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babylonsister

(171,042 posts)
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 05:20 PM Jan 2014

Young Viewers Avoid Fox News Like the Plague as Ratings Drop 30%



http://www.politicususa.com/2014/01/02/young-viewers-avoid-fox-news-plague-ratings-drop-30.html

Young Viewers Avoid Fox News Like the Plague as Ratings Drop 30%
By: Jason Easley
Thursday, January, 2nd, 2014, 3:59 pm


Fox News’ attempt to stop the flood of young viewers from fleeing the network failed as FNC lost the most young viewers of any cable news network in 2013.

TVNewser reported on the big drop in young people tuning into Fox News, “Compared to 2012, Fox News was down -5% in total viewers and -19% in the A25-54 demographic in total day. In primetime, the network was down -14% in total viewers and -30% in the demo, the steepest decline among younger viewers of all the cable news networks.”

2012 was a presidential election year, so all three cable news networks lost viewers in 2013. The difference is that at Fox News this problem has been going on for years. The move of Megyn Kelly to 9 PM was supposed to attract young viewers, but Kelly suffered a drop 23% in young viewership compared to Sean Hannity’s 2012 ratings. Bill O’Reilly is down 23% with younger viewers, and Hannity is down 16%.

Fox knows that this is a serious problem. It’s the reason why they shook up their primetime schedule. The reality is that Fox News has the oldest audience in all television. The average age of a Fox News viewer is 65 years old. FNC can remain the ratings leader in the short term future as long as the senior set keeps tuning in, but what happens when there aren’t enough young people tuning in to replace the elderly audience?

If Fox News fails to build a future audience, they will go extinct. It would have been unfathomable in early 1990s to suggest that one day CNN would be the least watched cable news network, but that is exactly what has happened. Beneath all of the arrogant swagger and bragging, Fox News has a huge problem.

It isn’t just that younger people aren’t watching. They are flat out rejecting Fox News. Just like the Republican Party, Fox News is aging and fading. Attempts to rebrand are going nowhere, as young news consumers have been turned off by Fox.
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Young Viewers Avoid Fox News Like the Plague as Ratings Drop 30% (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2014 OP
No one likes being lied to all the time. Get a clue RepubliWankers. Berlum Jan 2014 #1
Not true. Mariana Jan 2014 #9
Good points. n/t loudsue Jan 2014 #14
Or, to quote David Frum, "conservatives are being fleeced by a right-wing entertainment industry." TrollBuster9090 Jan 2014 #25
Wow, what a great concise summation Populist_Prole Jan 2014 #60
I don't know about that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #32
Yes, Faux did go overboard that time, and lost some viewers. Mariana Jan 2014 #49
The original mission statement (now scrubbed from view) Thor_MN Jan 2014 #75
Well, FOX Noise was never created to make money. fasttense Jan 2014 #79
"Well, FOX Noise was never created to make money." greiner3 Jan 2014 #95
Except apparently my Cha Jan 2014 #62
Total perfection. DamnYankeeInHouston Jan 2014 #102
But will they VOTE? RoverSuswade Jan 2014 #2
Hahah! Seriously, if the Federal Govt. came up with some sort of ONLINE VOTING system...YES! TrollBuster9090 Jan 2014 #39
Bimbo land ificandream Jan 2014 #3
Why do blonde females, even those on FOX, get denigrated as "bimbos"? whathehell Jan 2014 #22
Fox is overrun with bimbos and bimbas (or whatever the male equivalent is) . . . MrModerate Jan 2014 #23
Maybe, but the reason you're not SURE of the 'male equivalent' is because it's so rarely used whathehell Jan 2014 #38
No disagreement here. n/t MrModerate Jan 2014 #46
Thank you, and that bolsters my point that women are put down WAY too much & too oftern. n/t whathehell Jan 2014 #48
I told that to the snake lady at the circus too. L0oniX Jan 2014 #87
Pretty boy looks? pangaia Jan 2014 #26
Steve Doocy is the Fox & Friends weather bimbo WonderGrunion Jan 2014 #31
YES get the red out Jan 2014 #78
He looks like Fred Flintstone and his audience is primarily cave men/women. So you do Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2014 #57
Fox is sexist treestar Jan 2014 #81
Well, to be honest, I'm not sure that the Fox women are "stupid", just misguided like RW men whathehell Jan 2014 #82
Megyn Kelly IS a bimbo, textbook definition, IMO - closeupready Jan 2014 #93
There is no "textbook definition" of that word, it's old mafia slang, sexist as hell whathehell Jan 2014 #105
Not sexist. closeupready Jan 2014 #106
Of course it is...It's old mafia slang for women and that's who it describes 99.9% of the time whathehell Jan 2014 #108
Nope. As sexist as 'moron' or 'osmosis' or 'transvascular'. closeupready Jan 2014 #109
Whenever I switch to Fox my eyes are immediately riveted RoverSuswade Jan 2014 #89
Why is that their problem? whathehell Jan 2014 #107
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of assholes. Oh, and Santa's "a white dude"! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #4
Kicked and recommended for the aware, intelligent young people. Uncle Joe Jan 2014 #5
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #51
indeed.. very glad there are young people and I take my tv viewing recs from them.. Voice for Peace Jan 2014 #71
The blond newswomen cross and uncross their legs for the old coots Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #6
New set design: News models reading headlines as they swing back and forth on a giant wrecking ball. tanyev Jan 2014 #7
The young aren't watching much TV at all KurtNYC Jan 2014 #8
Right. progressoid Jan 2014 #15
thank you for posting this. Interesting KittyWampus Jan 2014 #33
Does using iamthebandfanman Jan 2014 #40
Yes and no. Neoma Jan 2014 #76
I once had a choice between cable tv and internet... yuiyoshida Jan 2014 #100
Can't come soon enough for me. The percentages *still* watching is disturbing. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #10
The programming that appeals to the Fox base is the same programming that alienates young people Gothmog Jan 2014 #11
Do you mean "do NOT like"? ntt tblue37 Jan 2014 #52
Remember 2012 was an election year. I bet ratings are down on every news network for 2013 Beaverhausen Jan 2014 #12
Seriously? Can't even read the 3rd paragraph of the excerpt? jeff47 Jan 2014 #20
My. My. My. Beaverhausen doth protest too much. BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #35
Sssshhhh! We're not supposed to notice. You Better Believe It! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #43
Yep. We're supposed to be as ignorant as they wrongly think we are. BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #58
+1 Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #91
But they installed those giant iPads in the studio! DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #13
Must include the picture! BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #45
Thank you, and you're right...the picture is worth a thousand words nt DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #47
The fox newsroom looks like Lilliput! thesquanderer Jan 2014 #70
Imagine trying to get work done while having to be a TV prop. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #88
The language in this article is a tad fuzzy. FoxNews does have the oldest audience in all of Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #16
the Republican party is dying lovuian Jan 2014 #17
Purely anecdotal I know, but we have 5 kids under the age of 40 legcramp Jan 2014 #18
Does it take into account how many people turned off their cable/dish? Blanks Jan 2014 #19
Not worried about this younger generation. searchingforlight Jan 2014 #21
I watched BRET BAEIER, SPECIAL REPORT yesterday, and saw five advertisements for CANES in one hour. TrollBuster9090 Jan 2014 #24
I suspect young viewers probably are not spending much time watching any of the news shows lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #27
It is surprising how gleeful this makes me feel. Squinch Jan 2014 #28
I watch Fox News almost every day. Mr.Bill Jan 2014 #29
Yeah, me too. It's actually fairly entertaining in that context. eom Blanks Jan 2014 #36
Who would have guessed that Fox News EC Jan 2014 #30
GREAT NEWS! Even the cons I know who watch FoxNews regularly know it's full of shit Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #34
Thank you, babylonsister! BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #37
You can't fool all the people all the time. And good luck with the youths! Coyotl Jan 2014 #41
Looks like the Daily show, SNL and the other comedy shows kimbutgar Jan 2014 #42
excellent Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #44
Could Some Of The Millenials Have Noticed That... Vogon_Glory Jan 2014 #50
k&r... spanone Jan 2014 #53
The youth of this country can't afford to be RUSHED to judgment, ergo.. orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #54
It's pretty hard to rebrand shit and make it smell nice. n/t RKP5637 Jan 2014 #55
Anyone, regardless of age, who lives in Hotel Reality would reject Faux. Boomerproud Jan 2014 #56
Their Audience Share Declines Daily colsohlibgal Jan 2014 #59
Megyn Kelly? What was it.. the Cha Jan 2014 #61
Who else here is surprised that they have young viewers at all? NT Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #63
It doesn't matter if young viewers avoid Fox "News" like the plague. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #64
Oh yes there is, almost no young viewer I know watches corporate TV its youtube or other sources Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #65
Millions of voters only watch corporate TV. It might be a bad choice but it is one people make. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #66
The corporate viewers are a declining demographic Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #67
One that includes me and my family. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #69
My kids, and their spouses, are Democrats HockeyMom Jan 2014 #68
No Fox "News Channel" here. mwooldri Jan 2014 #72
Our young folks are less bigoted - TBF Jan 2014 #73
FOX NEWS IS ON LIFE-SUPPORT. JEFF9K Jan 2014 #74
The kids are all right n/t Demeter Jan 2014 #77
So their only attempt to build a younger viewership was JoeyT Jan 2014 #80
Normal people don't watch Pox News (NT) The Wizard Jan 2014 #83
FOX re brand father founding Jan 2014 #84
Fox News is BORING. Mariana Jan 2014 #85
Its boring but effective LiberalLovinLug Jan 2014 #97
It's not effective for getting them new, younger viewers. Mariana Jan 2014 #103
Nothing drives young people away faster than them knowing that old people like it. L0oniX Jan 2014 #86
Kids these days... they just don't like Fox Tabloid News! Boysterload Jan 2014 #90
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jan 2014 #96
That's because it is a plague /nt Shankapotomus Jan 2014 #92
THIS NEEDS THREE STANDING OVATIONS yuiyoshida Jan 2014 #94
I looked up the MSNBC numbers madville Jan 2014 #98
I hope I live to see the day they go off the air shenmue Jan 2014 #99
Excellent! gopiscrap Jan 2014 #101
Thanks, Babylon! You bring us great news!! AAO Jan 2014 #104
Well, let's see . . . HughBeaumont Jan 2014 #110

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
9. Not true.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jan 2014

Faux brought this on themselves by making the decision, way back when, to pander to the conservative fools and tell those viewers what they want to hear all the time, rather than reporting the truth. Now, Faux can't change the way they do things, because the current Faux audience love being lied to all the time. They insist on it, in fact. If Faux should start reporting the truth, the current audience would shut them right off.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
25. Or, to quote David Frum, "conservatives are being fleeced by a right-wing entertainment industry."
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jan 2014

So, I'm not sure who brought what on whom. But yes, the reality is that Fox News and the rest of the right wing echo chamber are telling their viewers exactly what they want to hear, for the specific purpose of selling them stuff, and making money through advertising.

For awhile this had a serious distortion effect on the American political system because this propaganda was actually swaying peoples' opinions. I'd say that was the case until around 2005, when we hit the high water mark, and now the pendulum is swinging the other way. Now we're at a point where the propaganda they're spewing in order to sell hearing aids and overpriced GOLD to conservative-leaning simpletons is only harming the simpletons, and not the public at large. The propaganda-based universe is actually damaging the conservative movement.

The government shut-down was a perfect example of that. Practically none of the GOP lawmakers believed it would accomplish anything besides driving their approval ratings into the dirt; but they were FORCED to do it anyway. Forced by their BASE who had been watching Fox and listening to Rush, who were telling them that this strategy would SUCCEED!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
32. I don't know about that ...
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:52 PM
Jan 2014

I have a couple rightwing associates that, after the 2012 election, swore never to watch/believe fox"news" again ... though I suspect they still visit breitbart and drudge.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
49. Yes, Faux did go overboard that time, and lost some viewers.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 10:04 PM
Jan 2014

Faux have put themselves in a hell of a spot. In 2012, they really were in a no-win situation, and were going to lose some viewers no matter what they did.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
75. The original mission statement (now scrubbed from view)
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 10:08 AM
Jan 2014

said that Faux news "was created to counter a perceived liberal bias" in the news media. They knew even before they started that they were not going to deal with reality, they were going to work on perception.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
79. Well, FOX Noise was never created to make money.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 10:36 AM
Jan 2014

They lost money the first five years and it has never been very profitable. It was created to be the mouthpiece of the uber rich and to promote "free" market, neoliberal capitalism, as outlined in the Powell memo. The uber rich support it in order to get their propaganda about capitalism out. That's why the Princes and royalty of several Middle Eastern countries own stock in it. (Yes, feudal kings also love capitalism, at least this kind of capitalism which is very similar to feudalism.) The GOP was/is also involved in it, but it's main purpose is to spew propaganda for the 1%.

And even if no one watches it, it will still be there spewing out lies to con the remnants of middle class America so fat rich men can get fatter and richer.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
95. "Well, FOX Noise was never created to make money."
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jan 2014

But it is financed by their evening programming and other cable channels (FX, sports, movie channels, National Geo (I hate that they have this one), etc...) and movies and the small amount of revenues this portion of their broadcasting costs keep the small investor happy and the 1%'ers even happier.

It really sucks that they do have pretty much the best evening programming as this keeps a loyal base of viewers glued to their TVs and that do get the subtle amount of propaganda the shows 'emit'.

All of the programming does not follow this rule; see 'The Family Guy' and 'The Simpsons'.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
39. Hahah! Seriously, if the Federal Govt. came up with some sort of ONLINE VOTING system...YES!
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:01 PM
Jan 2014

And I'd be all in favor of that. If you can do your BANKING online, provided you can prove your identity, I don't see why you can't vote online.

But, as long as voting is restricted to standing in line for 5 hours, only to have your vote stolen by a crooked Diebold voting machine, then no, I don't think you'll see young voters turning out in large numbers.

The other factor is whether or not the voting process if FAIR. In my experience, young people have a very strong committment to the issue of FAIRNESS, and if the voting system is perceived to be corrupt (gerrymandered districts, crooked voting machines etc.) they may be less inclined to participate. However, I'm sure we could ACTIVATE them through a campaign to CLEAN UP the integrity of the voting system. A campaign about an amendment to the Constitution, guaranteeing everybody the right to vote would be a good start. There is a campaign on that in progress, but it doesn't get nearly enough publicity.

whathehell

(29,050 posts)
22. Why do blonde females, even those on FOX, get denigrated as "bimbos"?
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jan 2014

That's just knee-jerk sexism. After all, look at Sean Hannity -- If you think his

his pretty boy looks didn't help him get his job, you're clearly not paying attention.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
23. Fox is overrun with bimbos and bimbas (or whatever the male equivalent is) . . .
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:19 PM
Jan 2014

It's just the way they roll.

Also, the surpassing idiocy — apparently a requirement to get hired into the job — of whatever female occupies the couch on Fox & Friends poisons the well for all other female news readers anywhere on Fox.

Not to mention that, perhaps more than any other industry, the standards of appearance for women and men in the newsreading business (not just Fox) are wildly different. I attribute this to TV news, across the board, voluntarily sacrificing credibility in favor of entertainment.

whathehell

(29,050 posts)
38. Maybe, but the reason you're not SURE of the 'male equivalent' is because it's so rarely used
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:00 PM
Jan 2014

That's the way misogyny "rolls".

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
78. YES
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 10:32 AM
Jan 2014

There is no way to be more of an idiot than that guy.

The men on Fox and Friends really don't make the female couch occupier look any more stupid than them.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
81. Fox is sexist
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 11:36 AM
Jan 2014

Which is why they hire such women. They wouldn't hire an intelligent female reporter. That would contradict the "ideals" of Faux.

Not that their men are much better, but right wingers will take them more seriously.

whathehell

(29,050 posts)
82. Well, to be honest, I'm not sure that the Fox women are "stupid", just misguided like RW men
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jan 2014

Maybe mean and selfish like most of those as well, but I honestly don't think they differ from the men there.

I think calling women "bimbos" is sexist, even when it's done on DU.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
93. Megyn Kelly IS a bimbo, textbook definition, IMO -
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:29 PM
Jan 2014

she is NOT a journalist, never has been, isn't now, and never will be.

She IS a glamorous news reader and interviewer, hired to be admired and painted up as a pole dancer.

whathehell

(29,050 posts)
108. Of course it is...It's old mafia slang for women and that's who it describes 99.9% of the time
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 06:36 PM
Jan 2014

Look at my exchange with Mr. Moderate on this thread.

RoverSuswade

(641 posts)
89. Whenever I switch to Fox my eyes are immediately riveted
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jan 2014

to female legs. Maybe if Sean Hannity wore only briefs and his camera-friendly bare legs are still nice and hairy bimbo might apply to the men as well. Personall I have other names for Hannity and they ain't fit for kids' ears!

whathehell

(29,050 posts)
107. Why is that their problem?
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 05:38 PM
Jan 2014

I'm not an apologist for FAUX by any means, but shouldn't you be responsible for your own sexual attractions?


P.S. Being attractive does not = Stupid. That's a TRULY stupid equation men seem to have

created for women only.

For example, most people, myself included, find George Clooney, as well as Robert Redford in his day, to be very

attractive males, but no one has EVERY suggested that this had any relation to their intellects, one way or another.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
71. indeed.. very glad there are young people and I take my tv viewing recs from them..
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 09:48 AM
Jan 2014

every since they introduced me to the Daily Show,
as the best source of news, and South Park which
I might otherwise never have watched, and oh they
are also going to save the environment defeat GMO's
crooked politicians big oil and all of it. I am seriously
hopeful on account of them.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
8. The young aren't watching much TV at all
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jan 2014
http://www.marketingcharts.com/wp/television/are-young-people-watching-less-tv-24817/

Some neat charts there that show a huge difference between 65+ and the 18-24 crowd.

Advertisers are going to social media, POS, lifestyle and event marketing and other channels to get back in front of the target audience. 15 years ago some of the first ads were sold INSIDE of video games -- for a fee they would put your billboard in one of the road racing games -- because kids stopped watching conventional TV in favor of video games and online socializing.

The kids aren't watching, people in their 50s aren't watching, so now if we could just get rage-aholic liberals, TDS and Colbert to stop watching Fox News and basing their shows on it, Fox can fade into history.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
40. Does using
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:20 PM
Jan 2014

youtube, hulu, Netflix, and all the other online video/tv show watching websites factor into that?

younger people are just getting it from different sources, not a traditional TV set...

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
76. Yes and no.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 10:23 AM
Jan 2014

I haven't watched TV in forever, but I did switch over to Netflix years ago. But now I find myself not watching much of Netflix either. A bunch of my friends (women) mostly play videogames, but they buy podcasts off their phones too. They also go to movie theatres, but not as often because of how pricey it's gotten. The one I know who really does read, reads erotica, blech. But she doesn't have free time due to her son.

As for myself, I switch back and forth between videogames and books. If I feel dumb from videogames, I read. If my mind feels too cluttered, I play. There's no particular reason to watch a show unless it's smart. After awhile though, you can run out of smart things to watch.

Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
11. The programming that appeals to the Fox base is the same programming that alienates young people
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 05:58 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Thu Jan 2, 2014, 10:35 PM - Edit history (1)

The younger generation do not like the GOP and Fox news positions on issues like same sex marriage and immigration. As a result, the same programming that keeps the base happy also alienates younger voters.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
12. Remember 2012 was an election year. I bet ratings are down on every news network for 2013
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 06:01 PM
Jan 2014

sorry to burst your bubble.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
20. Seriously? Can't even read the 3rd paragraph of the excerpt?
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 06:39 PM
Jan 2014
2012 was a presidential election year, so all three cable news networks lost viewers in 2013. The difference is that at Fox News this problem has been going on for years. The move of Megyn Kelly to 9 PM was supposed to attract young viewers, but Kelly suffered a drop 23% in young viewership compared to Sean Hannity’s 2012 ratings. Bill O’Reilly is down 23% with younger viewers, and Hannity is down 16%.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
35. My. My. My. Beaverhausen doth protest too much.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jan 2014

Never thought I'd see a DUer openly defending Faux News Channel.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
58. Yep. We're supposed to be as ignorant as they wrongly think we are.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 01:24 AM
Jan 2014

But no one's being fooled here. I mean, the "sorry to burst your bubble" was a dead giveaway.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
13. But they installed those giant iPads in the studio!
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 06:03 PM
Jan 2014

What do these whippersnappers want anyway, truthful journalism?

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,984 posts)
88. Imagine trying to get work done while having to be a TV prop.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 01:23 PM
Jan 2014

Those six people in the background are all the under 50s that they could round up.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. The language in this article is a tad fuzzy. FoxNews does have the oldest audience in all of
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 06:16 PM
Jan 2014

television, but it is only a 'ratings leader' when compared to other cable news and commentary outlets. It is not anything near the ratings leader in TV news, nor in cable broadcasting in any time slot. It leads CNN and MSNBC, slightly, using mostly the comatose and soon to be to make up the audience. Cable commentary/news is not a very watched product in general, so leading that pack is not much to brag about.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
17. the Republican party is dying
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 06:20 PM
Jan 2014

and their supporters

of which they have attacked their social security and medicare

 

legcramp

(288 posts)
18. Purely anecdotal I know, but we have 5 kids under the age of 40
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 06:21 PM
Jan 2014

and not one of them has cable TV. Oh they watch all the shows they want to see but everything is "time shifted" and "binge-viewing" on their various devices. They rarely even buy or rent physical media anymore. It's all streaming.

This year Gamma and Grampa got a Chromecast for Christmas because even the Grandkids were complaining that all we had was that crummy cable TV when they came to visit.

And there goes FoxMSNBCCNN's audience, swirling the bowl.





Blanks

(4,835 posts)
19. Does it take into account how many people turned off their cable/dish?
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 06:21 PM
Jan 2014

When one sits down and looks at the old budget and evaluates the need for all those channels when they're working 2 or 3 minimum wage jobs, Hulu and/or Netflix might look like a better deal.

After all Fox News is entertainment, given the choice between having smoke blown up your ass and watching something that is ACTUALLY entertaining...

...Fox News is bound to be what falls by the way side.

Besides they were pretty sure Romney was gonna win. So how reliable can they be as a news source.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
24. I watched BRET BAEIER, SPECIAL REPORT yesterday, and saw five advertisements for CANES in one hour.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jan 2014

'Nuff said.

The advertisers know who their audience is, too.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
34. GREAT NEWS! Even the cons I know who watch FoxNews regularly know it's full of shit
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jan 2014

They are just too dumb to come up with their own arguments when debating Democrats so they like being able to turn on FoxNews and have their debating points hand delivered to them each day. They know it's bullshit, but they can't stand that Dems might be right so they still argue it.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
37. Thank you, babylonsister!
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jan 2014

A shout out for our young people and enthusiastic applause!

I have hope for the future of America again.

and an enthusiastic rec'd!

kimbutgar

(21,103 posts)
42. Looks like the Daily show, SNL and the other comedy shows
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:40 PM
Jan 2014

Have done a great job lampooning and showing the truth how ridiculous Fox is and how they lie and bend the truth.

My husband has a 28 year old right wing nephew who was raised on rush, fox and others. When he sprouts the talking points I ask him did you hear that on fox? He gets defensive and denies it.

Basically those who watch fox get ridiculed. Cool educated people have better things to do than get incensed over Obamacare, they laughed when the president shook Castro's hand and the president let the pm of Sweden take a selfie of them because well it was not news and it's stupid. And finally the occupy movement thoughly discredited Fox. Fox is the network of that old cranky couple on your block who scream at you if step on their lawn.

I welcome the further erosion of this hateful evil network.

Vogon_Glory

(9,113 posts)
50. Could Some Of The Millenials Have Noticed That...
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 10:21 PM
Jan 2014

Living in Texas, I am often in despair about younger generations' apathy, ignorance, and indifference to politics and the trends that will affect them and the ones they love in the not-so-distant future. But this report makes me wonder if the more aware of the younger generations have realized just who is lying to them and have turned away from the networks and talking-heads purveying those lies.

I don't blame the kids one bit if this is true. We baby-boomers are going to leave them a far poorer, more troubled world than the one we got when we reached our legal majority.

Boomerproud

(7,949 posts)
56. Anyone, regardless of age, who lives in Hotel Reality would reject Faux.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 10:37 PM
Jan 2014

Sure took enough time, though. Plenty of damage has been done over the years.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
59. Their Audience Share Declines Daily
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 01:37 AM
Jan 2014

As old people depart this earth their ratings will continue to slide because too many young folks see through their propaganda, slanting, and outright falsehoods.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
64. It doesn't matter if young viewers avoid Fox "News" like the plague.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 06:41 AM
Jan 2014

Because every TV channel is now pushing the alternative right wing bogus reality. Now even PBS and NPR radio are directed and controlled by right wing zealots.

There are few alternatives available to most people.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
65. Oh yes there is, almost no young viewer I know watches corporate TV its youtube or other sources
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 06:49 AM
Jan 2014

for news. I haven't watched corporate in years myself.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
66. Millions of voters only watch corporate TV. It might be a bad choice but it is one people make.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 06:52 AM
Jan 2014

Network news watchers are bombarded with misinformation 24/7.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
69. One that includes me and my family.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 08:56 AM
Jan 2014

And that declining demographic includes a sizable portion of the electorate. I'm pleased that young people refuse to watch Fox. That is a wonderful thing. In the meantime, most Americans are being propagandized to the max.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
68. My kids, and their spouses, are Democrats
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 08:19 AM
Jan 2014

They have never watched Faux. In fact, my Republican husband, who used to be a Faux Fanatic, stopped watching it about 6 weeks before the Presidential election. Faux not only isn't getting the young people, they seem to be losing the old ones too. Husband now watches local news channels instead.

mwooldri

(10,302 posts)
72. No Fox "News Channel" here.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 09:54 AM
Jan 2014

TVs in this house have their channel number blocked like all the ppv porn channels.

Local broadcast TV is what we watch when it comes to linear channels, basically for local news. For certain TV series - if we want first run (in the US), we set the DVR. Otherwise there's lots of choices in streaming video. Netflix, Amazon Prime and Funimation are the services we pay $$$$ for.

TBF

(32,029 posts)
73. Our young folks are less bigoted -
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 09:54 AM
Jan 2014

as evidenced by the fact that they accept gay marriage, the trend is less religious (not that all religious folks are bigots - some are very kind), just general trend that they are more accepting. It gives me hope for the future.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
80. So their only attempt to build a younger viewership was
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 11:34 AM
Jan 2014

to put prettier anchors out to read the fake stories, or at least to move the pretty ones they have around? Without changing the general stupidity of the channel that's been driving people away? Sounds about right.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
85. Fox News is BORING.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jan 2014

It's pretty much the same thing, hour after hour, day after day. They grab onto some topic that few people care much about and they beat it to death, and then they beat it some more, and all the time is the same subtext that the President in particular and Democrats in general are Bad People Who Hate America. Boring.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,168 posts)
97. Its boring but effective
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:52 PM
Jan 2014

I think to a lot of their loyal viewers. You are right, they beat to death the chosen story of the day or month. Its either Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!!! or whatever else they can scrape up. The effect is not benign however. It is the "where there is smoke there is fire" principle. I think a lot of these viewers must think that if a major news network, "the most watched news network", is so concerned about a topic and a perceived wrong-doing from the President day after day after day after day...THEN SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG! Even if one thing is proven to have no legs anymore, another planted story is then bumped up to headline status. There is never even a 5 minute break from the constant pummeling with overlapping punches. It doesn't really matter how real or even how big the story is...it could be just to criticize the President actually taking a vacation!....the main thing it is a constant stream of diarrhea spewing from all their painted mouths.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
103. It's not effective for getting them new, younger viewers.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jan 2014

We can be grateful for that. It's true their effect on the current audience is scary, but the current audience won't be here forever.

madville

(7,408 posts)
98. I looked up the MSNBC numbers
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:57 PM
Jan 2014

They have similar declines as well. They are down between 24-37% in total viewership, primetime, and age 25-54 demo, depending on the criteria you use. It's an industry wide problem, younger people just don't watch news on TV and the decline will continue. When's the last time you saw a person under 50 carrying around a newspaper?

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
110. Well, let's see . . .
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 06:54 PM
Jan 2014

Faux champions an economic system that's designed to keep them broke, indebted and expected to foot the bill for wealthy people's shenanigans, they declare ginned up wars on abstract concepts, they deny global warming and they have all of the warmth, concern and caring of Year-Zero Pol Pot.

I mean, COME on, who WOULDN'T watch?

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