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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:37 PM Jan 2014

Christie’s Crisis Plunges Republican Party Deeper Into The Wilderness-"Many On The Brink Of Panic"

Chris Christie’s Crisis Plunges Republican Party Deeper Into The Wilderness
The establishment freaks out as another favorite son falls from grace. “There are definitely people jumping ship.”


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But after a brutal year of setbacks, scandals, and political floundering capped this month by a controversy that threatens to sink New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s political career, the Republican establishment is warily scanning its bruised and bloodied field of potential 2016 standard-bearers — and many of the party poobahs are on the brink of panic.

In interviews with more than a dozen party officials, fundraisers, and strategists in New York and Washington over the past 10 days, Republicans described a palpable sense of anxiety gripping the GOP establishment in the wake of Christie’s meltdown, and an emerging consensus that the once promising cast of candidates they were counting on to save the GOP from the tea party — and the nation from Hillary Clinton — is looking less formidable by the week.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio — declared “The Republican Savior” on the cover of Time magazine last January — fell from grace after his attempt to pass comprehensive immigration reform, and his subsequent flip-flop on the bill, was met with revolt from the right, and a chorus of scorn from the left. Meanwhile, the establishment’s other favorite son, Jeb Bush, virtually vanished after half-heartedly feeding the 2016 buzz during his short-lived book tour last spring. Since then, he has shown little interest in building a presidential campaign, and on Thursday his own mother said she hopes he doesn’t run.

Now, with federal and local investigators digging into the George Washington Bridge scandal — an effort that will likely result in a subpoena for Bridget Kelly, the senior aide Christie fired for ordering the bridge closure, and the release of thousands more pages of internal documents — Christie’s supporters are bracing for the worst.


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http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/chris-christies-crisis-plunges-republican-party-deeper-into
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Christie’s Crisis Plunges Republican Party Deeper Into The Wilderness-"Many On The Brink Of Panic" (Original Post) kpete Jan 2014 OP
That was fun to read! Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #1
As were the comments! calimary Jan 2014 #24
And yet they still control the conversation in Washington Fumesucker Jan 2014 #2
..and they control the US House and Senate with the filibuster, not to mention the SC. AlinPA Jan 2014 #5
Well, there is no effective opposition. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #17
The GOP does not want repeat of the 2012 GOP primary debates Gothmog Jan 2014 #3
Wait-I thought that the 2012 Debates Dread Pirate Roberts Jan 2014 #7
I couldn't agree more. The only mistake the Republicans made was not A Simple Game Jan 2014 #23
They have plenty of time to figure it out. President Obama was a freshman senator mucifer Jan 2014 #4
The GOP doesn't have a Senator, Freshman or otherwise that has the statue that President bluestate10 Jan 2014 #10
Actually they did - he was asked even in 2005 if he would run karynnj Jan 2014 #22
good warrior1 Jan 2014 #6
It just helps Karl Rove position Jeb for 2016. David Zephyr Jan 2014 #8
Mama Bush spoke against Jeb running again malaise Jan 2014 #9
More than interesting. Hilarious. pscot Jan 2014 #13
However, Jeb lacks the 'fire in the belly' . . . MrModerate Jan 2014 #14
He's really all they had. This is entirely amusing to me. TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #11
Frankly, the paragraph that included "frankly, we need Mitt" was unnerving to me. byronius Jan 2014 #12
He's maybe the only grownup they've got . . . MrModerate Jan 2014 #16
Well said. I hope to hell you are correct. byronius Jan 2014 #36
Aw, they can just go back to that awesome bench they had in '12! Warren DeMontague Jan 2014 #15
The 2016 Republican Primary Candidates davidpdx Jan 2014 #39
Tanned, rested, ready...Nixon in '16! First Speaker Jan 2014 #18
Nixon? Much too liberal for today's GOP 0rganism Jan 2014 #28
Are the Kochs on Suicide Watch Yet? BodieTown Jan 2014 #19
Jeb Bush. "on Thursday his own mother said she hopes he doesn’t run." Hotler Jan 2014 #20
Will the Republicans turn to a "Man on Horseback?" another_liberal Jan 2014 #21
When republicans are on the brink, there's only one thing to do... Zorra Jan 2014 #25
nice Bradical79 Jan 2014 #26
Is Petraeus an option? Benton D Struckcheon Jan 2014 #27
I know how their "Panic" translates... Cha Jan 2014 #29
Benghazi! napkinz Jan 2014 #43
Brawawawawaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Cha Jan 2014 #45
kick Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #30
That was so tasty, I had to read it twice. Snarkoleptic Jan 2014 #31
Scott Walker to the rescue! rusty fender Jan 2014 #32
Maybe Romney will give it another try. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #33
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #34
I'd put money on Rick Snyder, Governor of Michigan Demeter Jan 2014 #35
Every time he wants to change the subject he says: "Again!..." Festivito Jan 2014 #37
I know. I wondered why there were no campaign ads on radio Demeter Jan 2014 #38
Maybe they can run Rick Scott. polichick Jan 2014 #40
No way he would have gotten the nomination madville Jan 2014 #41
panic! this is perfect ---> napkinz Jan 2014 #42
more panic ... napkinz Jan 2014 #44
K&R! Rex Jan 2014 #46

Gothmog

(145,142 posts)
3. The GOP does not want repeat of the 2012 GOP primary debates
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:42 PM
Jan 2014

Without Christie and Jeb, there is no true front runner. Scott Walker may fill that role if he is re-elected in 2014 but I am really hoping that Wisconsin will vote this idiot out of office. Without Walker, Christie or Jeb, the next only remaining mainstream candidate is Paul Ryan and I doubt that he can win in 2016.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
7. Wait-I thought that the 2012 Debates
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jan 2014

were a stroke of genius! It was a combination of Survivor, American Idol and a freak show! Perfect for the 2016 American T.V. audience! Why wouldn't they try it again?

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
23. I couldn't agree more. The only mistake the Republicans made was not
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:36 PM
Jan 2014

having the debates on pay-per-view, they could have made a fortune. Best comedy show of the season, bar none!

mucifer

(23,535 posts)
4. They have plenty of time to figure it out. President Obama was a freshman senator
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:43 PM
Jan 2014

no one was talking about at this time before the 2008 election.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
10. The GOP doesn't have a Senator, Freshman or otherwise that has the statue that President
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 08:18 PM
Jan 2014

Obama had as a freshman or Sophomore or Junior Senator. Period. I seriously don't know why you wrote what you wrote, seems like some sort of republican savior longing to me.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
22. Actually they did - he was asked even in 2005 if he would run
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:31 PM
Jan 2014

He was very well regarded thanks to his 2004 speech.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
8. It just helps Karl Rove position Jeb for 2016.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jan 2014

Rove will let the candidates rise and fall on their own before the arrival of the primaries, but when he can and when he feels he needs to, he will send the Bush family machine operatives to take out any credible challengers before the primaries. Call me crazy, but the Bush Family is a full government-in-waiting and has been since the late 1940's.

malaise

(268,949 posts)
9. Mama Bush spoke against Jeb running again
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:54 PM
Jan 2014

I found that interesting

http://swampland.time.com/2014/01/16/barbara-bush-on-jeb-i-hope-he-wont-run-for-president/
<snip>
Her full comments:

“I think this is a great American country, great country, and if we can’t find more than two or three families to run for high office, that’s silly, because there are great governors and great eligible people to run. And I think that the Kennedys, Clintons, Bushes, there are just more families than that. And I’m not arrogant enough to think that we alone are raising, but we’re — we’re raising public servants, whether they’re feeding the poor, like Lauren is, who’s fed 68 million children around the world, or Barbara, who’s bringing global health to the world, or Pierce is working for Big Brothers, Big Sisters.

But there are a lot of ways to serve. And being president is not the only one. And I would hope that someone else would run, although there’s no question in my mind that Jeb is the best qualified person to run for president, but I hope he won’t, because I think he’ll get all my enemies, all his brother’s, all — and there are other families. I refuse to accept that this great country isn’t raising other wonderful people.”
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Of course she was also taking a swipe at Hillary
Video at link

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
14. However, Jeb lacks the 'fire in the belly' . . .
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jan 2014

And would be a disastrous candidate. Not to mention the ideological baggage he'd have to carry would crush Atlas.

byronius

(7,394 posts)
12. Frankly, the paragraph that included "frankly, we need Mitt" was unnerving to me.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:29 PM
Jan 2014

I don't think I'd want to go through Mitt again without an Obama incumbency. I don't like it at all.

Name one Republican candidate that wouldn't spell the end of all life on earth. It's grotesque and spectacular.

We live in interesting times.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
16. He's maybe the only grownup they've got . . .
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:40 PM
Jan 2014

But would end up getting whacked just as soundly, even without Obama on the opposition ticket.

However, I don't think Romney is a masochist, and besides, there are all sorts of skeletons rattling in his numerous closets. If he so much as puts his head above the parapet, legions of oppo research guys will start rifling through those closets with a vengeance.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
18. Tanned, rested, ready...Nixon in '16!
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:49 PM
Jan 2014

...there is, of course, the absurd rumor that he's dead. But you know how the Lib'rul Media likes to lie...

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
28. Nixon? Much too liberal for today's GOP
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:05 PM
Jan 2014

Hell, even their blessed St. Reagan couldn't make it through their primaries these days. They need someone who effectively combines John Madden with Jason Voorhees, and that kind of combo isn't easy to come by.

Hotler

(11,420 posts)
20. Jeb Bush. "on Thursday his own mother said she hopes he doesn’t run."
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:17 PM
Jan 2014

Barry Seal was asked by his close friend, Rene Martin, if he feared being killed by the Ochoa family. Barry Seal replied that he was not afraid of the Colombians because he had not implicated senior members of the organization. Seal was more worried about his contacts within the US government. This view is supported by Lewis Unglesby, Seal’s lawyer. He confirmed that the man Seal was willing to testify against was George H. W. Bush.

On 19th February, 1986, Barry Seal returned to his Salvation Army hostel at 6.00 p.m. As he parked his white Cadillac he was approached by a man carrying a machine-gun. Two quick bursts hit Seal's head and body.

There was apparently another reason why George Bush wanted Seal dead. According to friends, Seal had a copy of a videotape of a 1985 DEA cocaine sting which had netted George Bush's two sons, George and Jeb, picking up kilos of cocaine at a Florida airport.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKseal.htm

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
21. Will the Republicans turn to a "Man on Horseback?"
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:18 PM
Jan 2014

Will they embrace the "New Eisenhower?"

Enter candidate Petraeus!

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
27. Is Petraeus an option?
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:01 PM
Jan 2014

As I recall, there was that infidelity thing right? Don't know how that would hold up in the Rep primaries.
Anyway, looking around at my usual sites elsewhere on the Internet, they really are - the total nuts that is - lined up behind Ted Cruz. Christie was the only one with the heft (NPI) to stop him.
Ted Cruz running for Prez would be a complete disaster for the GOP, but I don't see how they can stop him. He'd get the South, Utah, Alaska, maybe the Dakotas, Idaho, and that's about it. More moderate Republican states like Kansas would be a question mark.
Even in the South Virginia would likely be lost, North Carolina would at least be in play. Forget Florida. Georgia might even be in play.
With Christie they had a shot at blowing a big hole in the Northeast. Christie isn't totally done yet, but if this scandal does bury him, they have no one capable of doing the same. He was the only one who would have made 2016 a real race.

Cha

(297,156 posts)
29. I know how their "Panic" translates...
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:16 PM
Jan 2014
"Benghazi!!!!!111!!!"

"Republicon Savior" brawawaaa



They ain't seen Nothin' yet..

Hoboken Can Make Christie’s BridgeGate Look Like Small Potatoes

"New Jersey got billions from the Federal Government to help the state of New Jersey recover from the devastation of Hurricane Sandy. One of the cities that suffered was Hoboken and Chris Christie promised the people of the city that he would do whatever he can to help them recover, but when Hoboken’s mayor refused to endorse Christie’s re-election, Christie refused to hive the people of Hoboken the federal recovery funds/

If it is determined that the people of Hoboken did not get the recovery funds alloted from the federal government because of Christie’s political retribution, then this could be a criminal act. Chris Christie was in the middle of a reelection campaign. There is a law that governs campaign finance here this country, and all indications are that Chris Christie violated that campaign finance law when he took federal releaf funds and distributed those funds based on political endorsements political endorsements. That’s against the law."

The rest..

Hoboken
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
35. I'd put money on Rick Snyder, Governor of Michigan
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:23 PM - Edit history (1)

He's just the kind of smooth, polished asshole the Kochs would like: CPA, venture capitalist, Libertarian and Teahadist at the same time...of course, he wasn't able to prevent the Kochs taking flack for the mess they made on the Detroit River. That didn't improve his GOP image....

Regardless, they should take him for their standard bearer. I'd like to get Snyder out of my state, permanently. Being crushed like a bug in a national election ought to do it.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
37. Every time he wants to change the subject he says: "Again!..."
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:29 PM
Jan 2014

But, with all the money they've put into him, including a boatload of ads right here on DU, you could be spot-on accurate. He could be the best thing they have.

Ew, that voice though. Every S whistles, everything else resonates his nasal cavities.

When asked about his policies of distributing money from the underclass to the overclass... Again! Followed by word salad.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
38. I know. I wondered why there were no campaign ads on radio
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jan 2014

and then I heard him after the election...

madville

(7,408 posts)
41. No way he would have gotten the nomination
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:35 PM
Jan 2014

He's anti-gun and pro-immigration reform. Those two things right there would sink any Republican nomination hopes at this point in time.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. K&R!
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 11:04 PM
Jan 2014

No doubt the Dems that supported him will now say he was a stink bomb planted into the GOP, but we all know he is one step shy of behaving like a mafia don. That is one reason the GOP loves this guy.

Notice how Foxnews Mouthpiece and Senior Nobody Karl Rove is giving him a fluffer on GOPukenews?

They like this turd.

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