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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI frequently tell fellow Jews that the GOP is no friend to us. Theyre after Sandra Fluke's Jewish BF
and the anti-semitic rants are flying
http://angryblacklady.com/2012/03/15/sandra-flukes-boyfriend-is-the-jewwiest-jew-that-ever-did-jew/
The mini-Breitbarts are ass-deep in the Fluke Countertops Inspection Extravaganza and its not going so well. Nary a granite countertop has been found, but never fear! The idiot bloggers at The Graph have uncovered mind-bottling skullduggery: Ms. Flukes boyfriends countertops are Jewish.
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In summary (with bold for emphatic inflection): Sandra Fluke is a 30 year old leftist activist, attending Georgetown University, whom the Dems tried to inject, via non-sequitur, into Issas hearing about Obamacares encroachment upon religious freedoms, protected by the Establishment Clause in the 1st Amendment. Her boyfriend, Adam Mutterperl, is the son of one of the most well-connected leftist Jewish families on the East Coast (add the West Coast to that, apparently), with ties to neo-Marxist Brandeis University as decades old donors
and whose father, Bill Mutterperl, worked directly for Paul Volcker, one of Obamas pals, advisors, and Keynesian stimulus bill architects. Yet, were supposed to believe that this just boils down to a poor girl needing us to subsidize her birth control. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!
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and from the website to which the folks at the angryblacklady blog are referring ( http://thegraph.com/2012/03/sandra-flukes-boyfriend/?tw_p=twt ) :
(Transcript of the video clip: Whats your name
Allison
Youre like New York Jewish, left-wing, intellectual, Central Park West, Brandeis University, socialist summer camps and the father with the Ben Shahn drawings, really strike-oriented. Stop me before I make a complete imbecile of myself
No, that was wonderful! I love being reduced to a cultural stereotype.)
Allens description probably describes Adams childhood, right down to the Ben Shahn drawings. I wonder if Adam has ever been to a kibbutz.
The Mutterperl family, via Adams great grandfather Sols handbag fortune, established the Mutterperl Scholarship Endowment Fund in 1951 for Brandeis University. This school, as some people call it, is named for Louis Brandeis, a secular Jew, Zionist, and United States Supreme Court Justice appointed by Woodrow Wilson. Brandeis was a self-proclaimed socialist. Herbert Marcuse, the famous Frankfurt School Marxist, came to Brandeis in 1954, three years after the Mutterperl fund was created. Brandeis University is one of the nations leading petri dishes for anti-American and neo-Marxist thought. Heres the statement from the Brandeis bulletin about the Mutterperl fund:
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I checked, the article from the right wing website thegraph.com contains 37 matches to words beginning in 'Jew'. All this to attack Sandra Fluke's boyfriend because she wanted healthcare.
I frequently tell fellow Jews, do not be fooled by GOP/Conservative declarations of support for Israel. The GOP are not the friends of Jews. Like all right wing parties and movements, racism, religiocentrism and xenophobia are there even if not overtly displayed. The moment it becomes convenient, out comes the anti-semitism.
blm
(113,047 posts).
freshwest
(53,661 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)He won 80% of the Jewish vote in 2008, and I frankly doubt it will be much different this time. Jewish Republicans exist, but they are a scarcity.
I have to laugh at "neo-Marxist" Brandeis stuff. How typical. Because Marcuse taught there in the 1950s?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)the mindless constant droning of the right wing mediasphere that Obama is against Israel is having an effect. I cannot say how much at this point but there is a layer of suspicion there regarding the President that was not there in 2008.
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)educate, inform, and support those who fight the battles against such bigorty and hate. Raising children to respect, love, and care about fellow human beings is the only cure.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)is a running push poll against the President.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)and hasten the Rapture.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)all those pesky Jews that don't convert will burn in the fahrs of Hay-ull.
The talibangelical Repukes love Israel for their own purposes, but don't have much use for the Jewish people.
RZM
(8,556 posts)I think support for Israel, even on the right, is based less on this and more on factors that have little to do with Christianity, let alone the rapture.
First there's the birth of the state and the legacy of the Holocaust. The US contributed much to the victory in Europe and that is a still a source of great pride in this country. There was a lot of sympathy with Europe's Jewish population after the war, which is one reason the US recognized Israel so quickly. The Holocaust is still a salient historical memory and it is tied in with the birth and continuing existence of Israel as a state with a Jewish character.
Israel is pretty Western and has a lot of connections with the United States. It's a real Democracy in a sea of non-Democracies. Plus, Judaism and Jews are more associated with America than Islam is, so there's a degree of cultural familiarity not shared with states that predominantly Muslim.
It's also a strong strategic ally. It's got a powerful military and nuclear weapons. You could strip everything else away and that alone would be an argument for support. If you're going to hitch your wagon to a state in the ME, it makes sense to do so with a powerful one.
It's scrappy. Israel has consistently wiped up the desert with its opponents in the various foreign wars it has fought. That counts for something. People like the underdog - it's not a coincidence, for instance, that world opinion was overwhelmingly on the side of Finland during the Winter War with the USSR in 1939-1940.
So yes, the religion thing does matter. But really, most of the reasons the right supports Israel aren't really all that different than the reasons the left and center in this country do so as well.
RZM
(8,556 posts)Anti-Semitism is still there, of course. It will always be there, unfortunately. But the old days of it being a RW thing are pretty much gone, IMO. I would actually argue that nowadays, it is mostly filtered through issues relating to Israel, which is probably the dominant theme regarding Jews and Judaism in contemporary discourse.
Opposing Israeli policies (and even it's existence as a Jewish state) does not automatically make one anti-Semitic. And being a supporter of Israel does not automatically exclude one from being anti-Semitic either. But nonetheless there are correlations. And this is where the wrench is thrown in, because in the US, at least, opposition to Israel tends to be associated mainly with the left, while support for Israel is broad across the political spectrum, but probably strongest on the right (save for some libertarians and paleocons, who are relatively small in number). If you accept my argument that Israel is the issue that gentiles most associate with Jews and Judaism, then certainly you can't argue it's a RW thing (or really a LW thing either, since support for Israel is still pretty strong there too).
'Classic' anti-Semtism (Jews control things from behind the scenes, run world finance, carried out 9/11 etc.) is thankfully regarded as bullshit and people who say such things usually are drummed out of polite society. It's been relegated to the fringes where it belongs.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)This article makes it clear that it is something about Fluke's boyfriend being Jewish that is bad. That by itself implies all of what you wrote about in your last paragraph regarding 'Classic' anti-Semitism. If you check out what websites/groups like Stormfront and other neo-Nazi and hategroups say about Jews, its pretty close to what thegraph.com says, that Jews are responsible for Communism and Socialism, etc. Of course those groups include the conspiracy theories that Jews control banking and media and governments and all the rest in their standard propaganda literature, but the idea that Jews are behind the genesis of Socialism and Communism is right out of the Neo-Nazi playbook.
I believe that underlying all of what Republicans say about Israel in order to improve their percentage of the Jewish vote, there is still a lot of that old classic anti-semitism.
RZM
(8,556 posts)Not much, IMO. Yes, it's pretty much anti-Semitic bullshit. But is it evidence of larger themes and trends on the right? I've heard a whole lot of people on the right disparage communism and socialism. I've heard very few of them do so in anti-Semitic terms. I think that kind of thing was a lot more common 50 years ago. It still happens, but it's pretty rare nowadays. This kind of thing is pretty much the outlier. The vast majority of right wing criticism of the left lacks an anti-Semitic component.
Like I said, I really do think Israel has changed the game. In the 1930s there was no Israel and communism was a big story. Now there is (almost) no communism and Israel is the big story.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Specifically, a negative reaction that causes them to take it down. It's going to be interesting to watch.
RZM
(8,556 posts)The graph is one of many thousands of sites people can get political commentary. It probably reaches very few people. Most people on the right and left have never heard of it. I certainly hadn't heard of it.
I don't think there's an expectation that opinions posted on blogs merit a rebuttal or even a notice by anybody with a national voice. It's way too much to keep track of. If that were the case, you'd see DU and Free Republic mentioned all the time. Yet they are rarely talked about even though both are far larger and more influential than the graph.
Tveil
(108 posts)By Israelis,the right and American Jews. So it is a complicated matter.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)this isn't about you.
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)I don't have the finely-tuned radar my parents did when it comes to anti-Semitism, but I know dog-whistles when I see them -- as well as attempts to preemptively counter dog-whistles.
As one example of the latter, I initially wondered why the background blurb on Goldman Sachs whistleblower Greg Smith went out of its way to specify that he'd won a bronze metal at a table tennis tournament in Israel. Then I noticed that the two people Smith singled out as having created the toxic climate there were Blankfein and Cohn -- and it immediately hit me that the blurb-writer was trying to tell us that despite his name Smith is also Jewish, so that the infighting at Goldman Sachs shouldn't be taken as some neo-Nazi narrative of upright goyish whistleblower vs. corrupt Jews.
There's a Reuters article on Smith that seems intended to reinforce the same message:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/15/goldman-sachs-greg-smith_n_1346808.html
Greg Smith was a principled and competitive student, the kind of person whose strong sense of right and wrong probably pushed him to resign from Goldman Sachs in a scathing letter to an international newspaper, his former teacher and coach said.
A quiet, unassuming child, the South African first attended the private Jewish King David's High School in suburban Johannesburg before winning a scholarship to Stanford University in the United States. . . .
"He was a remarkable young man, exceptionally intelligent with an integrity that is probably unequalled," Elliot Wolf, the school's retired headmaster, told Reuters in an interview. . . .
Rainer Sztab, chair of the Gauteng Maccabi Table Tennis Club, where Smith played in South Africa regularly in the 1990s when he was a teenager, remembered him as an "outstanding kid". "He was a stand-up kid, he always did what was right," Sztab told Reuters.
These sorts of covert battles are very under-the-radar, so you have to be sensitive to them to see what's really happening. But once you pick up on the fact that the underlying story line is no different than it was in the 1930's -- that Jews are outsiders who are trying to corrupt America and/or destroy Western civilization, with the bankers and the leftists working hand-in-hand -- it kind of jumps out at you.
For instance, "East Coast elites," "liberal elites," "Hollywood elites," and "New York City" can -- in the proper context -- all be taken as meaning "Jews." Right-wing accusations that someone is a socialist or a communist also frequently have an anti-Semitic subtext, and this is one reason why the Glenn Beck crowd has gone out of its way to demonize left-wing Jews like Saul Alinsky and Frances Fox Piven.
My parents lived through this crap the first time round, in the 1930's -- and they and their friends were quite ready to believe that the execution of the Rosenbergs in the early 50's meant that it was all about to start up again in this country under the guise of anti-communism. That never happened, perhaps because Joe McCarthy got slapped down so hard at the Army-McCarthy hearings. But it also never quite went away, and now it seems to be coming back round in a particularly nasty form.
LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)that for minority group members, including Jews, to vote for a right-wing party is like turkeys voting for a Christmas party.
Same goes for women - and of course Sandra Fluke is here being treated to both misogyny AND antisemitism.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)First all my Jewish friends are strong Democrats
Two, one of my friends made a remark which is fitting for this thread which basically is aimed at conservative fears that their children are going to get hooked up with a Jew.
He said, "that Christian Mingle commercial really irritates me, what are they afraid of, a Jewish blow job?".
jillan
(39,451 posts)And reformed Jews, like myself, scratch their heads and wonder why?
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)He kind of winked at me and said "On the inside,we vote blue"
They know.