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Richard Sherman, Stanford grad who got a bit hot under the collar after a game, is a thug... (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 OP
Damn Skippy nt MrScorpio Jan 2014 #1
That poor idiot yelling at the camera about being disrespected was no thug. MADem Jan 2014 #2
Drunken Irishman wasn't actually calling Sherman a thug. Ken Burch Jan 2014 #4
I know.... MADem Jan 2014 #24
My concern is with the reporter who ran up to stick a microphone in his face ... MindMover Jan 2014 #26
I think he wanted the spotlight. It just didn't come out the way he saw it in his head. MADem Jan 2014 #29
On this one we will agree to disagree ... MindMover Jan 2014 #31
He's their best player and he made the game-saving play. Who else would they talk to? nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #33
Yes get the red out Jan 2014 #34
He made the touchdown saving, game... Whiskeytide Jan 2014 #45
Ding ding we have a winner malaise Jan 2014 #3
No he is not. The beef between him and the other guy started at a charity mfcorey1 Jan 2014 #5
Even I can detect the sarcasm in the OP Shivering Jemmy Jan 2014 #6
Oooops! Noted and thanks! mfcorey1 Jan 2014 #7
What does 'Stanford grad' have to do with it? n/t Dawgs Jan 2014 #8
What Standford grad has to do with it is that even football players for the school ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #9
Meaningless on whether he should be called a thug. Dawgs Jan 2014 #13
The post was sarcasm... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #14
Which post? n/t Dawgs Jan 2014 #17
If you cannot tell the OP was sarcasm, I worry... nt ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #18
The OP being sarcasm doesn't change my point or yours. Dawgs Jan 2014 #20
I think you misinterpreted the thread and now ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #38
Nope. Not backing out of anything. Dawgs Jan 2014 #43
Name one thing he's ever done that would earn him the designation "thug" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #25
As far as I can tell he hasn't done anything to earn the designation of "thug". Dawgs Jan 2014 #42
It has a lot to do with it Hutzpa Jan 2014 #27
What should I see? That being a Stanford grad is so much better being a grad of another school? n/ Dawgs Jan 2014 #44
It's an ACT DiverDave Jan 2014 #10
The post is sarcasm... ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #11
I have found that usually those who need to proclaim themselves the best are not joeglow3 Jan 2014 #12
Oddly enough, Kanye is one of the best. nolabear Jan 2014 #21
He may be for his niche. But his proclamations extend beyond just his area. joeglow3 Jan 2014 #23
Well yeah, he does stand alone in that estimation. nolabear Jan 2014 #47
Mohammed Ali always claimed to be the best Hutzpa Jan 2014 #30
He was the reason I said usually joeglow3 Jan 2014 #32
Kayne has never claimed to be the best Hutzpa Jan 2014 #35
What you define as self-confidence I define a no confidence joeglow3 Jan 2014 #36
Well different personalities handles Hutzpa Jan 2014 #37
Wait til the Super Bowl panader0 Jan 2014 #15
He's tied with Sam Shields as the best ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #39
I'd have thought the tags would cover it, but I guess maybe a sarcasm smiley is necesary. redqueen Jan 2014 #16
That surprises me...I thought my sarcasm was pretty clear. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #41
some purposely want to ignore the point being made JI7 Jan 2014 #52
That kid has accomplished so much in his life, SO MUCH, and he gets torn down for this crap. nolabear Jan 2014 #19
Yes Liberal_Dog Jan 2014 #22
Richard Sherman is an entertainer LittleBlue Jan 2014 #28
Sherman has taken the passive-aggressive bullshit off of Twitter and put it R B Garr Jan 2014 #40
Richard Sherman is a Great Player who wanted to be a Household Name. dilby Jan 2014 #46
He's a fucking asshole eissa Jan 2014 #48
+1000. No one should be excused for poor sportsmanship like that. (nt) Paladin Jan 2014 #50
So you think wilt the stilt Jan 2014 #53
A thug? Silly, such folks wouldn't know until they had already jacked them up. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #49
its football MFM008 Jan 2014 #51
One does not exclude the other... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #54

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. That poor idiot yelling at the camera about being disrespected was no thug.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 05:15 AM
Jan 2014

He came off like a wheezy whiner who got the best of someone who had managed to get his goat, and wanted to (earnestly) make the point. I was wondering if he'd recently eaten a few of those steroidal testosterone gummie bears that are so popular amongst the athletes these days.

The reporter interviewing him, no stranger to the spotlight herself, immediately realized she was part of a viral moment! She kept her cool!

Now, Chris Christie....he's just a loser. As the days go by, he gets smaller and smaller. That's the brass ring of the Presidency passing him by, and he's receding in the rear view mirror.

I'm not sorry. He was probably the most formidable candidate on the GOP side, and the fact that he's been dealt this blow is good for us. He may still recover, but this is a massive thorn in his side. Anytime anyone wants to snark at him all they have to do is say

Yeah, and I have a bridge for sale....

or

He'll cross that bridge when he damn well feels like it...

or

He's mad as hell, and packing cones....

He's got troubled waters ahead, and he'd probably rather take the ferry than the bridge!!!!

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
4. Drunken Irishman wasn't actually calling Sherman a thug.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 06:53 AM
Jan 2014

He was making a point about double standards, race, class, and politics.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. I know....
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jan 2014

I "got" the hashtags.

I just think it's funny that a guy who was about as "un-macho" as a victorious football player could get (despite trying like HELL to be a tough guy) could possibly be regarded as a "thug." All you gotta do is look at the guy and his insecurities shine through like a beacon. The woman interviewing him saw that straight off, despite the raised voice and the dramatic posturing.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
26. My concern is with the reporter who ran up to stick a microphone in his face ...
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:59 PM
Jan 2014

How many other players could she have stuck that microphone into there face without all that noise ?????

Intent, intent, intent ... I say sensationalism ... lets pour it on hot and thick ... all gooey and gross ...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. I think he wanted the spotlight. It just didn't come out the way he saw it in his head.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:03 PM
Jan 2014

He thought he was coming across like Ali, or one of those WWF wrestlers, or something.

Instead, he was coming across like Wally Cox copping an attitude!

He was obviously mad at the guy he was railing about; he just couldn't switch gears to celebrate instead of focusing on the guy who had been teasing him.

That reporter is no stranger to this kind of stuff; I think she did fine--the whole interaction was mostly funny.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
31. On this one we will agree to disagree ...
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:08 PM
Jan 2014

whether this was a setup by producers or she really was the deciding factor on who she interviewed ...

He was the wrong player to interview after a sporting event ... IMO

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
45. He made the touchdown saving, game...
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 02:50 PM
Jan 2014

... winning, conference championship sealing, ticket to the Super Bowl punching play. I think ANY reporter would have had him first on their list to interview. I don't blame Andrews at all.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
5. No he is not. The beef between him and the other guy started at a charity
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:06 AM
Jan 2014

event and just escalated to the field. Find another thug. Things worst than what he said have been uttered by other players.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
9. What Standford grad has to do with it is that even football players for the school
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:12 AM
Jan 2014

have to be good students to be offered a scholarship.

That Stanford grad graduated second in his class in high school.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
13. Meaningless on whether he should be called a thug.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:03 AM
Jan 2014

And, going to Stanford doesn't mean you still can't be a bad apple.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
20. The OP being sarcasm doesn't change my point or yours.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:52 AM
Jan 2014

And, you trying to weasel out of it by saying that the OP is sarcasm is what should be worry you.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
43. Nope. Not backing out of anything.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 02:44 PM
Jan 2014

It's not my fault if you and others can't explain yourself better.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
25. Name one thing he's ever done that would earn him the designation "thug"
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:54 PM
Jan 2014

Not "braggart" or "egomaniac" or "trash-talker".

In what way is he a "thug"--and no having dreads and black skin do not count as answers.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
42. As far as I can tell he hasn't done anything to earn the designation of "thug".
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 02:43 PM
Jan 2014

I think you missed my point.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
27. It has a lot to do with it
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jan 2014

and of you don't see that then I shall conclude that you're being obtuse.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
44. What should I see? That being a Stanford grad is so much better being a grad of another school? n/
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 02:48 PM
Jan 2014

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
10. It's an ACT
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:15 AM
Jan 2014

to get players rattled.
You cant see that?
He aint stupid, and yes he is best corner in the league.
Stanford doesn't take stupid people.
lighten up, IT'S A GAME...sheesh

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
12. I have found that usually those who need to proclaim themselves the best are not
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:50 AM
Jan 2014

I'm looking at you, Kayne.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
21. Oddly enough, Kanye is one of the best.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jan 2014

His attitude makes me laugh, but in his field, if you like the genre, he's done some of the best work out there. Sadly, he pushes things so far that it backs people way off of the music, and he might have lost his perspective. I like the guy, though. Go figure.

Oh, and I defined "best" by awards won, not my opinion.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
23. He may be for his niche. But his proclamations extend beyond just his area.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jan 2014

Most don't consider him one of the best artists that transcend all genres.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
30. Mohammed Ali always claimed to be the best
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jan 2014

before a fight and he proves it by defeating his opponents.

So what's your point?

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
32. He was the reason I said usually
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jan 2014

The fact that you and I were thinking of the exact same person shows you how rare it really is true. Thanks for proving my point.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
35. Kayne has never claimed to be the best
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:21 PM
Jan 2014

he has said that he believes he is a genius or something to that effect, but me personally have no problem with people proclaiming to be the best, my attitude is if you're the best as you claim to be, then you'll have to prove it against me.

Nothing wrong with people having self confidence, it only becomes a problem when certain culture tries to set a standard for others.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
36. What you define as self-confidence I define a no confidence
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:23 PM
Jan 2014

The people I know with self-confidence are not out trying to justify/tell everyone how great they are. They carry themselves like Barry Sanders did.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
37. Well different personalities handles
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jan 2014

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event differently. Our characters are different, but I can't say because joeglow3 (for instance) was modest in his celebration then Hutzpa should be too, we are two different people with different background and cultures, I should be able to celebrate how I see fit, you on the other hand had a choice which is to either change the channel or hit your head against the wall or whatever is culpable for you to do, but don't deny me my exhultation at my finest hour just because you don't like how I speak or look.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
15. Wait til the Super Bowl
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jan 2014

when Manning will shred Christie, I mean Sherman.
Sherman may be right about being the best cornerback in the league.
signed, a hopeful Bronco fan.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
16. I'd have thought the tags would cover it, but I guess maybe a sarcasm smiley is necesary.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:44 AM
Jan 2014

Sigh.

Anyway, K&R

JI7

(89,247 posts)
52. some purposely want to ignore the point being made
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jan 2014

they spend so much time trying to argue everything is fair and equal and that certain people don't get it worse.

and when you bring up examples like this they will act like they aren't understanding what is being said.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
19. That kid has accomplished so much in his life, SO MUCH, and he gets torn down for this crap.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jan 2014

HuffPo (I know) has an article about his outstanding life, about how he's never done any of the things that many players have done that are truly egregious. He's just in a trash talking battle.

Social media, which, yes, I spend time with, has the potential to do such harm to people. it creates hysteria out of everything. I hope he's strong and just knows who he is - apparently a kid who is exactly what he's been designed to be.

Liberal_Dog

(11,075 posts)
22. Yes
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:00 PM
Jan 2014

I have been wondering if Richard Sherman was white and acted in the exact same way, then would he called a thug?

Also noting the way that Gov. Christie sometimes talks to people, the media never portrays him as the "angry white man" while many in media attempt to cast the Obamas as the "angry black man" and the "angry black woman".

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
28. Richard Sherman is an entertainer
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jan 2014

The whole Sherman saga misses one crucial point- it's an act. I'm a Seahawks fan. Sherman loves winding people up, getting in his opponent's heads, etc. That's why he's the best CB in football.

All the anger is sweet nectar to him.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
40. Sherman has taken the passive-aggressive bullshit off of Twitter and put it
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jan 2014

right back out on Front Street where it belongs. He's obviously very intelligent.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
48. He's a fucking asshole
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 06:21 PM
Jan 2014

I don't care where he came from, I don't care where he went to school, I don't care if he's a fucking gentleman scholar who is just "misunderstood," and I don't care about his fucking "strategy" of getting in people's heads on the field. There's this thing called "sportsmanship" that most players -- even the most bombastic, trash-talkers -- adhere to, and Sherman lacks that completely. Every other player gets a mic shoved in their face after the game, and they manage to be all sorts of things: funny, obnoxious, calm, loud, articulate, crazy. Pretty much everything but a poor sport, which is what Sherman is. Oh, and an asshole, too. Can't forget that.

GO BRONCOS!

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
53. So you think
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 09:01 PM
Jan 2014

that Crabtree's bahavior at a charity event is ok? Crabtree insulted him at a charity event when he went to shake his hand. That is excusable behavior. Crabtree got what he deserved.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
49. A thug? Silly, such folks wouldn't know until they had already jacked them up.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 06:35 PM
Jan 2014

Not at you DI, I'm talking to people who seriously forward this crap.

A corner talked trash, oh lawdy! Fucking stupid.

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