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http://www.alternet.org/noah-took-baby-dinosaur-ark-5-extremist-christian-science-teachings***SNIP
1. The Loch Ness Monster Disproves Evolution
Science PACE (Packet of Accelerated Christian Education) 1099 contains this priceless wisdom:
Some scientists speculate that Noah took small or baby dinosaurs on the Ark . are dinosaurs still alive today? With some recent photographs and testimonies of those who claimed to have seen one, scientists are becoming more convinced of their existence
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2. Solar Fusion Is a Myth
The sun, as everybody knows, works by nuclear fusion. Unfortunately, ACE has a pet theory, outlined on pages 7-9 of Science 1096 (a PACE devoted entirely to refuting evolution, packed with misinformation and distortions of the truth). In short, these creationists want to prove that the sun is shrinking. If the sun is shrinking at a constant rate, then billions of years ago it would have swallowed up the earth. This, they say, proves that the universe must be young.
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3. Japanese Whaling Boat Found a Dinosaur
From the same page as the Loch Ness Monster claim comes this:
A Japanese fishing vessel brought up the decomposing body of a dinosaurlike sea creature off the coast of New Zealand. Caught at a depth of 900 feet, the creature weighed 4,000 pounds, measured 32 feet in length, and was seen and photgraphed by the crew members. The animal could not be matched with any living species but certainly resembles a supposedly extinct species of dinosaur.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)..But I thought this only pertained to young Republicans that have the right wing nut ideology bred into them.
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)you know...sex is baaaadd.
malaise
(268,881 posts)creationists was The Flintstones
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malaise
(268,881 posts)SamKnause
(13,091 posts)Science PACE (Packet of Accelerated Christian Education) teaches no one.
They indoctrinate and brainwash.
They have zero interest in teaching facts.
Their goal is to turn the U.S. into a Theocracy and allow corporations to control all aspects of the government.
The John Birch Society has a totally different take on the Bible, as do many religious factions in this country.
They believe if you are rich "God" has chosen you and will give you power.
They have only contempt for the poor and struggling masses.
riqster
(13,986 posts)...to create a better idiot.
"Life, give my creature LIFE!"
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Now get your lab partner and we'll try turning your pencil into a gold nugget.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)you do that in chemistry.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Wonder what they use for bait? All the whaling ships I have seen on video used harpoons on whales at the surface, not trolling the ocean at 900 feet like these Japanese Whalers...
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)They have answers to support young earth creationism. Unfortunately their answers betray a complete misunderstanding of the theory of evolution and science in general. It is so very sad.
No wonder they still believe Iraq had WMDs and Obama is a Muslim Kenyan communist.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)They pretend to know science and Jesus, when they know neither.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)another_liberal
(8,821 posts)It's about pretending to believe what you are told to believe by the people you dare not disobey.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Bottom of the barrel, indeed.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)There is, after all, a "scientific case" to be made for Geocentrism...
http://geocentrism.com/gww.htm
Galileo Was Wrong
A Two Volume Set
By Robert Sungenis and Robert Bennett
The Galileo Was Wrong book is now complete. Currently, there are two volumes available:
1. Galileo Was Wrong, the Church Was Right, Volume I: The Scientific Case for Geocentrism, by Dr. Robert Sungenis and Dr. Robert Bennett. 650 pgs.
2. Galileo Was Wrong, the Church Was Right, Volume II :
The Historical Case for Geocentrism, by Dr. Robert Sungenis. 400 pages.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)awwwwwww
FSogol
(45,470 posts)It is a decomposing Basking Shark:
Good article on what was found:
http://paleo.cc/paluxy/plesios.htm
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)No need to feed, and no Dino poop to clean up.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Must be an example of that there fancy scientist type talk?
Praise the Lord! I'm convinced!
Blanks
(4,835 posts)The thing is (as we learn in great detail in differential equations) 2 units of each species is not enough to perpetuate the species.
What if the female giraffe tripped on her way out busted her head and died - giraffes become extinct.
The whole idea has flaws. I suppose they aren't training these kids up to take diff-eq when they're older.
jmowreader
(50,552 posts)After Noah finished the ark - without anyone noticing he was building a wooden Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate with handsaws, axes and mallets - God changed his mind about the number of animals to take aboard: seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, seven pairs of every kind of bird and one pair of every kind of unclean animal.
Question for biblical scholars: in this calculation, do birds of prey, which are unclean, fall into the "bird" or "unclean animal" category? And considering Noah took one pair of mice, one pair of rats and a very long list of animals that eat rodents, why do we have vermin today? For that matter, since he took a pair of lions and a pair of tigers on a year-long ocean voyage, why are there animals besides lions and tigers in the world today?
This REALLY fucks the "there's no such thing as evolution" schtick because you couldn't fit seven pairs of every kind of clean animal that we have today in an aircraft carrier - and a carrier is far larger than Noah's Ark was. And don't forget he has to carry a year's worth of food for all these animals, plus food for his family, plus food for all the extra family members to be added when Noah and his clan realize the only things to do on the ark are eat, pray, sleep, feed animals and screw.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Of clean animals for food, but clearly the entire system wouldn't have worked.
Some theorize that what flooded was the garden of Eden at the end of the last ice age around 10,000 years ago. That would have been the entire world to the people who lived there at that time.
I expect that some guy who survived by floating on a log for a couple of days after the dam burst could spin a pretty good yarn to anyone else he ran into if suddenly everything flooded.
...then (after embellishing it for decades) they wrote his stories down. That's my theory.
jmowreader
(50,552 posts)Or whatever local folklore character you had in your area.
The Old Testament is one-third survival manual (don't eat animals whose consumption has killed people, don't have sex that won't make healthy babies), one third regional history manual (locusts do swarm and I'm sure whole villages died of starvation when they lost their crops to locust swarms) and one third scary stories of what happens to you when you stray from societal norms.
The New Testament? How hard would it be for "Jesus and his friends saved the wedding feast of Cana by purchasing seven barrels of wine" to become "Jesus turned seven barrels of water into wine"? Or "he waded to shore" into walking on water? The whole NT reads like the exploits of an ordinary man blown out of proportion by a people who sorely needed a hero in its darkest hour.
The difference is, no one ever died over the way they interpreted Paul Bunyan or Uncle Remus stories.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)They missed the boat.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)to test our faith. Now they've changed their minds and man walked with dinosaurs.
When facts don't suit your dogma, you can't change your dogma.
TheOther95Percent
(1,035 posts)marmar
(77,066 posts)jmowreader
(50,552 posts)Then the translators of the first English bible came along...
"Brother James, what the hell are ethylene glycol and maleic acid?" (two of the chemicals in fiberglass resin)
"I have no idea, Brother Fred, and neither will anyone who reads this. Just leave 'em out."
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)I'd like to know what all you lefties have against baby dinosaurs!??!!
jmowreader
(50,552 posts)They're cute and cuddly and if they wouldn't have all evolved into ostriches five million years before the first human walked the earth we'd find them in the grocer's meat case.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)I wonder if that's how a T Rex would view Rush Limbaugh?
Hmmmm...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If hard science can be sunk with the torpedo of bullshit, they can pull it off with the 6,000 year old Earth. They don't need "Nessie"
struggle4progress
(118,271 posts)The evidence for nuclear fusion in the sun is pretty good, and a fair amount of the evidence can be explained to people without any terribly advanced theory
Before the discovery of nuclear reactions, the source of the sun's radiant energy was unclear: one possibility seemed to be that the energy might gravitational: as the sun contracted, the gravitational energy might be converted to heat and released as radiation -- but this theory did not seem to give correct results. The first clue came from nineteenth century spectroscopic studies, when a spectral line was discovered in the sun's emission that did not correspond to any then-known element found on earth, and the hypothetical new element was called Helium, from the Greek word helios ("sun" . Helium was first isolated on earth around the turn of the last century and shortly afterwards was found to be the element associated with the alpha particle emission of radioactive elements -- which led briefly to the theory that solar radiation originated from radioactive decay of heavy elements in the sun's core, a theory that was abandoned when evidence of any significant radioactive mass in the sun failed to emerge. Meanwhile, deep drilling for oil produced usable sources of helium that had been formed by alpha decay of radioactive elements and then had remained trapped in rock formations. By 1920, very precise measurements of the respective masses of hydrogen and helium atoms revealed that the helium nucleus weighed slightly less than four hydrogen nuclei. The missing piece of the puzzle was then suggested to be Einstein's equation for mass-energy equivalence: the fusion of four hydrogen atoms into a helium atom might convert some mass into energy. The theory has since been worked out in considerable and partly testable detail since: a quick summary can be found here. The fusion bombs developed mid-twentieth century, of course, provide some evidence that the nuclear fusion theorists really had some idea what they were talking about
One thing notable about this story is that the principal scientists involved were not biologist and did not typically publish on the theory of evolution: they were mostly astronomers and physicists, interested in the source of the sun's radiant power
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)religion will fly you into buildings.
I know it's hard but just accept it, this is it. This is your shot, take it.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)What are these children going to do when it comes time for college? They will be so ill prepared for the real world, that I can't help but wonder what will become of them.
The more I think about it, the angrier it makes me. The parents are willfully putting their kids at a huge disadvantage.
Poor kids.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)The Bush admin hired some number of folks with degrees from them.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The bolded part is what matters here. I share my house with a couple of them, we just call them birds. Oh and every time you enjoy chicken, you are having a descendant of t-Rex.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Who knew?
dawg
(10,622 posts)Noah and his family ran out of food on the Ark, and it became increasingly apparent that one pair of animals would have to be eaten. Since no one was sure how much longer the world would be flooded, it only made sense to start with the largest animals and then work their way down.
Ultimately, Noah was forced with a choice of eating either the dinosaurs or the elephants. He prayed over this, and God told him that since the elephant would someday be the symbol of the Republican party, Noah should eat the dinosaurs instead. Also, the dinosaurs would taste like chicken.
They did, by the way.
(Taste like chicken, that is.)
Yum.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)most of these same students would go on to take A/P Biology, A/P history, etc.
Public suburban PA. school.