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alp227

(32,006 posts)
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 08:47 PM Jan 2014

New Virginia Bill Would Make Oral Sex Between 17-Year-Olds A Felony

A new Virginia bill would bring back much of Virginia’s infamous “Crimes Against Nature” law, months after federal courts struck down the law as unconstitutional. The proposal, which ostensibly would change the law to make clear that “engaging in consensual sodomy is not a crime if all persons participating are adults, are not in a public place, and are not committing, attempting to commit, conspiring to commit, aiding, or abetting any act in furtherance of prostitution,” would restore felony penalties for minors engaging in oral sex and treat public sodomy differently from other public sex acts.

In 2003, the U.S. Supreme Court’s Lawrence v. Texas ruling held that states may not ban private non-commercial sex between consenting adults. Virginia’s Crimes Against Nature statute, which made oral and anal sex (even between consenting married couples) a felony, was clearly the sort of legislation the Court was referencing. Efforts to amend the law to bring it into compliance with the Supreme Court’s ruling were blocked by anti-LGBT legislators who preferred to keep the unconstitutional law on the books. When a prosecutor used a provision of the law to convict a 47-year-old male for asking a 17-year-old female for oral sex, the defendant successfully challenged the conviction by arguing the statute wholly unconstitutional. After a series of unsuccessful appeals by Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli II (R), the law remains on the books but unusable.

Senate Bill 14, authored by State Sen. Thomas A. Garrett (R), would “amend and reenact” the law, attempting to use the old law’s language to continue prosecuting cases of anyone who commits “crimes against nature” in public, with minors, with animals, or for money. As a result, this bill would allow oral and anal sex between consenting adults (in the privacy of their own homes) — but would still treat any oral and anal sex in those categories differently from vaginal intercourse, thereby continuing to unfairly distinguish same-sex sexual behavior for harsher punishment.

Back before the courts ruled the old language unconstitutional, LGBT and civil liberties advocates backed the incremental step of amending the law to protect consenting gay and straight adult couples from prosecution for their sexual relationships. But now that the Crimes Against Nature statute has been rendered unenforceable, this new version would represent a step backwards.

full: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2014/01/08/3133011/virginia-sodomy/

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New Virginia Bill Would Make Oral Sex Between 17-Year-Olds A Felony (Original Post) alp227 Jan 2014 OP
Well that blows n/t mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #1
Smarty pants.>)))))) pangaia Jan 2014 #5
I prefer the term mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #10
I'll drink to that. pangaia Jan 2014 #11
Oooh, now I want a beer and I'm still at work mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #13
That depends on your perspective.... RoccoR5955 Jan 2014 #12
It all comes down to a minus sign mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #14
It's D.O.A. William769 Jan 2014 #2
Wonder how much time these old guys were busy "contemplating" 17 years oral sex Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #3
Wow, I would have been locked up as a teenager Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #4
Additional article on link below Tx4obama Jan 2014 #6
17? That's pretty old for that kinda thing, dontcha think. pangaia Jan 2014 #7
Calling it "sodomy"... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #8
I almost hope they pass it just so McAuliffe can veto it Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #9
More important than McAuliffe vetoing the bill. If the Democrat continues to lead in bluestate10 Jan 2014 #15
The sex life of some of these legislators must be.... Bigmack Jan 2014 #16
I see that the kind of sex that turns teens into parents is still completely legal jmowreader Jan 2014 #17
This would have sucked if I'd lived in Virginia when I was 17. DemocraticWing Jan 2014 #18
Oh good grief.... ohheckyeah Jan 2014 #19
Why don't they just make the law forbid Lawmakers having sex with BootinUp Jan 2014 #20

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
13. Oooh, now I want a beer and I'm still at work
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:42 PM
Jan 2014

Well, having a job is cool (and this job is really cool).

Packerowner740

(676 posts)
4. Wow, I would have been locked up as a teenager
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jan 2014

Back then though I was more worried about a pregnancy. I wasn't ready to be a father at 17.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
9. I almost hope they pass it just so McAuliffe can veto it
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jan 2014

Sometimes I think some of these crazies must secretly be working for the Democrats, they sure do like to give us material to use against them in campaign ads.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
15. More important than McAuliffe vetoing the bill. If the Democrat continues to lead in
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:52 PM
Jan 2014

a State Senate seat and win it, the bill will die in the Virginia Senate.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
19. Oh good grief....
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:52 AM
Jan 2014

like teenagers never do anything illegal. Sometimes it's so embarrassing to live in Virginia.

BootinUp

(47,085 posts)
20. Why don't they just make the law forbid Lawmakers having sex with
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 12:56 AM
Jan 2014

17 year olds. Lets just cut out the BS and get right to the problem, lol.

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