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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 03:05 PM Jan 2014

Krugman: The Myth of the Deserving Rich

The Myth of the Deserving Rich

Many influential people have a hard time thinking straight about inequality. Partly, of course, this is because of Upton Sinclair’s dictum: it’s hard for a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it. Part of it is because even acknowledging that inequality is a real problem implicitly opens the door to taking progressive policies seriously...there’s also a factor that, while not entirely independent of the other two, is somewhat distinct; I think of it as the urge to sociologize....in the context of poverty: many pundits and politicians clearly want to believe that poverty is all about dysfunctional families and all that, a view that’s at least 30 years out of date, overtaken by the raw fact of stagnant or declining wages for the bottom third of workers.

There is also a counterpart on the upside of the income distribution: an obvious desire to believe that rising incomes at the top are kind of the obverse of the alleged social problems at the bottom. According to this view, the affluent are affluent because they have done the right things: they’ve gotten college educations, they’ve gotten and stayed married, avoiding illegitimate births, they have a good work ethic, etc.. And implied in all this is that wealth is the reward for virtue, which makes it hard to argue for redistribution.

The trouble with this picture is that it might work for people with incomes of $200,000 or $300,000 a year; it doesn’t work for the one percent, or the 0.1 percent. Yet the bulk of the rise in top income shares is in fact at the very top. Here’s the CBO:



What’s a sociologizer to do? Well, what you see, over and over, is that they find ways to avoid talking about the one percent. They talk about the top quintile, or at most the top 5 percent; this lets them discuss rising incomes at the top as if we were talking about two married lawyers or doctors, not the CEOs and private equity managers who are actually driving the numbers. And this in turn lets them keep the focus on comfortable topics like family structure, and away from uncomfortable topics like runaway finance and the corruption of our politics by great wealth.

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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/18/the-myth-of-the-deserving-rich


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Krugman: The Myth of the Deserving Rich (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2014 OP
Rec for inequality. n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #1
I was wondering if Dr. K was going to respond to David Brooks's column yesterday! CTyankee Jan 2014 #2
Very interesting. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #3
As if Sam Walton's children, for example, earned any of their money. As if! They are the "takers". SharonAnn Jan 2014 #9
Inheritance tax of all but $1 million tabasco Jan 2014 #4
Inheritance tax is not the main problem - tax loopholes are! csziggy Jan 2014 #7
Down with tax loopholes! oldhippie Jan 2014 #10
k/r fishwax Jan 2014 #5
We were having a similar discussion in a different thread frazzled Jan 2014 #6
The uber wealthy really ought to be taxed out of existence. hunter Jan 2014 #8
Check out what Thom Hartmann has to say about this.... elzenmahn Jan 2014 #11
K&R big time. Faygo Kid Jan 2014 #12
"wealth is the reward for virtue" Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #13
Nobody Needs A Fortune of Hundreds Of Millions colsohlibgal Jan 2014 #14
K^R! Cha Jan 2014 #15
k&r n/t RainDog Jan 2014 #16

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
2. I was wondering if Dr. K was going to respond to David Brooks's column yesterday!
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jan 2014

Oh David, David...ya know ya shudna done it!

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
3. Very interesting.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 03:19 PM
Jan 2014

Krugman always is. Thanks for posting. Have to say, don't miss the comments to the article, either. Well worth the read.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
9. As if Sam Walton's children, for example, earned any of their money. As if! They are the "takers".
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 04:36 PM
Jan 2014

Workers are the "Makers".

Those who live off other people's work are the "Takers:.

csziggy

(34,133 posts)
7. Inheritance tax is not the main problem - tax loopholes are!
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jan 2014

Any estate attorney worth the name can structure things so an estate will have little or no inheritance taxes. Those loopholes need to be closed if you want to cut the holdings of the 1%.

Right now there is no inheritance tax for estates below 5 million dollars - but even at that amount estates of tens of millions pay little estate taxes if the attorneys plan carefully.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
6. We were having a similar discussion in a different thread
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jan 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4352578

I haven't seen it, but perhaps Wolf of Wall Street is a more important film than I'm thinking in this regard: it kind of busts the myth of the super rich being "deserving."

hunter

(38,309 posts)
8. The uber wealthy really ought to be taxed out of existence.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 03:50 PM
Jan 2014

They play games with money that do not make this world a better place. They corrupt the political process.

I would have progressive income taxes approaching 100% at some multiple of a minimum income (probably less than 20X), equally progressive inheritance taxes, and a small tax on shares traded within a month of purchase to discourage high frequency trading.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
11. Check out what Thom Hartmann has to say about this....
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jan 2014

...he believes, basically, in a 100% wealth tax on all wealth over one billion dollars. Billionaires, in this society, would effectively by illegal under his plan.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
12. K&R big time.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 05:58 PM
Jan 2014

Income inequality is the issue of our time, along with climate change. Many others are worthy of that designation, but those two will destroy us.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
13. "wealth is the reward for virtue"
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:58 PM
Jan 2014

Uh huh...

Rush and his Dominican Republic / Viagra trip is a fine example.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
14. Nobody Needs A Fortune of Hundreds Of Millions
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:04 PM
Jan 2014

I believe in the ability of someone to get well off, just not obscenely so. Right now while most of the US is scuffling, the top 1/10th of 1% are raking it in big time. Robber Baron Nation 2014. We need a modern Teddy Roosevelt trust buster.

Supply Side economics is a scam to further enrich the rich, screw everyone else. My first inkling that Obama was not going to govern like he said was when he brought in his money team - the Rubin in and out of Goldman crowd, rather than the Reich/Krugman Keynesian crowd.

We'll get it right when enough people start to think things through and decide to vote for their own self interest. Too many now buy the Fox lie machine and Rush verbatim and make sure they won't get ahead with their vote.

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