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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:40 PM Jan 2014

Green Bay Cold Threatens to Outfreeze NFL Ice Bowl Record

By Mason Levinson - Jan 3, 2014

The Green Bay Packers may be about to host the coldest game in National Football League history, eclipsing their own record set during the 1967 game known as the Ice Bowl.

The coldest air in 18 years might arrive in Wisconsin the night before the Jan. 5 first-round playoff game against the San Francisco 49ers at Lambeau Field, according to Cameron Moreland, chief meteorologist at TV channel NBC 26 in Green Bay. The forecast was a factor in slow ticket sales, according to resellers.

If an Arctic blast reaches the city before the 3:40 p.m. local time kickoff, the temperature will rival that of the Dec. 31, 1967, NFL Championship game between the Packers and the Dallas Cowboys, which started at the same stadium with the temperature at -13 degrees Fahrenheit (-25 Celsius), Moreland said. It felt like -48 degrees Fahrenheit with the wind chill for that game, which Green Bay won 21-17.

“The big question is which one of those computer forecast models are correct,” Moreland said in a telephone interview. “It’s a difference between a cold game and a historically cold game.”

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-03/green-bay-cold-threatens-to-outfreeze-1967-nfl-ice-bowl-record.html

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Green Bay Cold Threatens to Outfreeze NFL Ice Bowl Record (Original Post) Purveyor Jan 2014 OP
GO NINERS!!! BuddhaGirl Jan 2014 #1
Might be a game for the -49ers Blue Owl Jan 2014 #22
Wow. I was at a Packer Game in November of 1976 gopiscrap Jan 2014 #2
I've been to a Packer game that was the other extreme Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #21
I was there with 2 Packer fans...one flew in for the game blueamy66 Jan 2014 #47
If it was a Packer/Bear game I was there too. Greybnk48 Jan 2014 #37
Yup it was a Packer Game!!! gopiscrap Jan 2014 #54
They invented domed stadiums for a reason, cheeseheads NightWatcher Jan 2014 #3
...to make football boring as hell... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #6
I agree. Football was made to be played in the open air. Purveyor Jan 2014 #8
I agree Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #19
Worked so well for the Vikings Blue Owl Jan 2014 #23
Fuck domes BeyondGeography Jan 2014 #26
you cant fuck anything when it's that cold NightWatcher Jan 2014 #29
Global warming, huh? Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #4
They don’t call it the frozen tundra for nothing. Baclava Jan 2014 #5
I couldn't care less if a bunch of millionaires had to play out in freezing temps. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #7
Football is epic AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #15
If not the time taken to inform us. LanternWaste Jan 2014 #34
I didn't see the word "time" in that post. ronnie624 Jan 2014 #43
The interior concourse and bathrooms will be very warm at Lambeau, and Packer fans .... Scuba Jan 2014 #9
They also have huge jet heaters on he field. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #11
The field also has heating coils running underneath it. forthemiddle Jan 2014 #48
Imma be there. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #10
Be safe! Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #40
could you liveblog it for the rest of us? irisblue Jan 2014 #52
I was also at the third coldest in NFL history. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #12
Brutal BobUp Jan 2014 #13
Yeah well, they won because Jerry Kramer was offsides Gman Jan 2014 #14
Still whining after all these years. Scuba Jan 2014 #16
It was a significant emotional event for a 13 YO Gman Jan 2014 #24
I don't like Bart Starr either. Greybnk48 Jan 2014 #45
Ok, I need to know, why? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #46
No, not personal, just judgmental. Greybnk48 Jan 2014 #50
Yeah, I kinda figured he was that way ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #51
He's not like that at all... (the Charlton Heston thing) ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #55
It's not like I hold a grudge or something Gman Jan 2014 #53
Oh FFS! Get over it! Greybnk48 Jan 2014 #38
My father, at the ripe old age of 69, still refuses to get over the Lions ruining ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #41
LOL! Well, I'm 65 and I still hate Fran Tarkenton! Greybnk48 Jan 2014 #44
I cannot, cannot, CANNOT stand Kaepernick... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #56
Amen to both!! n/t Greybnk48 Jan 2014 #66
I am still amused by the Vikings losing four Super Bowls, but my best memory is this... madinmaryland Jan 2014 #61
go pack go ScootersPixiePie Jan 2014 #17
Go with the European model? FrodosPet Jan 2014 #18
That's fuggen inhumane lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #20
As long they're Packer fingers and toes CFLDem Jan 2014 #28
Good luck in the playoffs, Bears!! PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #30
Yeah yeah yeah CFLDem Jan 2014 #31
Jay Cutler signed a 7-yr contract extension with the Bears. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #32
Thanks for reminding me CFLDem Jan 2014 #33
Chicago is as apathetic about QB's as we are dependent upon. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #35
Hey...at least you're not as bad off as the Lions. They had the division ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #36
And the Vikings! forthemiddle Jan 2014 #49
here's hoping the packers take the game warrior1 Jan 2014 #25
"From the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, benld74 Jan 2014 #27
My question is how will the Peckers from Green Bay stay warm??? madinmaryland Jan 2014 #39
GO PACK GO! DemocraticWing Jan 2014 #42
Colin Kaepernick customerserviceguy Jan 2014 #57
Latest weather forecasts say zero at game time. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #58
My Ice Bowl memory Omaha Steve Jan 2014 #59
My father's Ice Bowl story? ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #60
Ya I got a ring too the year after Marta got me the share Omaha Steve Jan 2014 #62
I don't know because I didn't have that kind cash laying around ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #63
Me too Omaha Steve Jan 2014 #64
Packers........Yeah TOAST! BobUp Jan 2014 #65

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
22. Might be a game for the -49ers
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 03:27 PM
Jan 2014

My money's on Green Bay -- you guys got the big win last year!

Should be an exciting game regardless!

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
2. Wow. I was at a Packer Game in November of 1976
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jan 2014

I working for the Lutheran Church and singing at Peace Lutheran in Green Bay. Some folks who were in the congregation couldn't go that Sunday and they were kind enough to give us their tickets. Being from Frankfurt, Germany and Tacoma, Washington I was used to a pretty moderate climate. I had never felt such cold before. It was astonishing. It's gonna be important for folks to use their heads and think about personal safety. Dress warmly, lay off the alcohol and if you feel like you're getting too cold, get outa there! It's only a game! Your limbs will thank you for it!

Packerowner740

(676 posts)
21. I've been to a Packer game that was the other extreme
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 03:25 PM
Jan 2014

Arizona, 108 outdoors in August. I don't know how the players did it.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
37. If it was a Packer/Bear game I was there too.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:09 AM
Jan 2014

It was as cold or colder than the ice bowl! They said the Packer band couldn't play for the first time ever because their instruments were sticking to their lips. Some poor slob came out at half time and tried to juggle swords, LOL! After a minute or two he gave up thankfully.

I set a glass of beer on the ground to fix up my sleeping bag that I was wearing over a snowmobile suit and when I reached back down to get it, it was frozen! I didn't bother with any more ( I didn't want to have to pee anyway). I got a bit of a wind burn on my cheeks and they had been covered by a scarf. It was brutal.

Why go? The tickets were free from our employer (who was not dumb enough to go) and we were young so off we went.

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
54. Yup it was a Packer Game!!!
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jan 2014

I was 18 at the time and didn't care how cold it was. It was the first major league game of any sports that I ever I got to see in person. (I had only been in the US five years) There was no way I wasn't going to go. Now at my age, fuck that...I'll watch it in the warmth and comfort of my own home.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
7. I couldn't care less if a bunch of millionaires had to play out in freezing temps.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:55 PM
Jan 2014

My sympathies are used up elsewhere.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
15. Football is epic
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 03:08 PM
Jan 2014

....and as such has my full sympathy, especially for the fans that are at the game...the players have heaters and stuff.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. If not the time taken to inform us.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jan 2014

"My sympathies are used up elsewhere..."

If not the time taken to inform us.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
43. I didn't see the word "time" in that post.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 05:08 AM
Jan 2014

There are few things I find more repellent than football , but this news item is interesting.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
9. The interior concourse and bathrooms will be very warm at Lambeau, and Packer fans ....
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:55 PM
Jan 2014

... in their seats will be squished together, sharing body heat with their newest best friends. If they get too cold, they can walk into the concourse and warm themselves.

Players, coaches, officials, chain-gang members, ball boys, security, photographers and others are at far greater risk. Fortunately, they're pros and know how to take care of themselves.

Several players from both Dallas and Green Bay suffered frostbite during the Ice Bowl. I don't see that recurring.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
48. The field also has heating coils running underneath it.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jan 2014

For the fans it might be another "Ice Bowl" but for the players, technology is MUCH improved over 1967.

Having said that, it still is going to be awful cold, and I am not sure that the Packers have that much of an advantage. Let's face it, none of the players grew up in this weather, and NONE of them have ever played in this cold of weather.
There is a huge difference in single digits, and -47 degrees with windchill.

I will be home in my mid Wisconsin home, in front of my 60 inch TV, with a micro brew in hand yelling "GO 49ers!!!!!!"

Gman

(24,780 posts)
24. It was a significant emotional event for a 13 YO
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jan 2014

My first experience with utter disappointment. I still don't like Bart Starr.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
50. No, not personal, just judgmental.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jan 2014

I don't hate him, and we support his Rawhide Foundation and have donated several cars.

He is a super right-winger who has campaigned outside of Lambeau in the parking lot several times over the years most recently for Romney.

He's also an evangelical Christian and talks Godie God talk often during interviews, yet routinely supports the most vile, right wing, mean spirited asshole politicians out there. Romney was nothing new.

In person I find him to be a cold fish. Caveat: I don't know the guy; I've met him twice around town. He just seems very polite and very cold, like Charlton Heston.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
51. Yeah, I kinda figured he was that way
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jan 2014

It's things like that is why I try not to find out too much about Dan Marino.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
55. He's not like that at all... (the Charlton Heston thing)
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 12:37 PM
Jan 2014

and his wife Cherry was the sweetest woman I have ever been lucky to spend a half hour talking with. She's hilarious and fun.

He seems to be a bit socially awkward and he is a right-winger, but I am able to separate people from politics.

I am a diehard Packer fan and used to battle my father all the time over who was better-- Farvre or Starr. My dad was right.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
41. My father, at the ripe old age of 69, still refuses to get over the Lions ruining
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 04:00 AM
Jan 2014

the Packers perfect season in 1962.

And, on edit, I refuse to get over the 1998 playoffs. Stupid San Francisco and that stupid noncall on a freaking fumble.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
44. LOL! Well, I'm 65 and I still hate Fran Tarkenton!
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 10:17 AM
Jan 2014

Just on general principle. Kaepernick reminds me of him so I seethe during 49'er games.

ScootersPixiePie

(20 posts)
17. go pack go
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 03:15 PM
Jan 2014

It was great sitting in my Chicago area home watching the Pack come into the bear den and spank em. San Francisco -- bu-bye!!

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
18. Go with the European model?
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 03:21 PM
Jan 2014

I've read that it is slower and more expensive, but supposedly more accurate.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
20. That's fuggen inhumane
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jan 2014



Look for broken fingers and toes. They will get brittle
in temps like that even with gloves and thick socks.


PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
32. Jay Cutler signed a 7-yr contract extension with the Bears.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jan 2014

In related news, the Packers will make the playoffs the next 7 years!

I lived in Chicago burbs for many years so I know a lot of youse.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
35. Chicago is as apathetic about QB's as we are dependent upon.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 04:14 PM
Jan 2014

It's weird!

It's a fun rivalry, though and I adore my flat-lander friends despite their horrible taste in football teams.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
36. Hey...at least you're not as bad off as the Lions. They had the division
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jan 2014

handed to them this year and they still didn't want it.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
58. Latest weather forecasts say zero at game time.
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 02:59 PM
Jan 2014

The insane cold will come a few hours later. Monday is supposed to have a high of -8.

Omaha Steve

(99,582 posts)
59. My Ice Bowl memory
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 03:34 PM
Jan 2014

Ice Bowl video at the bottom of this post.

For the record, Marta got me one share of Packer stock for Christmas a couple years ago.

The one gift I wanted for Christmas in 1967 was a mini-bike. That was all I asked for over and over. It was my Red Ryder obsession. Like the Red Ryder "shoot your eye out", mom was afraid I'd break my neck. Christmas morning 1967 I couldn't wait to get to the tree.

I was one month short of being 11 years old. The wrapping didn't look big enough to be a mini-bike. The BIG moment. Tear off the paper. I discovered a 19 inch black and white TV on a portable stand. The thrill of victory and agony of defeat in the same moment. While I was let down a bit about no bike, it hit me NONE of my friends had their own TV in their own room.

On Dec 31st of 1967 I didn't go to grandpa's house (the Pack was his team) two homes away to watch the Pack with him in color. I stayed home in my room and watch the "Ice Bowl" in my warm room.

About 1996 I was telling this story to a co-worker. She said her husband and a friend of his had gone to that game. I was so jealous.

And now you know my Ice Bowl story. GO PACK GO!!!

My son and I at Arrowhead Stadium two years ago for the packer game.



Ice Bowl video:


ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
60. My father's Ice Bowl story?
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 03:44 PM
Jan 2014

His parents-in-law talked him in to driving up to Ettrick to visit "the folks."

Anyone who know Ettrick, WI, knows that "the folks" are pretty much the only population that Ettrick had in 1967.

He ran to the gas station to get milk for my great grandmother (I was yet to be born but my brother was 5 months old). The car's battery died a frozen death. My father sat in the warm shop office hooting and hollering with the attendant. To his credit he did call, but didn't deal with the issue until after the famous Wedge--lying (sort of) and saying they were having "issues." Apparently, no one spoke to him the entire drive home. My mother's family was farm people who didn't take much to football and other foolery at the time.

My brother and my nephew at that ill-fated playoff game in Arizona:




On the positive, they got to sit with Clay Matthews' family (that's who took the picture - I believe it was his mom).

We bought my dad stock for Christmas when they opened it back up in the 90s for the first renovation. He votes on every ballot. He, however, does not cotton to the fact that my brother blew $500 on a Stockholder Super Bowl ring back in 2011.

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