-depressant.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:37 AM
Jan 2014

It is a well-known effect that very depressed people starting anti-depressants have an increased risk of suicide for the period where their moods have improved enough that they have some energy but not enough yet that they're not very depressed.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
10. I think you may have Chantix mixed up with Wellbutrin.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:40 AM
Jan 2014

Wellbutrin is an anti-depressant that some have used to quit smoking.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
12. When I was at my doctor's to discuss smoking cessation he went over all my options.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:49 AM
Jan 2014

I'm on Chantix. We did discuss Wellbutrin along with the patch, gum, etc.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
13. A family member quit using Chantix
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 01:51 AM
Jan 2014

...after decades of struggle and many partly successful attempts to quit. Zero side effects, according to him. Another family member is trying it now with no ill effects so far; not even the supposedly common "unusual dreams" or nightmares.

I'm in full agreement regarding the number of drugs on the market with seemingly insane side effects.

But smoking is a ferocious addiction, and so damaging regardless of whether it kills you outright.

This drug seems to work. It apparently blocks nicotine receptor sites and can eliminate the urge to smoke.





 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. Blocks them, and it changes brain chemistry
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 02:04 AM
Jan 2014

As was explained. It has side effects, like all drugs. A minority of people will have them. I am glad it is helping kin of yours to quit that shit.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
20. It worked for me.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 09:20 PM
Jan 2014

I smoked for over 30 years. In a little more than 2 weeks I was smoke free! That was 2 1/2 years ago. I have not smoked, even a puff since!
I had very few side effects. Only a little heartburn, and about a week of insomnia when I quit the Chantix. I highly recommend it!

 

sad-cafe

(1,277 posts)
21. it worked for me and several of my co-workers
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 10:01 PM
Jan 2014

We didn't care what "could have been" we were just happy to quit.

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