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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHarvard-educated lawyer Ted Cruz can't figure out how to renounce Canadian citizenship
That's confounding Canadian immigration lawyers. Renouncing Canadian citizenship, they say, is a simple, quick and straightforward process there's even an online, four-page PDF form on the Government of Canada website to get the ball rolling without the help of lawyers.
"Unless there's a security issue that hasn't been disclosed, unless there's a mental health issue that hasn't been disclosed, there's no reason for anything other than a lickety-split process to occur," Richard Kurland, a Vancouver-based immigration attorney, said in an interview Friday.
Canada's best-known citizenship renouncer, Conrad Black, said in an email Friday that it "doesn't take long" for the revocation process to work.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ted-cruz-still-canadian-as-immigration-lawyers-express-confusion-1.2483367
Whole article is good reading
louis-t
(23,199 posts)with both hands.
abakan
(1,815 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)oh never mind!
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)had I finished spelling it.
BTW welcome to DU
underpants
(182,276 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)...couldn't figure out how to fill out a simple disclosure form.
Thomas has amended his disclosure forms to correct the omissions and has claimed that he misunderstood how to fill out the forms. But Common Cause noticed that Thomas had actually filled the forms out properly for many years before he suddenly stopped recording his wife's employers. "There is now more than enough evidence to merit a formal inquiry as to whether Justice Thomas willfully failed to make legally required disclosures, perhaps for as long as 13 years," Common Cause president Bob Edgar said in a statement. "Given that we now know he correctly completed the reports in prior years, it's hardly plausibleindeed it's close to unbelievablethat Justice Thomas did not understand the instructions."
Mother Jones
check out the chart!
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)When Cruz was born, there were certain requirements of the US citizen parent to be able to pass on citizenship to a child not born on American soil, if only one of the parents was a US citizen. Perhaps, for one reason or another, his mother has been unable to provide the required documents.
According to Canada's immigration laws, they aren't able to remove Canadian citizenship without first ensuring the person is a legal citizen of another country.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...what do they do when the error is revealed?
I mean, if all of Cruz's mothers required documentation had been furnished at the time Cruz applied for a SS card and whatnot, there would be a record of that, right? A record that could be pretty easily presented to Canadian authorities, no? So what's the problem here? Did she never provide that documentation (meaning Cruz was granted citizenship erroneously)? Or did US immigration and the family both lose it?
treestar
(82,383 posts)If he has one, then he and Mom proved it up. If he doesn't, right, he should make sure he can establish that he is a U.S. citizen first.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)I presume this travel required a passport. I've read he received a passport while he was in high school.
That should be sufficient for the Canadian officials, right? So what's the delay in Cruz submitting the paperwork? Baffling.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Maybe Cruz wants to make it look like it's hard so he can prove how Amurkan he really is.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)You could start with, say, the Ted Cruz wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz
It has links to all sorts of information. Such as footnote #10:
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...Particularly if someone raises it as a primary issue against him? I'm just curious why he's stalling with renouncing, that's all.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)And it really doesn't matter just what crazy ideas they have. Courts will throw their suits out, and then fine them. Just like Taitz.
tanyev
(42,360 posts)They probably won't take his phone calls.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)course didn't they one time educate the preachers of Salem? And of course they had something to do with educating W.
panader0
(25,816 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)as a real mental health issue. So he should be ok.
erronis
(14,952 posts)Along with all the other shit that parodies as real maladies in psych...
Bat Fecal psychoses:
Manifestations of erratic behavior and thought especially when combined with limited intelligence. This has been observed in animals caged under a belfry or in certain primates with low IQ and conservative tendencies.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)and quickly allow him to renounce his citizenship by yelling beetle juice, beetle juice, beetle juice.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Someone can remind him that he has some paperwork to fill out.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)For the most part, it seems like all he would have to do is fill out a few pages of forms and send a photocopy of his birth certificate and his passport along with some cash. Why he is dragging his feet on this and allowing it to pop up again and again in the news is beyond me.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)his followers will NOT do that simple google search. It confirms that Canada sucks. Like all things Canadian, like oh socialized medicine, they make it IMPOSSIBLE I tell you to give up their damn citizenship. I am sure taxes are somewhere in there.
herding cats
(19,549 posts)It's all right there if you just read between the lines. After seeing his performance as a US Republican Senator they realized there is no way he could be sane. In other news; all Canadian/United States Dual citizens who reside in Texas will now be subject to mental screening before they are allowed to renounce their Canadian citizenship.
Packerowner740
(676 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)"Refudiate" is not a word we can accept, eh?
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)He doesn't really want to give it up.
Or, maybe he is so damn stupid he can't figure it out. If that's the case, Harvard lets a lot of people pass on "Gentleman's C's".
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Gotta love it
pangaia
(24,324 posts)".....................unless there's a mental health issue that hasn't been disclosed, there's no reason for anything other than a lickety-split process to occur,"
dchill
(38,321 posts)after he becomes President...
evilhime
(326 posts)He doesn't want to give up single payer healthcare . In case he needs it he doesn't want to rely on US insurance companies...
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,281 posts)He wants to find the most melodramatic time and place to do it.
JBoy
(8,021 posts)Why do it simply when there might be a way to get mileage from it.
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)Ted Cruz still has duel citizenship. Someone is wondering why.U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz vowed months ago to renounce his Canadian citizenship by the end of 2013, but the Calgary-born Republican is still a dual citizen.
Cruz, 43, recently said in an interview with the Dallas Morning News that lawyers are preparing the paperwork to renounce citizenship, just as he said in August.
Richard Kurland, a Vancouver-based immigration attorney, wonders whats taking so long. Kurland said Friday that unless theres a security or mental health issue that hasnt been disclosed, renouncing citizenship is a simple, quick process.
Well, there ya go.