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struggle4progress

(118,228 posts)
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 04:49 PM Jan 2014

"So soon?" she says with surprise. The librarian has just told us our time is up.

I started tutoring her when she was in fifth or sixth grade. It was a delight to work with her back then: she was bright and enthusiastic, and it went well. As she progressed through middle school, she might have decided girls weren't supposed to be smart, and our sessions tapered off

Her mom started telling me she'd developed an attitude. I wouldn't see that when I ran into her now and then, but maybe it's because I always still saw the smart little girl who'd charmed me so much in the past

She's in high school now. About a year ago, she let me know she'd flunked math. I made sure she knew I'd be happy to resume our tutoring sessions. She repeatedly said she'd call but never did. This year, she's been sick quite a lot. The school district finally put her into an at-home program

Her mom called last night to ask if I could tutor her today

So we meet at the library this morning and book a study room for an hour to go over some of her problems with math. She still seems bright and alert to me

Suddenly the librarian appears to tell us our hour is up: the next group with room reservations has arrived

"So soon?" the girl says. She sounds genuinely surprised, and she's not ready for the session to end. We sneak to a table elsewhere in the library and continue our work in hushed voices. Sometime later her mother appears to reclaim her. The girl herself sets up another session with me for tomorrow afternoon. Then she grabs all the paper I've used to illustrate our discussion and shoves it into her backpack

I say hi to her younger sister. I tutored her a few times, too. A few years ago, as we walked by the stacks after one of her sessions, she'd told me she thought some of the books in the library were very hard, and I'd told her she'd be able to read them if she practiced. She's a seventh-grader now, and she carries in her arms several thick volumes she's just checked out. I think she's become a reader. She beams at me

Driving home in the pouring rain, I figure life is pretty good: the high school girl, who has an attitude and recently flunked math, thinks our math tutoring session was over too much soon and wants more




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"So soon?" she says with surprise. The librarian has just told us our time is up. (Original Post) struggle4progress Jan 2014 OP
this gives me hope n/t NMDemDist2 Jan 2014 #1
kids can do that to us, if we give them the chance struggle4progress Jan 2014 #5
First... thank you... CherokeeDem Jan 2014 #2
the key to reaching kids, i think, is to take them seriously, and it helps a lot struggle4progress Jan 2014 #7
I feel bad for teachers; they have to teach to a stupid test, they have to teach shit their charges MADem Jan 2014 #30
THANK YOU! elleng Jan 2014 #3
i wouldn't do it if i didn't enjoy it struggle4progress Jan 2014 #8
Of course, elleng Jan 2014 #14
Good for you. panader0 Jan 2014 #4
maybe we should all say "good for her" struggle4progress Jan 2014 #10
You must be a terriffic teacher. Much luck to you and she..n/t monmouth3 Jan 2014 #6
or it could be that she's in a good place right now and easy to work with struggle4progress Jan 2014 #12
Nice story! nt goldent Jan 2014 #9
+1 Rex Jan 2014 #29
The right teacher at the right time can save a life. That's just what you're doing. mountain grammy Jan 2014 #11
i'd really like to see her succeed struggle4progress Jan 2014 #19
Agreed. tecelote Jan 2014 #27
:) BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #13
Nice! I wish I could do what you are doing bhikkhu Jan 2014 #15
My mom is a phenomenal math teacher. However, when she was helping as a "mom", it was NO help. glowing Jan 2014 #20
I end up tutoring all of our friends' kids in math eggplant Jan 2014 #31
Great story Gothmog Jan 2014 #16
Thank you. Thor_MN Jan 2014 #17
As the son of an elementary school teacher I love this story. nt TeamPooka Jan 2014 #18
Most kids want to learn... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #21
yes, i think most kids want to learn struggle4progress Jan 2014 #45
I agree that most children want to learn and, most importantly, they need an Nay Jan 2014 #49
Great post... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #51
wonderful thread... she is ready to turn the page... keep in touch with her! secondwind Jan 2014 #22
i'll do my best, but it's really up to her struggle4progress Jan 2014 #34
I've felt that as a tutor Android3.14 Jan 2014 #23
it's a great feeling when it works struggle4progress Jan 2014 #33
Good teachers are priceless. another_liberal Jan 2014 #24
Wonderful! We Duval Jan 2014 #25
You are a gem! Isn't it great when the student "gets it"? rurallib Jan 2014 #26
those are wonderful stories! struggle4progress Jan 2014 #35
Just finished a visit with our young man headed to Des Moines rurallib Jan 2014 #37
! struggle4progress Jan 2014 #38
Some of the best words I've heard in a long time, WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2014 #28
K&R Fumesucker Jan 2014 #32
I used to volunteer in my small town library. MineralMan Jan 2014 #36
excellent! struggle4progress Jan 2014 #39
Helping kids is always a positive thing to do. MineralMan Jan 2014 #48
k and r--for you, and for the others on this thread, who are making a real difference in young niyad Jan 2014 #40
Are you a retired teacher? senseandsensibility Jan 2014 #41
Class size really matters. I taught college-level math. With a class of twelve or fifteen, struggle4progress Jan 2014 #43
great story Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #42
K&R El_Johns Jan 2014 #44
This gave me chills! Iris Jan 2014 #46
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #47
Way cool catbyte Jan 2014 #50
That just gave me goosebumps. TxDemChem Jan 2014 #52
YOU are changing a life. Or two. Or ten. Or a hundred. Squinch Jan 2014 #53

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
2. First... thank you...
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jan 2014

for taking time to tutor... very noble.

As another poster said, this gives me hope, but it also makes we wonder. Apparently, no one else has been able to reach her and engage her in learning. While I have nothing but admiration for those who teach, I wonder if she has been slighted by not having teachers who could reach her.

So glad you can.

Wish you both luck....

struggle4progress

(118,228 posts)
7. the key to reaching kids, i think, is to take them seriously, and it helps a lot
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 05:16 PM
Jan 2014

if they know you like them

this girl knows i like her

and since she was in elementary school, i've insisted on beginning and ending our tutoring sessions by shaking hands: i've never said a word about the handshake, but i've always proffered my hand, and at some point years ago she started beating me to the proffer. it says "i take you seriously" and then we can discuss the topic at hand

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. I feel bad for teachers; they have to teach to a stupid test, they have to teach shit their charges
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jan 2014

should have learned at home; their student-teacher ratio is often absurd; they have to buy their own materials, and they get crapped on by administrators and (GOP) public officials who think the answer is charter schools where spanking is allowed.

I'd like to see a national standard for schools. It shouldn't matter if you are in zip code 90210 or 48204--you should get the same quality of education, with the emphasis on QUALITY.

I don't mind "holding a teacher's feet to the fire" so long as that teacher has the wherewithal--the tools and time to teach, to include lessons that aren't from the middle of the last century, an appropriate student-teacher ratio, not having to put up with misbehavers, and the support of the public officials. They shouldn't have to plead to get parent volunteers, or prostitute themselves with pleas that people shop at X supermart so that they'll get fifty bucks towards pencils and paper.

A kid like this one, if she was having trouble in a small class, I think should be pulled aside and given an opportunity to express her concerns--not to the teacher, but to a third party. If she's not getting it, and everyone else is, maybe she learns differently and needs one-on-one or a smaller class or a slower pace.

struggle4progress

(118,228 posts)
10. maybe we should all say "good for her"
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 05:23 PM
Jan 2014

as a high schooler, she could have all kinds of reactions besides "i want to learn more"

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
27. Agreed.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:47 PM
Jan 2014

It's easy for high school kids to feel overlooked or left out by their regular teachers.

One strong attentive tutor can change everything.

The new knowledge and confidence gained from the tutor gets recognized in school and their whole world improves.

bhikkhu

(10,711 posts)
15. Nice! I wish I could do what you are doing
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jan 2014

but my kids tell me that when I try to explain math to them they go away more confused and frustrated than they started. I suppose there is talent involved.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
20. My mom is a phenomenal math teacher. However, when she was helping as a "mom", it was NO help.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 05:49 PM
Jan 2014

I think her knowing her daughters so intamtely made it hard for us to reconcile any homework help. I often see her explain, basically the same thing I'm saying, to my son, over a speaker phone, and he "gets it" better than when I'm trying to help him out.

I think there is a basic understanding within our household of what a child had learned, what should be review, and assumptions on the level of building block understanding, that a general frustration builds up with parent/ kid/ homework help. The child is a bit stubborn on what the teacher has said and has a tendency to want to zone out. And as a parent, my frustration starts edging in because I know there are multiple ways of looking at a problem and sometimes the "teacher's way" may not be the best way for the child; especially knowing which learning traits seem to have taken hold the best over multiple years.

I bet you would have better luck helping your children's friends over helping your own children. The fact that you continue to try to help and that your children know you understand what they are doing, is a huge help because in the back of their heads they know if you got it, then they are going to get it too, at some point. Don't give up and always try to help and recognize when a tutor may be necessary for certain subjects.

eggplant

(3,908 posts)
31. I end up tutoring all of our friends' kids in math
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:29 PM
Jan 2014

It avoids all of the parent/kid drama, since I'm neutral. It goes pretty well most of the time, except when one friend hovers around her daughter while I do it.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
21. Most kids want to learn...
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 05:52 PM
Jan 2014

they just need the right type of person to teach them. It sounds like you are that type. I envy you a bit- my dream job would be teaching high school math- any level would be fine. I know the pay sucks, but I would enjoy doing it.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
49. I agree that most children want to learn and, most importantly, they need an
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 11:26 AM
Jan 2014

adult around who thinks they are worth teaching.

I occasionally man a table at nature fairs, etc., as a volunteer activity, and I'll never forget one young girl, about 11 years old, who was interested in a bird bone. She and I talked for about 15 minutes as I showed her why the inside of bird bones were very porous and holey, while human bones were not. She seemed fascinated by the discussion, but she also looked at me like she adored me just for talking to her like she was 1) a human being and 2) smart enough to learn. I think about that little girl a lot, wondering if she is doing well.

rurallib

(62,379 posts)
26. You are a gem! Isn't it great when the student "gets it"?
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:19 PM
Jan 2014

We have been doing tutoring (a variation actually) for about 8 years. Our first mentee is leaving today to become a senate page in our state capital (Des Moines)
At one time I would have been happy just to know he would graduate. But one day the lights turned on and it was time to get out of his way. Being a page is quite an honor.
- He has been in lead rolls in school plays.
- He has won a state speech contest as an HS freshman
- He will be going to Europe next summer as a member of an honors choir.
- The grades are @3.5 - not bad.

But for us it has been such a thrill to see him excel - a true thrill.

One of our others is checking in with a 4.0 as a sophomore.

One boy's father told me a couple months ago he is reading above grade level for the first time in his life - and boy is he proud. I feel so good for him.

Didn't mean to hijack your thread - it is just that helping these kids has been so fulfilling. I hope many others get a chance to help out.

rurallib

(62,379 posts)
37. Just finished a visit with our young man headed to Des Moines
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jan 2014

He just took his semester test for AP American History - believes he aced it!
He and his family are headed to DM tomorrow morning. He wanted to make sure he said good bye to us.
We are so proud, as is he.

And as a senate page he is already friends with our local senators, so he will have some folks there to help him.

Got a little tear in my eye.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
36. I used to volunteer in my small town library.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jan 2014

I often helped middle school kids find resources and books. I noticed one girl, about 13 or so. She was extremely shy and wouldn't meet anyone's eyes. Gawky and tall, she seemed unhappy. She checked out paperback romance novels by the dozens.

I decided to make her a project, and started by just sayin Hi, in passing. Little by little she started to respond. One day, when she brought a stack of romance novels to the desk, I told her that I knew some books she might really enjoy. She followed me to the stacks, where I pulled out Little Women and Emma. She checked them out. The next week, on my volunteer day, she came in and returned them.

"Are there other books like these?" I found others, and over the next few months introduced her to a wide range of good fiction.

She's now a High School English teacher and still sends me a card at Christmas.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
48. Helping kids is always a positive thing to do.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jan 2014

Thank you for what you're doing. It's amazing what a simple thing can do to energize a young person.

niyad

(113,055 posts)
40. k and r--for you, and for the others on this thread, who are making a real difference in young
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jan 2014

people's lives. my deepest thanks to all of you.

senseandsensibility

(16,929 posts)
41. Are you a retired teacher?
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:05 AM
Jan 2014

I would love to be able to share my decades of experience, one on one, with individual students. As it is, I have 20-30 sudents, all with individual needs, that I must address simultaneously. Before I was a public school teacher, I did anything I could do to find a job. I tutored as one of my many part-time jobs. That was heaven for me, although I could not make a living at it. I was able to address each child as an individual. It was hard work, but it was rewarding. Teaching in today's public schools is something else altogether.

struggle4progress

(118,228 posts)
43. Class size really matters. I taught college-level math. With a class of twelve or fifteen,
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:37 AM
Jan 2014

I could and did tailor lessons to individual student's abilities; but when I taught classes of thirty-five or forty, it was impossible

catbyte

(34,333 posts)
50. Way cool
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jan 2014

You are setting that young woman up for a lifetime of of success. You do realize that, don't you?

Awesome.

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
52. That just gave me goosebumps.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jan 2014

I really enjoy watching young people learn, when they get a spark in their eye at some moment of great understanding. Thank you for tutoring and sharing your time and wisdom.

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
53. YOU are changing a life. Or two. Or ten. Or a hundred.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jan 2014

You've thrown the pebble into the water, and the waves radiate out from it.



Life is good.

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