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Nick Goroff
January 19, 2014
Faith and reason are not reconcilable. Whatever ones personal, emotional or spiritual takeaway from a religious belief or experience, such does not and cannot fall under the purview of reason. Nor does such pass for science, and thus was the crux of noted astrophysicist and science advocate Neil deGrasse Tysons argument, when he sat down with Bill Moyers to discuss the place of faith in the classroom.
During the interview, Tyson is careful to separate those he calls enlightened religious people those who accept science as fact while retaining and rationalizing their faith internally from fundamentalists, who much like the Taliban, would insist on a literal orthodox interpretation of their holy text as the final word on all things. Accepting that the former understood that in matters such as the debate over creationism in the classroom, that science should win the day, Tyson drew the line with the latter and their persistent attempts to drive religious beliefs into science classes.
If you have a religious philosophy that is not based in objective realities that you then want to put in the science classroom, then Im going stand there and say no, Im not going to allow you in the science classroom.
During the discussion, which can be watched in full here, Moyers struggled to search for common ground, finding himself politely rebuffed at every attempt. Noting the honest efforts to bring the two worlds of religion and science together, Tyson shrugs as he notes that they just fail.
http://aattp.org/neil-degrasse-tyson-tells-moyers-no-religion-in-science-classrooms-video/
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(17,199 posts)by Simone Sanner
Rocket scientist and world-renowned unparalleled genius Kirk Cameron just ask him, he will agree challenged Stephen Hawking in an interview with TMZ regarding the answers to life, the universe, and everything.
Professor Hawking is heralded as the genius of Britain, said Cameron, Yet he believes in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything and that life sprang from non-life.
While even a five-year-old has some glimmer of a clue how chemicals come together to create amino acids, Cameron seems to have missed that lesson, however Cameron continued, (Hawking) says he knows there is no Heaven. John Lennon wasnt sure. He said to pretend theres no Heaven. Thats easy if you try. Then he said he hoped that someday we would join him.
read more: http://aattp.org/kirk-cameron-attempts-to-out-think-stephen-hawking-and-fails-miserably/
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(49,987 posts)The perfect storm of stupidity, arrogance and obliviousness.
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(4,192 posts)historical fact. Faith is a requirement for any human being who hasn't yet figured out all the answers to how everything works and why it works the way it does. It allows us to not get bogged down by things we don't understand but we know work for us. Unfortunately it is exploited by charlatans in the form of religion and people are lead to believe they have to have faith in stories and ideas that are nonsensical if taken at face value.
I just wanted to make that point about the use of the term "faith", which is often used interchangeably with the word "religion". Religious teachings treated as historical fact are nonsense and have no place in science classrooms and are antithetical to reason. However, interpretation of the meanings in religious teachings can be a good exercise in the use of reasoning if dogmatic interpretation isn't clouding the discussion. I think a good example of someone who did this well is Joseph Campbell.
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(9,461 posts)be called science. They are two separate notions and believers in Christ for decades didn't have a problem with the two. Most mainstream religions now believe that science and the Bible can co-exist and have published doctrine that accepts both evolution and the concept of God.
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