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I got to think that all kinds of telephone calls and meetings are going on between the subpoenaed people as to what their collective story is going to be. I got to think that Crispy is telling his people that if we all just stick together and tell the same story we'll get out of this.
If this is what's going on behind the scenes - I got to question those people that are listening to Crispy and believing that they could weather this storm. They would have to be really loyal or so guilty - that they would believe that they could come out of this unscathed.
Do you think each of these subpoenaed people's lawyers are telling them to save themselves and don't worry about Crispy or the rest of the group?
I just can't imagine the stress that these people are under right now.
Any other speculation out there about this?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)rocktivity
(44,573 posts)if the Port Authority were not subject to federal oversight, and if Governor Soprano had succeeding in getting his appointees into the state attorney general's office and the state supreme court.
There is also the little matter of the phone call Christie made to New York's governor complaining that someone at the Port Authority was being too nosy -- that confirms that he knew the lane closure was a phony. So why give ANYONE immunity? That's a sold case of collusion and obstruction against Christie right there!
rocktivity
marlakay
(11,446 posts)And a lot of shredding and throwing computers in the bay.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)maybe constructing parallel documents.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)it is driving them all crazy that the (inevitable) public relations crisis specialists that their lawyers assigned to them, is telling them to shut up and act legally. They are probably having ulcers sticking to their scripts and not terrorizing anyone with less power.
These are not highly evolved folks so it's a big stretch. They may be unable to function without threats and bullying.
Chris Christie had to leave town because he only has two modes...1. Raging Asshole 2. Big Whining Baby
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)He'll have to rely on old videos of his assholliness...and that's what most people liked about him. Now he'll be just another politician.
lindysalsagal
(20,643 posts)overlords. They're softies who rode Chrispy's evil coattails to some easy $$. They're not smart enough to really go out and make money the hard way: By being really really good at something. What they're good at is taking orders, not thinking ahead, or for themselves. They talk tough when they feel protected, just like the smartest guys in the enron room. It's all in their imaginations.
When Chrispy had approval ratings in the 70-80's, they felt invincible. But it was a delusion, and the bubble has been burst.
I think they'll ALL finger Chrispy at the earliest convenience just to avoid the wait and the jail time.
None of them would have dared draw Chrispy's fire by doing this without his orders, and there will be evidence. Lots of it. These fools never thought this would happen, and only Chrispy himself operated with minimal security protocols.
They've got the goods.
The real question is, has any money already moved into private pockets as kick-backs? That's where the blood-letting will begin.
CTyankee
(63,900 posts)1. Raging Asshole 2. Big Whining Baby
Yup!
Gothmog
(145,058 posts)At some point they will be running out of major name white collar criminal defense types
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Gothmog
(145,058 posts)Defending white collar crime is a specialized field and the top people are going to have conflicts soon. In fact that there is a conflict fight pending as to the attorney defending Christie in that the same attorney is also defending the Port Authority in rate hike case brought by AAA http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303465004579326661524816096?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303465004579326661524816096.html
Lawyers at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey lodged an objection Friday about Gov. Chris Christie's hiring of a global law firm to represent his administration in the George Washington Bridge scandal.
The agency's lawyers see a potential conflict because the same firm has represented the authority in lingering disputes over 2011 toll increases, people familiar with the authority's concerns said.
Mr. Christie said this week that attorney Randy Mastro and the firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP would represent his administration amid multiple investigations of its involvement in the closing of lanes leading to the bridge in Fort Lee, N.J., allegedly for political reasons. The reduced access caused traffic snarls for five straight days in September.
Gibson Dunn has billed the Port Authority for $4 million in matters related to the 2011 toll increases, officials said, including a lawsuit by a motorists' interest group and a legislative subpoena for records on the toll increases.
Gibson Dunn is a good firm but there is no way that this firm can represent Christie and the Port Authority and this firm may be disqualified from both representations
Walk away
(9,494 posts)global1
(25,237 posts)Does the taxpayer get socked with the bill? If so - doesn't seem fair that the taxpayer should be on the hook for potentially criminal activities performed by elected officials.
All those that have been subpoenaed (20 people) - do they hire and pay for their own attorneys?
Gothmog
(145,058 posts)It is my understanding that the attorney hired to defend the Christie administration is being paid for by the taxpayers and the same firm is also being paid by the Port Authority (approximately $4 million has already been paid to this firm in that case). When an individual hires an attorney, in most cases that individual is paying for the attorney but if there is an indemnification agreement in place, the govt may be paying. Remember that the State of New Jersey has an attorney general who is suppose to be representing the state and Christie.
Most of the individuals will be paying their own bills unless they rely on the attorney for the Christie administration to represent them. I think that would be a dumb idea and the law firm would be crazy to try to do this due to the conflicts.
Gibson Dunn is a good firm but they are risking a great deal if a conflict is determined to exist.
global1
(25,237 posts)that it is their responsibility to pay for any legal fees incurred. If exonerated and not guilty - then they could use taxpayer money.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)are flying out of the Prosecutor's office, nothing will be sacred, so to speak. People could be wearing wires and have recording devices on their phones...I know I would. Email, Twitter, phone calls (see NSA) etc. are easily brought up. And this political generation...the late Boomers...still don't quite understand how transparent and easily produced their secrets are.
Scandal at light speed.
lindysalsagal
(20,643 posts)Anyone got one?
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,584 posts)malaise
(268,850 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)spanone
(135,814 posts)tense maybe?