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Aristus

(66,316 posts)
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 07:47 PM Jan 2014

Obamacare news from the field:

Had to leave work early today. I caught Mrs. Aristus's bug and it's doing its work.

BUT!...

Before I left at lunchtime, I saw 11 patients, four of whom had their new ACA policies in effect (Washington State's health insurance exchange, Apple Care). I was able to send out appropriate prescriptions to their pharmacies, instead of settling for whatever $4 medications might have helped, or scrounging around in our (ever-diminishing) stash of donated meds.

I referred three patients out for diagnostic imaging, whch they don't have to pay for out-of-pocket, or apply for financial aid for.

And I referred 2 patients out for specialty evaluation and treatment, all covered under their new policies.


If all continues to go well, I predict single-payer health in the US within 5-7 years...

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Fantastic!!! Thanks for the update; I hope you babylonsister Jan 2014 #1
Great news. Glad to see you are not one of those refusing to accept Hoyt Jan 2014 #2
I work for a not-for-profit community health organization. Aristus Jan 2014 #3
This is wonderful. Thank you for sharing this. I'll sleep a little better tonight. lamp_shade Jan 2014 #4
I am covered, but still scared to see a doctor...been 30 years since I have seen one angstlessk Jan 2014 #5
If you're scared to see a doctor, ask for an appointment with a Physician Assistant. Aristus Jan 2014 #6
Make an appointment for a Physical now. When you do, tell the office that you haven't bluestate10 Jan 2014 #7
Thanks for your service lillypaddle Jan 2014 #8
Thank you, lillypaddle. Aristus Jan 2014 #23
Such good news, Aristus! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #9
Thank you, sheshe2. Aristus Jan 2014 #24
Good news - TBF Jan 2014 #10
Get well soon and thanks for the news report! Hekate Jan 2014 #11
Kick! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #12
Good, but I doubt we will have single payer, (which I want) nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #13
I'm not a pie-in-the-sky optimist, myself. Aristus Jan 2014 #14
Yes, both good examples...here's to another "100th Monkey" event. libdem4life Jan 2014 #15
The trick is "which leaders" jeff47 Jan 2014 #22
A bit more than that, but yes. Chan790 Jan 2014 #25
Very interesting take on the whole thing. I hope you are right about that. loudsue Jan 2014 #28
k&r ZRT2209 Jan 2014 #16
Thank you. Nice to hear about it from this side. Triana Jan 2014 #17
Providing health care for the homeless is a telescoped course in the realities Aristus Jan 2014 #18
I sure hope you are right on the single payer system. It works in different countries and since Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #19
Thanks for the report, Aristus! Happy for you patients. Get well soon, too. freshwest Jan 2014 #20
Mahalo for the exciting news from Cha Jan 2014 #21
Aristus: You made my day. rwork Jan 2014 #26
I feel for you. My father was born and raised in O.K. City. Aristus Jan 2014 #27
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Great news. Glad to see you are not one of those refusing to accept
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jan 2014

exchange policies like some of the right wing physicians and extenders where I live.


Please keep us informed on what is really going on.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
3. I work for a not-for-profit community health organization.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:08 PM
Jan 2014

And specifically, our clinic for homeless patients. If they have insurance, we take it.

All the right-wing "it ain't comin' outta MY taxes!" types would be gratified to know how many patients seeking primary care are staying away from the emergency rooms because they're coming to us for primary health.

That saves the tax payers a shit-ton of money on write-offs by hospitals for uncompensated care.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
5. I am covered, but still scared to see a doctor...been 30 years since I have seen one
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:09 PM
Jan 2014

I am sure there is something wrong with me

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
6. If you're scared to see a doctor, ask for an appointment with a Physician Assistant.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:11 PM
Jan 2014


Or a Nurse Practitioner...

No need to be afraid...

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
7. Make an appointment for a Physical now. When you do, tell the office that you haven't
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:19 PM
Jan 2014

seen a Doctor in 30 years. There is nothing to fear, you have more to fear if you continue with uncertainty.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
9. Such good news, Aristus!
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:29 PM
Jan 2014

Thank you so much for sharing it with us. Three patients go for diagnostic imaging at no out of pocket cost. I'll bet my bottom dollar that it would not have happened without Obamacare!

Excellent news for the New Year!

Feel better Aristus, my Grand Nephew spread his nasty cold to each of us at Christmas. My whole family is sick.


 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. Good, but I doubt we will have single payer, (which I want)
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jan 2014

until well after I kick the bucket, that is at least another generation. The ACA is the stop gap measure to prevent the collapse of the medical system. I might be wrong, but the reasons for that are not something I want to contemplate. Our leaders are too damn stubborn to do anything to appease the people, unless we take up the feathers and the tars, and then it might happen.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
14. I'm not a pie-in-the-sky optimist, myself.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 09:12 PM
Jan 2014

When Barack Obama announced for the Presidency in 2007, I remember thinking: 'Not going to happen. We're still 20 years away from a black President.'

I was wrong.

If a move toward single payer happens with the same sort of unexpected, stunning rapidity as marriage equality, I expect a lot of people to be surprised...

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
22. The trick is "which leaders"
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 12:24 PM
Jan 2014

Washington has lots of Republican power. Some of it caused by institutional crap, and some of it coming from our Constitution - low-pop red states get as much power as high-pop blue states.

The main benefit of the ACA is it moves the healthcare battle from Washington to the states. So you are no longer dealing with federal "leaders". You're dealing with state "leaders".

Red states aren't going to do crap to fix it. But they are also not going to be able to make it much worse.
Blue states are going to go single-payer, or de-facto single-payer via public options. Because the "leaders" there are far more liberal than the federal "leaders".

Success in the blue states will destroy the Republican FUD about single-payer, allowing us to attack it again at the federal level with a much, much stronger position - enough to overcome Washington's Republican bias.

The speed depends on how fast the blue states act. They're stuck waiting until 2017, but I'm guessing we'll have national single-payer or national public-option by 2027.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
25. A bit more than that, but yes.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 01:13 PM
Jan 2014

My family fortunes come from defense manufacturing and there are certain things that cannot and can be produced abroad and then only by certain countries.

At this point, we lose a large chunk of the second group to German manufacturers...why? It's not because the products are better or the materials cheaper or the technicians more skilled or faster. (In fact, the opposite is true. American manufacturers have every advantage of tech, sourcing and skill. Better equipment, better materials cheaper, better workers, better results. By-and-large, the same is true of Northern states over Southern states by account of higher levels of education & training, infrastructure and more accumulated wealth. The advantage that the south used to move jobs was anti-union and anti-environmental policies yielding cheaper workforce and labor protection along with lower regulation.) They simply can quote a much cheaper price for a comparable only-slightly-worse product despite a higher minimum and average wage. So what gives? What is this great advantage that Germany has over US manufacturers? Norway has it too.

The cost of doing business is lower because the single largest non product-dependent expense for American manufacturers is healthcare. German manufacturers and Norwegian manufacturers have a line-item cost of $0 for healthcare. It's paid for by entirely by tax revenues. So when they're bidding for contracts to produce screws or panels or frames, they can quote a lower price because single-payer.

What does this have to do with America? Well...it's funny. All the red states that won't implement single-payer are going to get crushed by the blue states with strong unions and higher wages they took manufacturing jobs from for the last 50 years (thanks to Taft-Hartley and "Right-to-work&quot when those states implement single-payer and their costs drop below what the red states can absorb or screw workers for. It's part of why it's so imperative immediately for the robber-baron class to pass FTAs and break as many unions as possible and screw pensioners out of their pensions and strip away as many union protections as they can ASAP...they're about to find themselves in a position where unless they can offshore those jobs to someplace even cheaper, they'll have to come crawling back to the rust belt and the northeast and California and the same unions and workers they've been fucking over for decades as they relocate their factories to the places with the lowest costs of doing business. Good old "We love the union" Michigan, Ohio, New York and in the case of aerospace...Connecticut and Washington. What comes with that? A shift in demographics as workers move where the jobs are...the great deflation of the south. The loss of GOP power and the ascendancy of the liberal states.

It's permanently a states-right issue and any future solution will have to be done state-by-state and operated by the states...I don't think there can ever be a national solution at this point. That's the legacy of Obamacare...he's put the GOP in a position where adhering to their values destroys them because the more they adhere to those values, the faster they implode as their choice is to renege their values and adopt state-administrated single-payer or hold their values and watch the liberal portions of America ascend over them as we murder conservatism.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
28. Very interesting take on the whole thing. I hope you are right about that.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jan 2014

I would bet that the states where people can get the best health care will start having more & more growth.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
18. Providing health care for the homeless is a telescoped course in the realities
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 11:45 PM
Jan 2014

of life on the streets. A reality the 1% would never in a million years credit, because it tends to go against their treasured misconceptions about the 99%...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
19. I sure hope you are right on the single payer system. It works in different countries and since
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 12:23 AM
Jan 2014

The US has the highest health care rate we must be doing something wrong. In France healthcare on the low side is $10 a month and $30 for a Cadillac plan. RW puts out stories of long lines waiting to get healthcare, the long lines is in the US. A doctors visit in France is around $8. We can do a better job. Insurance companies take lots to run and many working as claims agents, it dies nit happen in countries.

Thanks for your service, we need those dedicated to helping our sick folks.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
20. Thanks for the report, Aristus! Happy for you patients. Get well soon, too.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 12:26 AM
Jan 2014

Got my flu and whooping cough shots this week, so good so far.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
21. Mahalo for the exciting news from
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:46 AM
Jan 2014

the Field, Aristus!

to AppleCare And All the Other CARES! To The People

rwork

(1,596 posts)
26. Aristus: You made my day.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 01:31 PM
Jan 2014

Any OC news here in Okla., is usually negative from our 3 networks. But seeing some improvement.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
27. I feel for you. My father was born and raised in O.K. City.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 01:33 PM
Jan 2014

He couldn't get out of there fast enough. The day he turned 18, he joined the Air Force and left the state forever...

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