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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:02 AM Jan 2014

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: 38 inmates who defaced flag will survive on bread, water



Sheriff Joe Arpaio: 38 inmates who defaced flag will survive on bread, water

(CNN) -- A diet of Bread and water is the punishment for dozens of Arizona inmates who allegedly defaced American flags placed in their jail cells.

The 38 male inmates are part of the Maricopa County jail system, which is under the control of controversial sheriff Joe Arpaio.

For their alleged unpatriotic acts, the sheriff said Thursday, they'll survive on bread and water for seven days.

"These inmates have destroyed the American flag that was placed in their cells," Arpaio said. "Tearing them, writing on them, stepping on them, throwing them in the toilet, trash or wherever they feel. It's a disgrace ... this is government property that they are destroying, and we will take action against those who act this way."

The flags are part of a push for patriotism in county jail cells that includes listening to the "Star-Spangled Banner" every morning and "God Bless America" every night over the intercom system.

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Full article here: http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/24/justice/arizona-inmates-bread-water/index.html


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Sheriff Joe Arpaio: 38 inmates who defaced flag will survive on bread, water (Original Post) Tx4obama Jan 2014 OP
My sheriff never disappoints. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #1
Maybe you can help me out with this: Brigid Jan 2014 #19
He's extremely popular. People around here are assholes. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #21
They don't fear they might run afoul of him themselves? Brigid Jan 2014 #22
He doesn't arrest middle class white people. Who are his electorate. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #23
Cruel and unusual punishment. Not so much the bread and water, but... NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #2
It's the type of thing your'd find in a dystopia novel davidn3600 Jan 2014 #3
No shit. LAGC Jan 2014 #4
Or Waco merrily Jan 2014 #9
Like 1984. nt Brainstormy Jan 2014 #11
Good call shenmue Jan 2014 #26
Bread and water has pretty much been deemed cruel & unusual punishment by the courts. It's not okaawhatever Jan 2014 #25
This is like some kind of distorted futuristic movie where glowing Jan 2014 #5
There was a movie that was made with Robert Redford and James Gandolfini a few years ago. Initech Jan 2014 #18
Good movie. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #33
Maybe the sheriff is a racist and enjoys doing these types of acts against minorities? icymist Jan 2014 #32
He's an evil shitstain. nt DLevine Jan 2014 #6
Has anyone EVER heard of... ReRe Jan 2014 #7
Those who violate the Constitution, like Sheriff Asspaio are the ones merrily Jan 2014 #8
Everything the man does is sorefeet Jan 2014 #10
K&R! countryjake Jan 2014 #12
Holy crap! gollygee Jan 2014 #13
Hahaha! Gotta love the Onion! Dash87 Jan 2014 #14
And he is considering a run for governor. luckykate54 Jan 2014 #15
Well, at least it's not FRENCH fries or SPANISH rice. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #16
I'm heavily convinced that Sheriff Joe would make a great James Bond villain. Initech Jan 2014 #17
I get the feeling that in a different time and place.............. marmar Jan 2014 #20
The flags were probably intended as bait. lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #24
You have a good point. n/t whopis01 Jan 2014 #29
It does rather sound like that, doesn't it. surrealAmerican Jan 2014 #30
Can you spell cruel and unusual? Lint Head Jan 2014 #27
Is this legal? n/t cynatnite Jan 2014 #28
"legal" has never stopped him before. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #34
I do not think that is legal lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #31
Tough cop as long as his victim is caged, handcuffed, shot or otherwise defenseless. gsosbee Jan 2014 #35
Petition against Joe robanglin Jan 2014 #36

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
22. They don't fear they might run afoul of him themselves?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jan 2014

He seems to be an equal-opportunity abuser if he can find a way to get you into his jail.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
23. He doesn't arrest middle class white people. Who are his electorate.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:09 PM
Jan 2014

He's been around for so long that people just vote for him automatically.

We don't care about his authoritarianism. We don't care that he costs the tax payers millions of dollars in settlements. We don't care that he targets people of color and ignores rape case investigations. He's our wild west sheriff keeping the streets clean.

His image is all that matters and he has the largest PR firm of any sheriff's department.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. Cruel and unusual punishment. Not so much the bread and water, but...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:04 AM
Jan 2014

.

...the listening to the "Star-Spangled Banner" every morning and "God Bless America" every night over the intercom system.

Beyond creepy.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
25. Bread and water has pretty much been deemed cruel & unusual punishment by the courts. It's not
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:42 PM
Jan 2014

about not feeding the individuals, from what I understand it causes horrible constipation and that's the real "punishment". Here is an article from 1992 where the court ruled against the Navy's use except when the sailor is at sea. Couldn't find any updates since the Arpaio story is everywhere.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19921001&slug=1516008

excerpt:

WASHINGTON - The nation's highest military court has narrowed the Navy's ability to confine problem sailors to a bread-and-water diet but did not address whether the centuries-old punishment violates the Constitution's prohibition of "cruel and unusual" punishment.

The five civilian judges found that the two sentences violated the military justice code's ban on "cruel or unusual" punishments. But the judges did not rule whether bread-and-water punishment in general violated the Constitution.

Attorneys for the Navy conceded that the punishments imposed on Lorance and Yatchak had not complied with military law. But they contended that the issue raised did not require a ruling on whether bread-and-water punishments violated the Eighth Amendment

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
5. This is like some kind of distorted futuristic movie where
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:47 AM
Jan 2014

there's an authoritarian type of Govt with a police-state whose sole goal is to keep the poor/ slave-like members squashed in fear of retribution and their lives. Using re-education, torture, and manipulation to keep the people in line, and to keep them from supporting and joining against any resistant types of movements.

1984 has literally become their "play book" on how to control people. A book and storyline meant to foster thought and awareness of how fragile the precipice of freedom is. It wasn't the author's intention in providing a means for 1% of earthr's 7.5 billion population to control.

And what is so profoundly astonishing and disgusting is that this news story posted at various outlets will have many comments of support of the Sheriff. And some will post that they would support harsher retribution for the American flag being desicrated by these low level, criminal thugs. Many would think they should have to listen to Patriotic songs being played 24hrs a day (which would be torture if it were perpetual, played at all times of the day, and in extreme volumes.

I can't understand why this Sheriff isn't in jail himself and why the Fed's continue to allow inhumane treatment of prisoner populations. Between the outside tent arrangements, pink boxer's, patriotic infusion, chain gangs, and sub-standard nutritional foods (bread and water for a week is not healthy or sane), this man shouldn't be running the jail, he should be in it. And you know that if the leader of the jail is fostering this type of abuses in public manner, then he's setting and "anything goes" type of mentality down the chain of command for the staff and even the jail "snitches". Disgusting!

Initech

(100,059 posts)
18. There was a movie that was made with Robert Redford and James Gandolfini a few years ago.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Fri Jan 24, 2014, 04:52 PM - Edit history (1)

It's called "The Last Castle" ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272020/?ref_=nv_sr_1 ) - Robert Redford played a military prisoner who was wrongfully incarcerated, and James Gandolfini played the prison warden who acted very much like Sheriff Joe. And Robert Redford aims to take back the prison from the corrupted warden. I definitely recommend watching this movie since Gandolfini's is very much like Sheriff Joe and what you are describing.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
32. Maybe the sheriff is a racist and enjoys doing these types of acts against minorities?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 08:25 PM
Jan 2014

And the people that keep re-electing him are racists as well? Did sheriff Joe even read 1984? Can he even read?

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
7. Has anyone EVER heard of...
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:59 AM
Jan 2014

... American Flags in jail cells? I have never been arrested, but if I was, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to look at an American Flag. Who feels patriotic in a jail cell? The flag and the music would drive me crazy enough to destroy something too!

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
10. Everything the man does is
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:52 AM
Jan 2014

for spite, vengeance and hate . He started that just to make trouble. The prisoners need to destroy every flag in the prison. This is not the land of the free. Pay attention people, you have been lied to from birth.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
14. Hahaha! Gotta love the Onion!
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 01:36 PM
Jan 2014

I mean, American flags in jail cells? Saying the pledge of allegiance every morning? This is The Onion at its best!

Imagine if a Sheriff was really this brutal and nuts? The US would never stand for that. If there's one thing that there's an abundance of here, it's compassion!

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
16. Well, at least it's not FRENCH fries or SPANISH rice.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jan 2014
"Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people's brains and then as ceremonial shrouds to bury the dead." Arundhati Roy

marmar

(77,067 posts)
20. I get the feeling that in a different time and place..............
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jan 2014

........ Sheriff Joe would have been an eager gas chamber attendant.





lpbk2713

(42,751 posts)
24. The flags were probably intended as bait.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jan 2014



The prisoners did just what they were expected to do.
Now Arpaio can get some more headlines.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
30. It does rather sound like that, doesn't it.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jan 2014

Putting flags in the cells is otherwise such a stupid idea. What a crazy use of taxpayer money.

gsosbee

(15 posts)
35. Tough cop as long as his victim is caged, handcuffed, shot or otherwise defenseless.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jan 2014

The overthrown USA government with corrupt fbi/police/cia/cjis try to force inmates to embrace the very symbol of murderous tyranny that threw the men in prison. The flag of this nation is known universally as equivalent to the Swastika. Ask the Jews if they embraced that symbol at Auschwitz.



OUTLAWS ARE BETTER MEN:



http://www.newciv.org/nl/newslog.php/_v194/__show_article/_a000194-000534.htm





Corruption in fbi:



http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/updatejan5.html





Corruption of all law enforcement by fbi:



http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/letterfrompostal.html



Fearful trembling species:



http://barcelona.indymedia.org/newswire/display/460988/index.php



Age of Madness:


http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/story/age-madness-critical-review-fbicia-operations/9375

robanglin

(1 post)
36. Petition against Joe
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 08:10 PM
Jan 2014

Please sign the change.org petition requesting the U.S. Attorney General & the Maricopa County government to investigate the bread-and-water starvation diet. This is not the first time he's done this sort of thing - and the federal courts have ordered him not to do it again. But Sheriff Arpaio believes he is above the law. Here is the petition: [link:http://www.change.org/petitions/eric-holder-make-sheriff-joe-arpaio-comply-with-federal-court-orders-not-to-starve-inmates|

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