Another day in the (Gun Crazy) USA

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Another day in the (Gun Crazy) U.S.A.
byTom Begnal

January 11, 2014 edition

Burwell, Neb. -- Police doing a welfare check at a home Tuesday afternoon discovered that a 31-year-old man shot and killed his 2-year-old daughter before using the gun to kill himself.

Freeport, Tex. -- About 10:15 a.m. Tuesday, police found two bodies at a home and believe that a 35-year-old man shot and killed his 34-year-old wife before using the gun to kill himself. The couple’s three children, ages 10, 8 and 5, were at school at the time of the shooting.

Lake Charles, La. -- A 32-year-old man shot and killed a 25-year-old woman at an apartment before using the gun to kill himself about 12:10 p.m. Wednesday.

Atascosa County, Texas -- A 50-year-old woman on her front porch and about to go into her house about 9:30 p.m. Sunday was shot and killed when two men in a residence next door were looking at a rifle and it accidentally discharged sending the bullet through a wall and striking her in the abdomen. No charges were expected to be filed.

Coloma, Mich. -- A man shot twice at a woman, striking he once in the hip, before using the gun to kill himself on Tuesday. The pair were in a relationship. No word on her condition.

Brandywine, Md. -- When five people -- three men and two women -- were hanging out at a home and playing with a rifle about 1:30 a.m. Thursday, one of the group -- a 23-year-old old man -- was killed after he was struck in the head when someone else in the group accidentally discharged the gun. No charges were expected to be filed.

Grand Forks, N.D. -- A 24-year-old man died after accidentally shooting himself while handling a gun on Wednesday. He leaves behind two children.

Cleveland, Ohio -- A man in his late teens or early 20s was found dead on a sidewalk about 4:50 a.m. today. He had been shot in the chest.

Aurora, Colo. -- A man was found shot to death in the parking lot of an apartment complex about 12:30 a.m. today.

Chicago, Ill. -- About 7 p.m. Wednesday, a 52-year-old woman shot her 56-year-old brother in his eye, killing him, as they argued over whether or not a gun would fire. She was charged with reckless homicide.

Sand Creek, Ind. -- A 16-year-old boy handling a rifle accidentally shot his 12-year-old brother in the head at their home about 11:30 p.m. Monday. The rest of the family was asleep at the time. The family had been shooting firearms earlier in the day. No word on the victim’s condition.

Janesville, Wis. -- A 20-year-old man accidentally shot his 13-year-old sister in her arm when he mistook her for an intruder at her residence Wednesday afternoon. Police said the man did not think his sister was home and when she got out of bed he suspected the movement in her room was someone trying to break into the house through the bedroom window, so he got his father’s handgun and fired through the bedroom door. Police plan to charge the man with recklessly endangering safety.

Jeannette, Penn. -- An 11-year-old boy was shot in the ear when six rounds fired from outside pierced the walls of his home as he stood in his sister’s upstairs bedroom about 7:30 p.m. Wednesday. He was treated and released.

Springfield, Ohio -- A 22-year-old man accidentally shot his 18-year-old brother in the abdomen and arm while removing a gun from a safe. The victim’s injuries were considered non life-threatening.

Columbia County, Fla. -- A 30-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the chest about 11:45 a.m. Thursday morning when he dropped a rifle at a home and it discharged as it hit the floor. He was reported as conscious and alert during transport to a hospital.

Carlisle, Penn. -- A man accidentally shot his girlfriend in her right arm at a home on Tuesday. Police said charges might be filed. Her injuries were considered non life-threatening.

Wiscasset, Maine -- A 49-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the chest Tuesday afternoon while handling a handgun. No word on his condition.

Wagoner County, Okla. -- A woman was accidentally shot at a residence around 1 p.m. Tuesday. Police said no arrests would be made. Her injuries were listed as non life-threatening.

Topeka, Kan. -- A woman was dropped off at a hospital with a gunshot wound about 3 p.m. Wednesday. She was in stable condition.

North Little Rock, Ark. -- When someone with a gun walked up to a car with an 18-year-old male driver and three juveniles inside and demanded everything the driver had, the driver was shot several times after he pulled a gun and tried to defend himself about 1:30 a.m. today. The juveniles were not injured. The victim was listed in stable condition.

Jackson, Tenn. -- Two men in their 30s were shot during a robbery attempt as they walked from a sports bar to their car about 2 a.m. today. One victim was shot in his stomach; the other was shot his arm. Both were listed in stable condition.

Jackson, Tenn. -- Four people were shot about 2:30 a.m. today after an argument inside a bar escalated into gunfire on a street outside the establishment. One victim suffered a graze wound; no information on the conditions of the other victims.

Cleveland, Ohio -- A 24-year-old man was shot multiple times in the back after a fight broke out between two people inside a recreation center about 6:30 p.m. Wednesday. He was listed in critical condition.

Pittsburgh, Penn. -- A man showed up at a hospital with a gunshot wound about 10:50 p.m. last night.

Frankfort, Ky. -- A state lawmaker with a concealed-carry permit accidentally fired a handgun while trying to empty it at her Capitol Annex office this week. A legislative colleague was in the office at the time. No one was struck by the flying bullet. Police said no charges would be filed.

Tanana, Alaska -- Some residents of the village have been without Internet and cable TV service since New Year’s Eve after a reveler firing into the air accidentally shot through a fiber-optic cable.

Today’s sources: Arkansasmatters.com, Associated Press, Bangor Daily News, Chicago Tribune, The (Jackson, Tenn.) Clarion-Ledger, Cleveland Plain Dealer, Denver Post, The (Clute, Tex.) Facts, The Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, KHAS-TV Hastings (Neb.), KOKI-TV Tulsa, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Murder-suicide.blogspot.com, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Pleasanton (Texas) Express, The Topeka Capital-Journal, The Washington Post, WAVE-TV Louisville, WBND-TV South Bend, WDAZ-TV Grand Forks, WGMB-TV Baton Rouge, WHTM-TV Harrisburg, WTLV-TV Jacksonville

Addendum for January 11, 2014
If today is an average day, some 277 Americans will be shot by a gun. And 84 of those shot will die.

The story will repeat itself tomorrow, and the day after that, and the day after that, and on and on and on.

Help stop this slaughter.

Please call, write, email, or FAX your representatives in Washington, D.C. and tell them to support common sense gun control. Do it today. And do it again next week. And do it again every week after that until they get the message.

You’ll find contact information here:

www.contactingthecongress.org

January 8, 2014 edition
Albita Springs, La. -- A 17-year-old boy shot and killed his 35-year-old father and 2-year-old half-sister at a home on Monday.

Chicago, Ill. -- A 13-year-old boy killed a sleeping 16-year-old boy, his cousin, about 5:50 a.m. Sunday after the two had argued earlier over a video game system.

Olmsted County, Minn. -- A 19-year-old man shot and killed an 18-year-old woman before using the gun to kill himself at his home about 4 p.m. Monday. The two were college freshmen and police believe they were friends.

Simi Valley, Calif. -- A 42-year-old man shot and killed his 30-year-old wife before using the gun to kill himself at their home about 2 p.m. last Saturday. The couple’s four children who were home at the time of the shooting were unharmed.

Kirksville, Mo. -- About 1:30 a.m. Sunday, a 36-year-old man shot and killed his 33-year-old wife at their home before using the gun to kill himself. The couple’s three small children and two other adults were at the home at the time of the shooting.

Knoxville, Tenn. -- On Thursday, a 49-year-old man shot and killed his 59-year-old wife as she tried to get out of their house before using the gun to kill himself. The woman was found dead at the end of the driveway with multiple gunshot wounds; the man’s body was found in an upstairs bedroom.

Darby, Mont. -- Police responding to a residence on Monday found two people shot to death and they are calling it a murder-suicide.

Fresno, Calif. -- A husband and wife, both 77-years-old, were found fatally shot at their home about 11 a.m. Sunday and police say it was a murder-suicide. The pair left a note indicating that both of them were in poor health.

Taylor County, Ky. -- Police found two people fatally shot Tuesday morning and they suspect it was a murder-suicide.

Aldie, Va. -- Police responding to a report of shots fired about 10:30 p.m. yesterday found two adults fatally shot and a third adult shot and wounded in an apparent murder-suicide. Two juveniles inside the home were not injured. The wounded adult was reported as having serious but non life-threatening injuries.

Somerville, Ala. -- A 45-year-old woman was found dead from a single gunshot wound at a home on Sunday.

Pulaski County, Ark. -- A woman has been arrested after she confessed to shooting her husband multiple times, killing him, after the two had an altercation Sunday morning.

Jacksonville, Fla. -- A 45-year-old man shot and killed a 33-year-old woman at a home they shared and then used the gun to shoot and wound himself. The shooter was expected to recover.

Egnar, Colo. -- A 28-year-old man hunting coyotes was accidentally shot and killed by a fellow hunter on December 27.

Kansas City, Mo. -- A 21-year-old man was found fatally shot on a street about 1:30 p.m. Tuesday.

Inverness, Fla. -A 64-year-old man died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound Sunday afternoon.

Springfield, Mo. -- A 6-year-old girl was accidentally shot by a 12 year old boy inside a home last Wednesday. She was listed in stable condition after surgery.

Taylor, Tex. -- A 22-year-old man playing with a handgun he thought was unloaded accidentally shot his 12-year-old cousin about 11 p.m. Thursday. The boy was listed in stable condition.

Philadelphia, Penn. -- Police responding to a report of a shooting at a home about 3:30 a.m. Sunday arrived to find a 26-year-old woman in bed with a gunshot wound to her forehead and her 36-year-old boyfriend said he accidentally shot her. He was taken into custody and charged with attempted murder, aggravated assault, and several other offenses. The woman was listed in critical condition.

Rogersville, Tenn. -- A 41-year-old woman accidentally shot herself in the abdomen while cleaning her handgun about 3:15 p.m. Saturday. She was listed in good condition.

East Palo Alto, Calif. -- A 26-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the head as he handled a gun while intoxicated about 9 p.m. New Year's Eve. No word on his condition.

Burien, Wash. -- About 1 a.m. last Wednesday, a 66-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the thigh while in the parking lot of a pub. He was expected to survive.

Mendon, N.Y. -- A man eating at a restaurant on Saturday was shot in his hand and ankle and his dining companion was shot in the ankle when his gun accidentally discharged. No one else in the restaurant was struck by the flying bullet. No word on the conditions of the two victims.

Brighton, Mich. -- A 32-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the buttocks with the gun he was carrying while in a big-box home-improvement store after he reached for his wallet but instead inadvertently grabbed the weapon causing it to discharge on December 26. No one else was struck by the flying bullet. Police say the man had a license to carry the concealed weapon and no charges will be filed. He was treated for minor injuries and released from a local hospital.

Galveston, Tex. -- A man accidentally shot himself in the leg about 5 p.m. Thursday. No word on his condition.

Toledo, Ohio -- A man accidentally shot himself in the leg while on a street about 5 a.m. last Wednesday.

Durham, N.C. -- A 31-year-old woman and her 9-year-old son were shot while sitting in a vehicle Saturday evening. No word on the victims’ conditions.

Anchorage, Alaska -- About 1 a.m. Tuesday, when police responded to a call from neighbors reporting that a man and woman were yelling and physically fighting at a home, they found a man suffering from gunshot wounds. His injuries were described as life-threatening.

Omaha, Neb. -- A man showed up at a hospital about 4 a.m. Sunday with a gunshot wound to his leg. No word on his condition.

Oakland, Calif. -- Two men were shot and wounded about 8 p.m. Monday. Their injuries were not considered life-threatening.

Jersey City, N.J. -- A 15-year-old boy on his way to school Tuesday morning was shot in the leg by another 15-year-old boy who then fled on foot. The shooter was later arrested. No word on the victim’s condition.

Athens, Ga. -- When a 22-year-old man in a cafe on Wednesday reached into his pocket for cash to pay his bill, he accidentally fired his handgun and the flying bullet passed through his chair and ricocheted off the floor before coming to rest on top of the chair. No one was struck by the bullet. No word on whether or not he was arrested.

Anchorage, Alaska -- Late Sunday, while arguing over an unpaid $10 bet, a 25-year-old man put a gun to the head of his 19-year-old roommate and pulled the trigger, but the gun jammed and the roommate escaped. The bet had to do with whether or not a local grocery store was open. The older man was arrested.

Today’s sources: Anchorage Daily News, Arkansasmatters.com, Athens (Ga.) Banner-Herald, The B-town (Burien, Wash.) blog, Chicago Tribune, The Denver Post, The Detroit News, Florida Times-Union, Galveston Daily News, Herald-Sun, KCTV-TV Kansas City, KEYE-TV Austin, KFSN-TV Fresno, (Kingsport, Tenn.) Times-News, KGO-TV San Francisco, KOLR-TV Springfield (Mo.), KPAX-TV Missoula, KTVO-TV Kirksville (Mo.), Los Angeles Daily News, Minneapolis Star Tribune, Oakland Tribune, The (N.J.) Star-Ledger, Tampa Bay Times, Times-Picayune, The Toledo Blade, WHAM-TV Rochester, WHNT-TV Huntsville, WKYT-TV Lexington, WOWT-TV Omaha, WPVI-TV Philadelphia, WUSA-TV Washington, D.C.

Addendum for January 8, 2014
We have an epidemic of gun violence in the U.S.A. Here’s an organization working to find a cure: http://www.demandaction.org/

January 4, 2014 edition
Fontana, Calif. -- Police discovered four bodies with gunshot wounds -- a man between 30 and 35-years-old, a woman between 30 and 35-years-old, a 12-year-old girl, and a 10-year-old boy -- and they a calling it a murder-suicide. The woman and the children suffered multiple gunshot wounds; the man had a single gunshot wound to his head.

Tolleson, Ariz. -- A 45-year-old man shot and killed his two daughters, ages 8 and 6, before using the gun to kill himself on Tuesday night.

Lee County, Ala. -- A 10 year old boy was accidentally shot and killed inside a home about 7 p.m. Monday when he and two other juveniles were handling a gun and it inadvertently discharged.

Houston, Tex. -- A woman shot and killed her 43-year-old husband at an apartment on Tuesday before driving to a family member’s residence where she confessed to the crime and then used the gun to kill herself.

Knox County, Tenn. -- After neighbors heard gunshots and called 911 about 6:30 p.m. Thursday, police arrived to find a man and his wife dead from gunshot wounds and they are calling it a murder-suicide. Two of the bullets struck a neighbor’s living room window.

Silver Valley, N.C. -- A 71-year-old man shot and wounded his 70-year-old wife before using the gun to kill himself about 10:30 a.m. Wednesday. Police reported there had been domestic strife between the couple. The woman’s injuries were described as serious but not life-threatening.

Pinellas Park, Fla. -- A 29-year-old man shot and killed his mother’s 48-year-old fiancee in a motel room and then used the gun to fatally shoot himself. His mother told police her son had a history of mental delusions.

Orange County, Fla. -- A 58-year-old man shot himself in the head at a gun range about 12:15 p.m. yesterday and police are calling it a suicide.

Camden, N.J. -- A man with a gunshot wound to his head was found on a street and pronounced dead at the scene about 11 p.m. Thursday.

Newport News, Va. -- A 6-year-old was struck in the foot by a stray bullet about 12:20 a.m. Wednesday. The child’s injuries were considered non life-threatening.

Florence County, S.C. -- An 8-year-old boy was accidentally shot by his father while they were deer hunting around 5 p.m. Wednesday. The boy’s injuries were reported as non life-threatening

Merritt Island, Fla. -- A 14-year-old girl accidentally shot herself with a handgun while at a gun range with her father about 3:20 p.m. Thursday. Her injuries were reported as non life-threatening.

Monroe, La. -- A 17-year-old boy was accidentally shot in the chest when he and a teenage relative were fooling with a rifle at the relative’s home about 3:50 p.m. Wednesday. The victim was listed in critical but stable condition.

Cheyenne, Wyo. -- On Tuesday afternoon, a 22-year-old woman shopping at a big-box home-improvement store was accidentally shot in the arm when a handgun belonging to another shopper -- a 58-year-old woman -- fell from its holster causing the weapon to discharge. No word on whether or not charges were filed. The victim’s condition was not reported.

Dallas, Tex. -- A 31-year-old off-duty game warden was shot in the chest while bow-hunting Sunday afternoon. Police think he was accidentally shot by another hunter in the area. The victim was listed in stable condition.

Jacksonville, Fla. -- A 46-year-old man celebrating New Year’s Eve with his family at an apartment accidentally shot himself in the chest while playing with a gun. He was reported in serious condition and fighting for his life.

Glendale, Calif. -- A 48-year-old man accidentally shot his 43-year-old wife in her shoulder about 5:30 p.m. Wednesday as she stood in the kitchen of their home and he sat on a couch preparing to clear the barrel of a handgun. She was listed in stable condition.

Harrison Township, Mich. -- A 50-year-old woman was shot in the stomach in her home about 8:30 p.m. Monday when her 60-year-old husband was cleaning his handgun at the kitchen table and it accidentally discharged. No word on her condition.

Highland Park, Calif. -- A man was accidentally struck by a bullet around midnight Tuesday and police say it was related to celebratory New Year’s gunfire. His injuries were reported as non life-threatening.

Today’s sources: Dallas Morning News, Detroit Free Press, The (Lexington, N.C.) Dispatch, KGWN-TV Cheyenne, KHOU-TV Houston, KNXV-TV Phoenix, Los Angeles Times, The (Monroe, La.) News Star, Orlando Sentinel, South Jersey Times, The Southern Illinoisan, The Virginian Pilot, WATE-TV Knoxville, WBIR-TV Knoxville, WESH-TV Orlando, WFTS-TV Tampa, WMBF-TV Myrtle Beach S.C., WSFA-TV Montgomery, WTLV-TV Jacksonville

Addendum for January 4, 2014
We have an epidemic of gun violence in the U.S.A. Here’s an organization working to find a cure : http://momsdemandaction.org/.

December 22, 2013 edition
Sahuarita, Ariz. -- A 3-year-old boy died on Friday after he shot himself in the face. His parents said the gun was inadvertently misplaced for a short while and found by the child.

Littleton, Colo. -- A 17-year-old girl, a high-school student, died Saturday from injuries she suffered when shot by an 18-year-old male armed with a shotgun at her school on December 13. The shooter used the gun to kill himself moments later.

Oskaloosa, Iowa -- A 73-year-old man died after accidentally shooting himself in the abdomen while unloading a handgun at a shooting range about 1:30 p.m. Wednesday.

Bellwood, Ill. -- A 50-year-old off-duty sheriff’s deputy was fatally shot while trying to break up an armed robbery outside a VFW hall where a family Christmas party was being held Friday night.

Ames, Iowa -- A 38-year-old man is dead from a gunshot wound to his head after an accidental shooting at a home about 10:30 p.m. Friday.

Rutledge, Tenn. -- A woman and her 10-year-old grandson were found shot to death in the yard of an abandoned home about 6:15 a.m. Saturday and police are calling it a murder-suicide.

Memphis, Tenn. -- About 1:30 p.m. Wednesday, a 34-year-old man and a 24-year-old woman were found fatally shot in an apartment and a 51-year-old woman was found with a gunshot wound on a walkway outside the apartment. Police are calling the shooting a murder-suicide. A 6-month-old baby who appeared to be unharmed was lying next to the dead man. Two other children, ages 4 and 3, were also in the apartment. Police do not yet know who did the shooting. The injured woman was in critical condition.

Northport, Ala. -- A 64-year-old woman shot her 43-year-old stepson several times, killing him, before using the gun to kill herself about 11:30 p.m. Friday.

Cobb County, Ga. -- A 43-year-old woman and a 26-year-old man were found shot to death in a house Wednesday night and police believe it was a murder-suicide.

Cobb County, Ga. -- A 54-year-old woman set fire to her house before using a gun to shoot and kill herself shortly after noon on Friday.

Henderson, N.C. -- A 31-year-old man shot and killed a 28-year-old woman inside a gas-station convenience store before using the gun to kill himself about 8 p.m. Thursday. The store manager said the pair had been arguing outside the store and that the shooting occurred after the woman went inside the store to seek refuge.

Central City, Penn. -- A 57-year-old man shot and killed his 59-year-old wife at their home before using the gun to kill himself. The woman was shot twice in the chest. Police doing a welfare check found the bodies Monday.

Tampa, Fla. -- A man was found fatally shot and lying on the ground outside an apartment building about 9:40 p.m. Saturday.

Madison, Mo. -- A 50-year-old woman missing since Nov. 28 was found dead in the trunk of a car with a gunshot wound to her head.

Harris County, Tex. -- Two men were shot and killed at an apartment complex about 4:30 p.m. Saturday.

Jefferson County, Ala. -- A man was fatally shot and two people were treated for stab wounds after a large fight broke out during a birthday party about 1:30 a.m. Saturday.

Cleveland, Ohio -- A 38-year-old is dead after she was shot and pushed from a car about 3 a.m. yesterday.

Titusville, Fla. -- A 20-year-old man was found fatally shot and lying in a front yard about 6 p.m. Friday.

Philadelphia, Penn. -- A man accidentally shot himself in the hand while riding in a city bus about 6:15 p.m. Wednesday. No one else was struck by the flying bullet. The man fled the bus when it stopped.

Bradenton, Fla. -- A man was accidentally shot in the torso by someone showing off a handgun about 11 p.m. Friday. The victim was listed in stable condition.

Frisco, Tex. -- An employee at a newly opened gun club accidentally shot himself in the hand on December 14. No one else was struck by the flying bullet. The victim was treated and released from a local hospital.

Northwest Miami-Dade, Fla. -- A 13-year-old boy was shot in the head and wounded while walking with friends about 7:30 p.m. Thursday after a car pulled up and someone inside the vehicle opened fire. The boy was listed in stable condition.

Gloucester Township, N.J. -- An off-duty police officer was wounded while unloading a personally-owned handgun and the weapon accidentally discharged at a home about 3 a.m. last Sunday. No one else was injured by the flying bullet. The victim suffered a minor injury to his hand.

Milwaukee, Wis. -- Two men, ages 25 and 20, were wounded about 10 a.m. Saturday while waiting in line to buy shoes when they got into an argument after one of the men accused the other of cutting into the line and that led to the two men pulling guns and shooting at each other. No one else was struck by the flying bullets. Police arrested both of them after they were treated and released from a local hospital.

Benton, Ark. -- Two men broke into an apartment and robbed a man before shooting him multiple times Friday night. No word on the victim’s condition.

Macon, Ga. -- A teenage male was shot in the shoulder near a park around 3 p.m. Thursday. He was treated at a local hospital.

Today’s sources: Arkansasmatters.com, Associated Press, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Birmingham News, Bradenton (Fla.) Herald, Chicago Tribune, Cleveland Plain Dealer, Des Moines Register, Houston Chronicle, Knoxville News Sentinel, KYW-TV Philadelphia, Milwaukee Journal, Murder-suicide.blogspot.com, The Ottumwa (Iowa), Courier, Philadelphia Inquirer, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, The Tuscaloosa (Ala.) News, UPI, WFTV-TV Orlando, WMAZ-TV Macon, WSVN-TV Miami

Addendum for December 22, 2013
Every year in the U.S.A., on average: *

-- Over 18,000 people kill themselves with a gun (51 each day)

-- Almost 12,000 people are murdered by a gun (32 each day)

-- Almost 600 people are accidentally shot and killed by a gun (1 each day)

-- Over 51,000 people are shot and wounded in an attack involving a gun (140 each day)

-- Over 16,000 people are accidentally shot and wounded by a gun (43 each day)

-- Almost 4,000 people are wounded attempting to kill themselves with a gun (10 each day).

Total killed by guns each year: Over 30,000 (84 each day)

Total wounded by guns each year: Over 70,000 (193 each day)

Total number of Americans either killed or wounded by guns each year: Over 100,000 (277 each day)

* Brady Campaign (gun deaths from police intervention not included here)

Please help do something about this national disgrace. Call, write, email, or FAX your representatives in Washington, D.C. and tell them to support common sense gun controls. Do it today. And do it again next week. And then every week after that until they get the message.

You can get contact information here:

www.contactingthecongress.org

December 19 -- December 21, 2013
No reports filed
December 18, 2013 edition

Reno, Nev. -- A man walked into a medical office at a regional medical center about 2 p.m. yesterday and opened fire, killing one person and wounding two more before turning the gun on himself. The two wounded victims were listed in critical condition.

Columbia, Tenn. -- When two men were upstairs in a home looking at a handgun about 1 a.m. Sunday, the weapon accidentally discharged sending a bullet through the floor where it struck a 19-year-old man in the head as he stood in the kitchen, killing him.

Indianapolis, Ind. -- A 27-year-old man shot and killed a 31-year-old woman before using the gun to kill himself at a home on Monday. The two had been dating on-and-off for 10 years. An 11-year-old boy and a 6-year-old girl inside the home at the time of the shooting were unharmed.

Cape Coral, Fla. -- After a 49-year-old man got into an argument with his 49-year-old wife, he shot the woman multiple times, killing her, before using the gun to shoot and wound himself Saturday night. The couple’s 9-year-old son was unharmed and is in the care of family members. The husband’s injuries were described as critical.

Merced, Calif. -- After a 55-year-old man argued with his 55-year-old estranged wife at a home, he shot her several times, wounding her, before using the gun to kill himself about 1 p.m. Monday. The couple’s adult daughter tried to intervene in the argument before the shooting started. She was not injured. The victim was listed in critical condition.

Maywood, Ill. -- A 48-year-old man shot a 41-year-old woman multiple times, killing her, before using the gun to kill himself Saturday afternoon at their home. A 17-year-old relative of the victims called police to report the shooting.

Houston, Tex. -- A 45-year-old man shot and wounded his 51-year-old wife before using the gun to kill himself about 10:15 p.m. Thursday. The woman was listed in serious condition. The couple’s children who are between the ages of 10 and 15 years old were home at the time of the shooting but were not injured.

Dallas, Tex. -- A 49-year-old man shot and killed his 22-year-old stepson before he used the gun to kill himself about 1 a.m. Friday.

Nether Providence, Penn. -- A 44-year-old man shot his 48-year-old estranged wife twice and then used the gun to kill himself about 3:40 a.m. Friday. The woman was on life support and listed in extremely critical condition.

San Antonio, Tex. -- Around 4:50 p.m. Thursday, a 59-year-old man was found dead with three gunshot wounds to his head and a 48-year-old woman was found dead with a single gunshot wound to her head in what police are calling an apparent murder-suicide. The couple’s daughter found the bodies and called police.

Ivesdale, Ill. -- A 45-year-old man shot and killed himself and his 42-year-old wife was accidentally shot in the hand as she tried to stop him about 3:30 p.m. yesterday.

Cleveland, Ohio -- A 27-year-old man with a concealed weapon license fatally shot a would-be robber, a male thought to be in his 20’s, and wounded another, a 27-year-old male inside his home early Tuesday. The wounded man was treated, released, and arrested.

Walled Lake, Mich. -- About 9:30 p.m. yesterday, a 28-year-old man shot and killed his 45-year-old neighbor when they got into a dispute over the younger man’s loose dog.

Long Beach, Calif. -- A woman was shot and killed about 10 p.m. last night.

St. Paul, Minn. -- A 16-year-old boy was accidentally shot in the stomach by his 15-year-old friend about 7 p.m. Monday when the pair were playing with a rifle. His injury appeared to be non life-threatening.

Indianapolis, Ind. -- An 18-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the head while inside a home late yesterday. He was reported as awake and talking when police arrived.

Clinton, Tenn. -- A 58-year-old man accidentally shot one of his fingers yesterday.

Chicago, Ill. -- A 16-year-old boy was shot in the head and wounded while on a street when someone got out of a van and opened fire about 10:30 p.m.

Chicago, Ill. -- A man was found shot and wounded at a train station about 2:20 a.m. today. He was listed in good condition.

Denver, Colo. -- One person was shot about 5 p.m. yesterday. No word on the victim’s condition.

Bridgeport, Conn. -- A grocery-store clerk was shot in the leg during an attempted robbery yesterday evening. No word on his condition.

Long Beach, Calif. -- A man showed up a hospital with a gunshot wound. His injuries were considered non life-threatening.

Louisville, Ky. -- Two people were shot and wounded about 1 a.m. yesterday. No word in their conditions

Deerfield Beach, Fla. -- A male employee of a big-box department store shot out the car window of a female co-worker because she won an employee-of-the-month award that the man felt he deserved. The woman was at work at the time and not injured. The man was arrested and also fired from his job.

Today’s sources: Akron Beacon Journal, Chicago Tribune, The (Columbia, Tenn.) Daily Herald, The Dallas Morning News, Delaware County (Penn.) Daily Times, Denver Post, Detroit Free Press, Florida Times-Union, Hartford Courant, KABC-TV Los Angeles, KENS-TV San Antonio, KHOU-TV Houston, Knoxville News Sentinel, KSTP-TV St. Paul, (Mattoon Ill.) Journal Gazette and Times Courier, The Modesto (Calif.) Bee, Reno Gazette-Journal, WINK-TV Fort Myers, WISH-TV Indianapolis, WRTV-TV Indianapolis

Addendum for December 18, 2013
Help reduce this daily carnage. Find out how, here:

www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.com

December 13 -- December 17, 2013
No reports filed
December 12, 2013 edition

Indianapolis, Ind. -- A 3-year-old boy is dead after he found a gun and accidentally shot himself in the head about 6 p.m. Saturday. Neighbors said the boy’s grandfather owns the home and he lives there along with the boy’s father, mother, and 4-year-old sister. All were at home when the shooting occurred. Neighbors also said they have seen the boy’s father wearing a gun “as a course of general protection.”

Brighton, Tenn. -- A 43-year-old woman accidentally shot and killed her husband at their home about 6 a.m. Sunday. After waking up to the sound of what she thought was an intruder in the house, she got a gun and proceeded to load and cock it. When the woman didn’t find an intruder, she went back to her bed to wake up her husband. She placed the gun on the bed and it discharged when she leaned in to wake him. The shooting is still under investigation.

Higginsport, Ohio -- About 9 p.m. Saturday, a 42-year-old woman missing since Thursday was found dead in her car along with her 55-year-old estranged husband. The woman was last seen putting three of her five children on a bus to school. She had a protection order against the man. A handgun was found in the vehicle. The incident was being investigated as a murder-suicide.

St. Petersburg, Fla. -- A 23-year-old man died Wednesday evening after he was accidentally shot in the chest when his 20-year-old girlfriend picked up a gun she thought was unloaded and pointed it at the man and pulled the trigger.
The woman has been arrested on manslaughter charges.

Memphis, Tenn. -- A 19-year-old woman was shot and killed at a motel shortly after noon on Sunday. Police are looking for the shooter.

Miami-Dade, Fla. -- After shooting and wounding his wife and threatening his adult son on Sunday, a man barricaded himself in his apartment for more than six hours and created a police standoff that ended when he shot and killed himself. No word on the condition of the woman.

Phoenix, Ariz. -- A 52-year-old man shot and killed his common-law wife of nearly 30 years before using the gun to kill himself about 9:30 a.m. Wednesday. The couple had several children together.

Los Angeles, Calif. -- A 60-year-old man shot and killed his ailing wife at their apartment Wednesday morning before driving to a nursing facility where he shot and killed his near-comatose sister. His wife suffered from dementia and his sister was in a vegetative state for five years after suffering a heart attack. Police are investigating the shootings as possible mercy killings.

Cold Spring, N.Y. -- A 47-year-old man died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at a motel after an 11-hour standoff with police on Sunday.

Albany, N.Y. -- A 20-year-old man was shot and killed in the middle of a street about 2 a.m. Monday.

Jeffersonville, Ind. -- A 20-year-old man was shot and killed at a home on Saturday and his 34-year-old uncle has been charged with murder in connection with the incident. The uncle claims it was an accident.

Cleveland, Ohio -- A 28-year-old man is dead after he was shot once in the chest when he and a friend were held up by three men near a train station about 8 p.m. Monday.

Leon, N.Y. -- An 8-year-old boy was accidentally shot by his 14-year-old brother at their home about 8:30 a.m. today. The child was listed in stable condition.

Elizabethtown, Ky. -- When a man with a concealed carry permit used a restaurant bathroom Sunday and placed his handgun on the toilet paper dispenser, he accidentally shot himself in the leg when the weapon fell. No one else was struck by the flying bullet. His injuries were considered non life-threatening. No word on whether or not he will face charges.

Jacksonville, Fla. -- A Marine Corps officer accidentally shot himself in the leg about 11 a.m. this morning while training at a sheriff’s office firing range. Police said all safety protocols were in place at the time, including a firearms instructor, a safety officer, and a Marine corpsman. His injuries were considered non life-threatening.

Scarborough, Me. -- A 77-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the abdomen with a handgun at a fish-and-game club firing range about 11 a.m. Saturday. Police said he was expected to survive but faces a long recovery.

Wichita, Kan. -- A 36-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the hand and thigh in the early hours of Tuesday morning. No one else was struck by the flying bullet. The man said he might have been hallucinating at the time. Police found several guns at the victim’s home.

Hamlin Township, Penn. -- A 53-year-old man accidentally shot himself in the hip while at his vehicle in the parking lot of a convenience store when he reached for a rifle that he thought was unloaded. No one else was struck by the flying bullet. No word on his condition.

Dillon, Mont. -- A hunter retrieving a shot duck was accidentally struck by birdshot just below his eye on Saturday when another hunter in his party fired at low-flying birds. The victim was reported as doing well.

Arlington, Tex. -- Three men were shot and wounded about 2:45 p.m. yesterday. Their injuries were considered non life-threatening.

Ferguson, Mo. -- A 35-year-old woman and a 30-year-old man were shot in the back and wounded about 1:30 a.m. Wednesday when a gunman walked up to their car and opened fire. Their injuries were not considered life-threatening.

New Orleans, La. -- A man of unknown age was shot and killed and two men, ages 20 and 17, were shot and wounded near a gas station about 7:30 p.m. Tuesday. The two wounded men were listed in stable condition.

Chicago, Ill. -- An 18-year-old man was shot in the chest about 6:30 p.m. Monday. He was in critical condition.

Chicago, Ill. -- A 28-year-old man was shot as he sat in the back seat of a vehicle parked in an alley about 1 a.m. Monday. Police believe the gunfire came from a nearby van. The victim was listed in stable condition.

Montgomery, Ala. -- A man was shot yesterday. His injuries were considered possibly life threatening.

Dekalb County, Ga. -- Someone was shot at a grocery store about 9:30 p.m. Wednesday. No word on the victim’s condition.

Ripley, Miss. -- A 35-year-old man was shot and killed and another man was shot and wounded around 6 a.m. Wednesday. A 26-year-old man has been arrested in connection with the shootings. No word on the condition of the wounded man.

Indianapolis, Ind. -- A man was shot and wounded about 11 p.m. yesterday. No word on his condition.

Baltimore, Md. -- A 15-year-old boy was shot and wounded around 3:10 p.m. yesterday, apparently after he got into an argument with someone. The victim was expected to survive.

Today’s sources: Associated Press, The Bradford (Penn.) Era, Chicago Tribune, Cleveland Plain Dealer, The Florida Times-Union, KPHO-TV Phoenix, KXLF-TV Butte, Los Angeles Times, (Jeffersonville, Ind.) News and Tribune, Olean (N.Y.) Times Herald, Portland (Me.) Press Herald, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Tampa Bay Times, Times-Picayune, WBAL-TV Baltimore, WCPO-TV Cincinnati, The Wichita Eagle, WFAA-TV Dallas, WISH-TV Indianapolis, WMC-TV Memphis, WSB-TV Atlanta, WSFA-TV Montgomery, WSVN-TV Miami, WTHR-TV Indianapolis

Addendum for December 12, 2013
Back in the spring, a lobbyist for an NRA chartered organization in Wisconsin said gun-rights proponents need only wait-out the “Connecticut effect” before they could once again start passing laws to loosen restrictions on guns. That lobbyist felt certain we would eventually forget what happened at Sandy Hook, and then any interest in common sense gun laws would vaporize.

We need to let that lobbyist and the NRA know that this time is different. This time we are not going away. We are not going to forget Sandy Hook, or Aurora, or Columbine, or Virginia Tech, or Tucson, or the 100,000 Americans who are either killed or wounded by guns each year.

Please help slow this daily carnage. Call, write, email, or FAX your representatives in Washington, D.C. and tell them to support common sense gun controls. Do it today. And do it again next week. And then every week after that until they get the message.

You can get contact information here:

www.contactingthecongress.org

December 9 -- December 11, 2013
No reports filed
December 8, 2013 edition

Alma, Ark. -- A man used a shotgun to shoot and kill his daughter’s boyfriend and two granddaughters -- ages 4-months old and 4-years old -- before using the gun to kill himself at a home about 3 p.m. Tuesday. The 4-month-old was shot while in a car seat in a vehicle parked outside the residence and the 4-year-old was shot in the back in the backyard.

Richmond Hill, Ga. -- A 40-year-old woman shot and killed her 8-year-old son before using the weapon to kill herself Monday morning. The woman’s husband and the boy’s father received a text message from his wife shortly after he left for work telling him to return home. He found the bodies when he returned.

Manchester, Conn. -- Late last night, a man shot and killed three women at an apartment and then used the gun to kill himself in front of police just moments after putting down a 13-month-old child that was in his arms.

Lansing, Mich. -- A 53-year-old man shot and killed his 37-year-old wife and 14-year-old stepson before using the gun to kill himself Thursday night. The woman reportedly had been the victim of domestic abuse in the past.

Simi Valley, Calif. -- Two neighbors -- a man and a woman -- were found shot to death about 7 a.m. Monday and police are calling it a murder-suicide. The woman’s body was found in the front yard of a house and the man’s body was found outside another home in the same cul-de-sac. The two reportedly had a relationship. Police have not yet said who they think fired the gun.

Westbrook, Me. -- A 30-year-old man shot and killed a 22-year-old man inside the younger man’s apartment before using the gun to kill himself Saturday morning. The two reportedly had a relationship.

Colerain Township, Ohio -- A 43-year-old man shot and killed a 30-year-old woman at a home before using the gun to kill himself about 3 p.m. Friday. Police believe the two had a relationship. The woman had two young children.

Carrolton, Ala. -- A 53-year-old man was found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound at a home and two other people were also found dead there -- his 82-year-old mother and 63-year-old sister -- although police were waiting for autopsy results to determine how the women died.

East Lansing, Mich. -- About 8 p.m. last Sunday, a 63-year-old man found his father and mother -- both 91-years-old -- shot to death in their home and police are calling it a murder-suicide. The initial investigation revealed that the husband used a handgun to kill his wife of over 60 years before he killed himself. A note written by the father was found at the scene.

Tampa, Fla.-- About 11:45 a.m. Saturday, a 60-year-old man found his 88-year-old father and 87-year-old mother shot to death in their home and police believe the husband killed his wife before shooting himself. The son told police his mother had been ill.

Campbell, Calif. -- A 92-year-old woman and her 89-year-old husband were found fatally shot Saturday afternoon and police are investigating the incident as a likely murder-suicide. It was not yet known if the husband or wife did the shooting.

Asheville, N.C. -- A 40-year-old woman and a 37-year-old man were found fatally shot at a home about 8 a.m. Wednesday and police suspect it was a murder-suicide. No word yet on who fired the gun.

Bolingbrook, Ill. -- A 37-year-old man shot and killed his 69-year-old mother in a home about 5:30 p.m. Friday before using the gun to kill himself.

Leicester, N.C. -- A 65-year-old man and his 64-year-old wife were found fatally shot in their home about 5:30 p.m. Friday and police are calling it a murder-suicide. It was not yet known who fired the gun.

Covington, Ga. -- A 35-year-old woman was shot and killed by the father of one of her children during a domestic dispute at a home about 11 p.m. last Sunday and, after fleeing the scene, the father later shot and killed himself. Two children, ages 15 and 8, at home at the time of the shooting were not injured.

Boca Raton, Fla. -- A 22-year-old man died last Sunday after he was accidentally shot in the chest at an apartment when his 20-year-old girlfriend picked up a firearm she thought was unloaded and it discharged.

Houston, Tex. -- Police have arrested a 45-year-old man who allegedly shot and killed his 48-year-old wife at their residence on Friday while their pre-teen daughter was at the home. The child was not injured.

Warren, Ohio -- A 63-year-old man accidentally shot and killed himself in a tree stand while hunting on Monday.

Adams, Penn. -- A 42-year-old man out hunting Saturday afternoon was accidentally shot and killed by another member of his hunting party.

Panama City, Fla. -- A man with a gunshot wound to his head was found dead near an ocean bay about 2 p.m. Tuesday. Police found a 12-gauge shotgun under his body and his death was being investigated as a possible suicide.

Birmingham, Ala. -- Police responding to a call found a man fatally shot about 1:30 a.m. today.

Evanston, Ill. -- A 30-year-old man was fatally shot about 6:20 p.m. last night.

Kansas City, Mo. -- A 33-year-old man was found fatally shot in a home about 11 p.m. Friday.

Wilmington, Del. -- Three men - ages 24, 22, and 21 - and a 33-year-old woman were shot about 2 a.m. Saturday when gunfire erupted at a nightclub after an event that was attended by between 600 and 700 people. Five cars were also damaged by gunfire. The four victims were reported to have non life-threatening injuries.

Ambridge, Penn. -- Two men and a woman were shot at a bar about 1 a.m. today after some women became involved in an altercation there and the argument spilled out onto the street where a man pulled a handgun and began shooting. One of the men is in serious condition with a chest wound. The other man is in stable condition and the woman was treated and released.

Corpus Christi, Tex. -- A 16-year-old boy accidentally shot his 15-year-old girlfriend at her home Thursday night. No word on her condition.

Chickasha, Okla. -- A man plying with a handgun accidentally shot himself in the head about 2:30 a.m. last Friday. His girlfriend, who was in the room, was not injured. No charges were filed. He was expected to survive.

Philadelphia, Penn. -- A 21-year old woman sitting on a bench while waiting for a train was accidentally shot in the face last Friday when an off-duty security guard next to her was going through his bag and his weapon fired. The bullet ricochet off a table and a wall before striking the woman in the cheek. She was expected to recover.

San Antonio, Tex. -- A woman looking at guns with family members was accidentally shot near her hip on Tuesday. No word on her condition.

Kingsport, Tenn. -- About 1:40 p.m. last Friday, after a 59-year-old man bought a Christmas tree, he went to his vehicle to get a tree stand and upon opening the door, a loaded 12-gauge shotgun in the back of the vehicle apparently shifted causing the trigger to hit something and the gun to fire. He was struck in the pelvic area and a vehicle parked next to his was also hit. No one else was injured in the blast. The man was in critical condition in intensive care.

Moses Lake, Wash. -- When a 69-year-old man cleaning a handgun in a living room accidentally pulled the trigger, he shot himself in the forearm and his daughter-in-law in the chest as other family members sat nearby. Neither of the victims have life-threatening injuries. Police said no charges were anticipated at this time.

De Soto, Mo. -- A 32-year-old man attempting to unload a handgun at an apartment accidentally shot a 21-year-old woman in the neck. Her injuries were not considered life-threatening.

Grand Rapids, Mich. -- A man accidentally shot himself in the stomach while cleaning his gun around 7:45 p.m. Thursday. His injuries were considered non life-threatening.

Pocatello, Idaho -- After shopping at a big-box home-improvement store last Saturday morning, a man accidentally shot himself outside the store while placing his handgun into a holster when he returned to his vehicle. No one else in the area was struck by the flying bullet. His injuries were considered non life-threatening.

Jacksonville, Fla. -- A man was struck once after multiple shots were fired about 6:40 p.m. yesterday. His injuries were considered non life-threatening.

Oakland, Calif. -- A 22-year-old man was shot by an 18-year-old acquaintance after they got into an argument about 9:20 p.m. Friday. The victim was listed in stable condition.

Norwalk, Conn. -- When a 50-year-old man dropped his handgun and tried to catch it while at home Saturday afternoon, the weapon accidentally fired sending a bullet through the ceiling and into a neighboring apartment where it went through a closet and a dresser. No one was injured in the incident. The man was charged with reckless endangerment and illegal discharge of a firearm.

Today’s sources: ABC news radio, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Associated Press, Birmingham News, Bristol (Va.) Herald Courier, Chicago Tribune, The Covington (Ga.) News, The (Grady County, Okla.) Express-Star, Houston Chronicle, KCTV-TV Kansas City, KMOV-TV St. Louis, KTVB-TV Boise, KXLY-TV Spokane, KZTV-TV Corpus Christi, Lansing State Journal, Murder-suicide.blogspot.com, (Panama City, Fla.) News Herald, Norwalk (Conn.) Daily Voice, Oakland Tribune, Philadelphia Inquirer, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Portland (Me.) Daily Sun, Reuters, San Antonio Express-News, San Jose Mercury News, Savannah Morning News, South Florida Sun-Sentinel, The Tampa Tribune, Ventura County Star, WBMA-TV Birmingham, WHNS-TV Greenville (S.C.), WILX-TV Lansing, WRAL-TV Raleigh, WXIX-TV Cincinnati, WXMI-TV Grand Rapids

Addendum for December 8, 2013
If today is an average day, some 277 Americans will be shot by a gun. And 84 of those who are shot will die.

The story will repeat itself tomorrow, and the day after that, and the day after that, and on and on and on.

Help stop this slaughter.

Please call, write, email, or FAX your representatives in Washington, D.C. and tell them to support common sense gun control. Do it today. And do it again next week. And do it again every week after that until they get the message.

You’ll find contact information here:

www.contactingthecongress.org

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If this does not qualify as big news then I don't know what does.

[aikoaiko]

1. IBTL.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022542300

Skinner:
Subject Line: Current GD "big news" exceptions

Statement of Purpose for the General Discussion forum:

Discuss politics, issues, and current events. No posts about Israel/Palestine, religion, guns, showbiz, or sports unless there is really big news. No conspiracy theories. No whining about DU.

Status of "big news" exceptions:

There are currently no special exceptions.

[Bjorn Against]

3. The GD rules state we can post gun threads when there is big news.

I don't see how anyone could claim this many deaths and injuries are not big news.

[aikoaiko]

4. Tell us..are these shootings more than usual? less than usual?

Or just another day as the title suggests (implying it is not big news)?

[Bjorn Against]

7. There is really big gun news every day

When people find that really big news I think they should post it here daily.

[Duckhunter935]

9. And how many car drivers

and pedestrians were killed. That must be really big news also right?

[Bjorn Against]

11. Feel free to post a list of car deaths in GD, no one is stopping you

I would agree that car deaths are big news, but that does not mean we should ignore gun deaths.

[CreekDog]

44. you don't actually want government passing any new laws about pedestrian safety either

no make any other changes related to engineering.

your position on pedestrian safety is remarkably similar to yours on guns.

limited to "enforce existing laws only".

as if existing laws were divinely inspired and cannot be changed for fear of who knows what.

[The Straight Story]

13. Ohhhhhhh I get it! You think GUNS do these things not people. Hunh

Less than 1% of all gun owners do bad things with them, there are over 200 million guns in the US, 50 states and over 350 million people.

And this is all you could find?

Is .6% or less an epidemic? Do we blame knives, ladders, cars or those using them?

Shall I proceed to post 349.99 Million stories in this thread about people not affected by 'guns' (because we all know the problem is not people.....)

[Bjorn Against]

15. Every single one of these stories have one thing in common, they all involve a gun

I am told they all involve legal gun owners as well, although I don't want to vouch for that as there may be some exceptions to that rule.

People pull the trigger to guns but it is the gun that delivers the fatal blow so yes, guns do kill.

[The Straight Story]

16. And, again, what percent do so - and how do you map that to all others?

Do you handle it like the RW and Muslims/Islam - post every story you can of the negative variety to re-enforce your personal belief all are bad and need to be controlled/removed?

Or do you note that it represents a tiny tiny minority and most are decent people who should not be painted with a non-progressive broad brush and work with those people to effect change?

[Bjorn Against]

18. A large enough percentage to create a massively long list like this one

Not every gun owner needs to be a bad person for us to recognize that there is a serious problem with gun violence in this country.

Nice attempt to try to paint me as a bigot by suggesting I hold views on Muslims that I never expressed, you are completely wrong but I am sure it made you feel better to try to paint me as a bigot.

[The Straight Story]

20. Wow, nice way to miss the whole point

It was about methods, not what you thought about Muslims.

The same method applies.

Are there problems we need to fix? Yep. Is part of fixing them thinking gun owners are all wack out nut job gun humpers and we need to only allow people in government and rich folks to have guns? Nope.

MOST a huge majority of gun owners are responsible. That is just a fact. Over 45 million of them - and if you let the minority color how you see the majority I call that bigotry.

[Bjorn Against]

21. I never said anything about all gun owners, you are completely misrepresenting my position

It is not about the personal qualities of every person that owns a gun, it is about the fact that people are dropping dead by the thousands and we can not ignore the problem just because some people would prefer we don't talk about the facts.

[Duckhunter935]

27. So how do we end it

I am sure you have all of the answers

[Bjorn Against]

29. I don't have all the answers, but we can start with getting rid of some of the NRA written laws

Getting rid of Stand Your Ground, holding gun owners legally accountable for all "accidental" shootings, putting additional safety regulations in place to reduce the deadly potential of newly manufactured weapons, mandatory licensing which includes training and regular competency tests, those are a few things we could do to reduce gun violence.

[Duckhunter935]

31. you mean fully funding and enforcing existing laws

putting additional safety regulations in place to reduce the deadly potential of newly manufactured weapons,

Unsure what you mean here.

I have advocated for licenses for a long time, should they be like drivers licenses? You will fund and perform these competency tests and how often should this be done?

[Bjorn Against]

33. Those taking the exams will fund them with fees

We can put regulations in place to limit the power and rate of fire of newly manufactured weapons, you won't like it but it should be done.

As far as the exams go it should require a basic knowledge about the danger that guns pose as well as proof of gun handling and shooting competency. The people who take the exam can pay a fee to fund it just as I had to pay a fee for my drivers license exam.

[NYC_SKP]

52. Sure, yeah. However, every single murder, ever, in history had one thing in common.

A murderer, a person.

Treat the person, you end all murders.

Treat the weapon, you send the murderer to find another means-- at the expense of the majority of gun owners who would like to enjoy the rights they have in this country.

It's not rocket science.

[CreekDog]

45. guns make killing faster, easier than almost anything else

unlike almost anything else in society, guns are only designed to kill.

[NYC_SKP]

48. No, governments, corporations, and defense budgets make killing faster, easier than almost anything.

And, still ahead of constitutionally protected firearms, these things make killing faster and easier:

Mass arson.

Poison gas.

Poisoning water.

Home made bombs.

I could go on but don't need to except for with a few of my special friends.

Firearms mass murders don't even make one of the top ten list of mass murders committed in the history of humankind.

[CreekDog]

50. none of those are as easy as getting a gun

not only that, a gun is designed to kill.

you know this, it's why you are attempting to sway GD hosts behind the scenes to lock any and all gun posts.

[Hoyt]

53. +1000000

[Walk away]

14. I agree. The epidemic of gun violence in America is BIG NEWS.

Just because all of the victims aren't school kids doesn't make their deaths un-newsworthy.

[Bjorn Against]

17. Thank you, it seems obvious to me that it is big news.

There are some people who would prefer we are uninformed about this reality however.

[Niceguy1]

41. and the biggest chunk

Is suicide...which indicates that increased mental healthcare access would be the best thing we could do.

[Bjorn Against]

5. Thanks for posting the SOP which clearly states "unless there is really big news"

It is quite obvious that this is really big news.

[aikoaiko]

6. You didn't read the whole post, did you?

[Bjorn Against]

8. I did read it, but Skinner never said we need to go to him for approval every time news breaks

Skinner has given the hosts a great deal of leeway, if you read the Ask the Admins forum it is quite clear that he is not enforcing as strict of limits as you are trying to enforce.

[Duckhunter935]

10. so its not really big news

[Bjorn Against]

12. It is very big news, do you really think all those deaths are not news?

[Packerowner740]

42. Sad to say but this just seems like everyday news and I am all for stricter gun regulations

[Hoyt]

54. To actually get that, it needs to stay visible, not hidden.

[Union Scribe]

38. you'd think so

but it seems even clear cut SOP violations can't be/stay locked.

[shenmue]

2. Mercy

This is so awful.

[Kingofalldems]

19. Gimme my guns.

[billh58]

22. To the gun huggers

this is just the price we all must pay for the freedom to kill each other. Hooray for the USA: the most armed and dangerous nation in the "civilized" world.

[spanone]

23. k&r...

[onehandle]

24. Ev'ry drop of blood is worth mah freedumb! nt

[BrotherIvan]

25. If anyone thinks this is no big deal then you may have to check your sanity

Murder-suicide: no big deal
Kids shooting themselves or other kids: no big deal
Idiots messing around with a gun and shooting an innocent neighbor: no big deal
Men murdering their wives and kids: no big deal
Mothers shooting their own children: no big deal

And on and on and on

Then the same old tired shit about knives and cars. If you could read even a quarter of this post and not feel even the SLIGHTEST bit of horror, dismay, shock or sadness, then you have no compassion or empathy whatsoever. It is rife with evil and sadness and grief and your first reaction is to defend your guns?

Fucking sick.

And as you all run over here to blurt out your NRA talking points, please, I beg of you, just for one moment, pick a three inch vertical space of this post and read it again. Think about the families, the lives that have been ruined by those little hunks of metal. And imagine, is there SOME WAY we can prevent these horrible crimes from happening all over our country EVERY DAMN DAY? Just stop and allow yourself to think about it for one whole minute.

To those who cannot even accomplish this, please don't waste any time with me as I refuse to answer your posts. This is madness and it must END.

[TheCowsCameHome]

26. Humpers couldn't care less

as long as no one comes to confiscate their weapons

[Duckhunter935]

28. and the solution is?

Or are you just going to link to a post and have no comments at all about it

[Bjorn Against]

30. I have been making lots of comments, just read above

[Duckhunter935]

32. Yes I see

even though it seems to be a daily occurrence it is big news




Added sarcasm smiley to eliminate the confusion

[Bjorn Against]

34. For once we agree, it is big news

[Duckhunter935]

35. you are reaching there

because we do not agree but thanks for trying to tell me how I think.

[Vashta Nerada]

36. Moar. Gunz.

[Agschmid]

37. Petition to unlock approved.

Last edited Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:07 AM - Edit history (1)

[Bjorn Against]

40. Thank you, our hosts are great!

[Bjorn Against]

39. Thank you to the hosts who unlocked this thread on appeal

I respect the work that the hosts of this site do and I would say the same thing even if they had chosen to keep it locked.

[Packerowner740]

43. Just another day in paradise

[neverforget]

47. I see that the gunz rule crowd is upset that this was posted.

Gunz haz a sad.

[ScreamingMeemie]

55. I would just rather that both sides kept their battle where it belonged.

SOP violation here.

[ScreamingMeemie]

49. Ugh. Guns in GD...

Why have an SOP?

[Eleanors38]

51. Same Standard Issue TOS violation. Sorry DUers: Banner run the show again.

Boy have I gotta lotta videos of armed self-defense. From all over, too! Now, I'll be willing to post a Warning! Graphic Content! to the posts, but there are enough from "Across the Nation and Around the World" to make it a re-e-e-ally big shoe -- oh! I mean newz. And by golly, it happens in America everyday, too.

Hosts of GD note: dowm thread, the usual boil-lancing hatred has squirted from the usual Local, hyped-up police blotter OPs that has ALWAYS plagued GD. Good job, guys.

As a matter of courtesy, please tell Skinner et all that you are junking the TOS re guns so that all GD may get ready for:

More and more of the same.

[Hoyt]

56. Oh come on, you gun promoters are just too obvious.