Another school shooting - this time in New Mexico

[malaise]

A teacher stopped the Seventh grader - 12 years old.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/student-shotgun-shoot-students-roswell-mexico/story?id=21526542
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A middle school student opened fire in his gym with a shotgun today and critically wounded two students in Roswell, N.M., according to authorities.

The injured were a 13-year-old girl and a 12-year-old boy who were "simply sitting in their gym waiting to go to class," New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez said. The shooting occurred shortly before class was to begin at Berrendo Middle School.

The Eastern New Mexico Medical Center confirmed it treated two patients, who were then air lifted to the University Medical Center in Lubbock, Texas, located about 175 miles from the middle school.

A spokesperson for UMC said the boy, who the governor said was 12, is out of surgery and is listed in critical condition. The girl, 13, is also being treated at the hospital and is listed in serious condition, according to the spokesperson. A school staff member suffered a minor injury and declined treatment.

[WillyT]

1. :( ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

The perfect topping, to the perfect day.

[Helen Highwater]

2. We need more gun control laws...like make it illegal to take a gun

into a school.

[ManiacJoe]

3. I was going to ask how no one notices a 12-year-old with a shot gun,

but the article answered that question:

When the boy entered the gym, Carranza said she saw him pull a gun out of a band instrument case and begin shooting.

[Octafish]

5. Kids learn from adults: killing is how we solve problems.

I'm so old, I remember when it wasn't like that.

Since November 22, 1963: Money trumps peace in the USA.

Prayers for the kids in New Mexico.

[malaise]

10. When an uncooth thug like Christie can be paraded and promoted as leadership material

we should no longer wonder why kids now settle their problems with guns.

[Le Taz Hot]

6. I'm completely confused.

One report says he is a 12-year-old and has been taken into custody. If you watch the 2nd video, it says he is a senior in high school and he shot himself at the school.

Are there 2 different shootings?

[Warpy]

7. No, just a lot of confusion right now

All we know is that two kids were hurt in a school shooting.

Tomorrow there will be more information.

I'm just surprised it doesn't happen more often here, NM is a big gun state.

[Le Taz Hot]

9. That's too bad.

I've driven through New Mexico and, being a desert lover, thought it was a beautiful state. Too bad the pro-penis-extender gang has to tarnish that.

[Warpy]

24. It's not just them, although they do exist here

NM is still mostly wild because it's lousy agricultural land. We have bears, cougars and rattlesnakes to deal with and residents on the outer edge of the city on into the boonies need those guns.

They're not generally swaggering assholes about it, preferring to fire a warning round to get the varmints out of the garbage. A second round is necessary in case it's the one animal in a million who charges.

Back east I hated guns with good reason and wished they'd all go away. Out here, I realize people need them.

[passiveporcupine]

26. How necessary is a gun if you have the right dogs?

I have bear, cougar, rattlesnake, coyote, bobcat, racoon and red-tailed hawk here as predators, and I don't have a gun. But I do have a livestock protector dog. Dogs work pretty good at dealing with stuff like this. Or precautions you can take, like not putting your garbage or livestock feed in a place where bears and racoons can get to it.

Guns are not as necessary as a lot of people think. They are just easy and for a lot of people, fun to use.

[Warpy]

27. Hungry bears even come down here in the city in spring and fall.

They're darted and usually set free somewhere else in the mountains.

Most people do have dogs. The dogs let them know some varmint is in the garbage.

And I use garbage lightly, since bears will try to break into everything looking for food.

[passiveporcupine]

28. I know about bears

Three years ago I had a bear problem. Mamma looking for food in the fall. Shredded a plastic trash can, tore down all my bird feeders, and would have gotten into my livestock food if my new livestock pup hadn't alerted me. He was three months old and chased her away twice in one day. I got smart and locked everything edible away. Stopped putting out my trash until the morning of pickup, and didn't refill and hang my feeders again. In the spring we started having problems again. One night I heard noises outside and I looked out the back door and a cub was hanging on a tree ten feet from my back porch. My dog barking inside scared it. No mamma in sight. That was the last time I saw the bears.

I didn't shoot them. I didn't have the forest service shoot them (they won't relocate here...they just kill them). I just got smart in the way I handled edibles outside until the bears moved on. I've been here 17 years and that is the only time I've had a problem with bears, although I have bear scat in my yard every year.

If you manage your feed and trash properly, you don't have to kill them. If they kill livestock, that's a different story. But they rarely do that, unless they are starving. My little pup is now a three year old livestock protector and he's fabulous. He treed a mountain lion this spring that was coming down for my chickens. It never came back. He chases the coyotes away...and the hawks. Everything. He protects this place like a mamma dog protects her litter. It's what he was bred for.

[petronius]

8. It's referring to Arapahoe HS in Colorado last month - so it's two events, but

one of them was today (NM) and one was in December (CO)...

[Le Taz Hot]

11. OK, thank you.

Horrible tragedies in both cases. Remember when you used to be able to attend school, learn stuff, and then go home in one piece? (sigh)

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. It used to be the shooting of the year, now it is the shooting of the week

It did not even warrant breaking news on scene reporting.

[malaise]

14. Tamron Hall broke it but didn't have details

Amazing - Bieber's egging of a neighbor's house got more coverage than this.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Exactomundo

I fear that a shooting the size of Sandy Hook is now normal. And that is dangerous.

[malaise]

18. Have you seen any coverage of the 6.5 quake in Puerto Rico yesterday?

You now have to have one worse than Haiti or Japan. It's frightening sis - we're completely desensitized.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. I did not even know there was one

and my app did not go off. What the hell is going? I got several apps and they are supposed to scream with a 4.5 and above

[malaise]

20. Amazing - no coverage on TV n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Well, it did NOT happen in the US

remember the quake over Eastern a few years back? There was major damage in Brawley, (Mexicali is in a fureigner land anyway) and in El Centro, coverage was not beyond local news.

Here for that one

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Strong-Quake-Shakes-San-Diego-County--89880662.html

[malaise]

22. Maybe that New Mexico thingy

affected coverage of this shooting.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Maybe, I gotta wonder,

if it bleeds it leads is the motto, but issues that run deeper do not touch. Shootings are starting to run deeper, as in real policy and shit.

[spanone]

13. ...

[Jefferson23]

15. We certainly tolerate a lot. n/t

[shenmue]

16. Lord have mercy

[ReRe]

25. Babies....

... shooting babies.

[raven mad]

29. When this happens, and so much anymore, my heart breaks.

I usually go to Light a Candle, http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng
It helps my healing, as I am not Christian and don't generally pray.