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kpete

(71,953 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 11:49 AM Jan 2014

Jamie Dimon: It Would "Be Criminal To Subject Our Company" To A Trial

Jamie Dimon: It Would "Be Criminal To Subject Our Company" To A Trial
By Nicole Belle January 25, 2014 11:40 pm
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It's not enough to be rewarded for financial malfeasance, http://abcnews.go.com/Business/jpmorgan-chase-ceo-jamie-dimon-pay-raise/story?id=21651249 Jamie Dimon wants everyone to know to hold him accountable for it would be...in a word, criminal.



....................Jamie Dimon told an audience of his fellow elites in Davos, Switzerland that it would have been "criminal" to subject JPMorgan Chase to a trial.

Dimon said JPMorgan had "two really bad options" in choosing to settle or fight the cases. Going to court could have taken three or four years and the outcome could have been worse, he said.

"It would really hurt this company and that would have been criminal for me to subject our company to those kinds of issues," Dimon said.




Personally, I think that paycheck is criminal. Clearly, we don't see eye to eye on the notion of personal and fiscal responsibility. I'm proud to say that Elizabeth Warren sees it the same way I do:

Wow. In this interview, JPMorgan head Jamie Dimon explains why it is so important for big banks to settle with regulators after they break the law and avoid going all the way to court. It would be really costly, he says. Well, duh. I hope the banking regulators were listening. If they are never willing to go to trial either - which sure seems to be the case - they have a lot less leverage in their settlement negotiations.
https://www.facebook.com/ElizabethWarren/posts/10103049130899056?stream_ref=10


the rest:
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/01/jamie-dimon-it-would-be-criminal-subject
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Jamie Dimon: It Would "Be Criminal To Subject Our Company" To A Trial (Original Post) kpete Jan 2014 OP
Did he mentionn this while lunching with Penny Pritzker? Scuba Jan 2014 #1
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch.....nt Enthusiast Jan 2014 #2
Someone has good friends in high places. mucifer Jan 2014 #3
Fucking megalamaniac! L0oniX Jan 2014 #4
If anyone would know criminality rustydog Jan 2014 #5
Laws are for the little people jsr Jan 2014 #6
Everytime I see that man's name, I think of Scarborough insisting that Dimon would Skidmore Jan 2014 #7
The lumpenproletariat need to be reminded of their proper place from time to time Fumesucker Jan 2014 #8
Whimpering fucking dingo. lonestarnot Jan 2014 #9
This is why we need to stop letting people have corporations Taitertots Jan 2014 #10
This is misleading quakerboy Jan 2014 #11
And if anybody knows from "Criminal", it's Dimon. riqster Jan 2014 #12
It would be "criminal" not to. yourout Jan 2014 #13
Not "would be": Is ! dickthegrouch Jan 2014 #15
Good trial lawyers know that you have to prove that you can, and will, try cases and beat them! Dustlawyer Jan 2014 #14
Insist on a Corporate Death Penalty... JCMach1 Jan 2014 #16
It's like Al Capone claiming Eliott Ness should be jailed. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #17
Elizabeth Warren is right. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #18
Banksters control the world. Rex Jan 2014 #19
^^This^^ Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #22
I hate to be blunt about it, but they destroy the social fabric Rex Jan 2014 #25
bail out the people, put the banksters in jail noiretextatique Jan 2014 #26
+1 El_Johns Jan 2014 #24
Sounds lsewpershad Jan 2014 #20
No, Elizabeth Warren *doesn't* see it the same way Schema Thing Jan 2014 #21
Jamie SamKnause Jan 2014 #23
Orwellian Bullshit. Next? Cha Jan 2014 #27
It would be criminal to NOT Jack Rabbit Jan 2014 #28
He means it would be criminal of HIM to allow it to come to trial. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #29
Isn't this the guy who said he's "doing the Lawd's work"??? blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #30
To be fair, I don't think that's the gist of what he's saying . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #31

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
7. Everytime I see that man's name, I think of Scarborough insisting that Dimon would
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:25 PM
Jan 2014

make a great President.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
10. This is why we need to stop letting people have corporations
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:56 PM
Jan 2014

Corporate officers are legally obligated to take as much as possible with no consideration for how much it hurts the nation.

quakerboy

(13,914 posts)
11. This is misleading
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:00 PM
Jan 2014

The quote is bad enough, theres no need to subtract words to change the meaning. The "for me" portion of it is very important.

I dont for a moment think he is taking personal responsibility, but that one quote at least, does not say he thinks its criminal of the government to prosecute him. It says that he decided it would be more expensive for JPM to go to trial when he could settle the case out of court. It is informative that more expensive to the company = Criminal. And it explains why so many companies are willing to bend or break rules regarding safety and common sense in order to save a few cents.

Warrens page reflects that understanding as well, so I'm pretty sure im not misunderstanding this one.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
14. Good trial lawyers know that you have to prove that you can, and will, try cases and beat them!
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jan 2014

Bloody their noses a few times and they will stop their bad behavior. If there is a very real possibility for going to prison for the same conduct that they only pay fines for now, the bad conduct would become very rare. The problem is that the Regulators can kiss that kushy, private sector job goodbye if they do go after them!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. Elizabeth Warren is right.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jan 2014

Jamie Dimon thinks that he and his company are God. He thinks that they decide the fate of the world. We don't need Jamie Dimon or JPMorgan Chase. What we need is ethical businesses and businessmen.

But still Jamie Dimon took the responsibility for settling the case against JPMorgan. He didn't say "it" would be criminal for the government to take the company to trial. He said "it" would be criminal for him, for Jamie Dimon, to allow the company to go to trial. He was explaining why he settled.

I'm not a fan of Jamie Dimon, but let's be fair and honest in reading his statement.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Banksters control the world.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jan 2014

They live way, way above any law that affects us working stiffs. They are allowed to get away with ruining countless lives and displacing unknown amounts of families on the streets.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. I hate to be blunt about it, but they destroy the social fabric
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 03:07 PM
Jan 2014

of societies whereas maybe at one time they helped build society. I am not talking about your local bank, I am talking about these huge out of control financial institutions that make and break thousands of FAMILIES a day.

If their crimes are not considered huge moral-ethical issues by governments, then the people of those nations should expect more personal tragedy at the hands of the 1%.

No regulations or oversight on a uber wealthy bank robber means plenty of empty banks and mad customers.

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
21. No, Elizabeth Warren *doesn't* see it the same way
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jan 2014


...as the writer quoted in the OP.


This writer mis-characterized what Dimon actually said "It would really hurt this company and that would have been criminal for me to subject our company to those kinds of issues,". Big difference.

Just because you don't like, or even hate someone, doesn't mean it's ok to lie about what they say.


Elizabeth Warren managed to appropriately mock Jamie Dimon w/o lying about what he said: "It would be really costly, he says. Well, duh. ".

SamKnause

(13,082 posts)
23. Jamie
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:53 PM
Jan 2014

There should be a class action lawsuit filed against these thieves.

Our government should be held accountable for bailing these thieves out and choosing not to prosecute.

When those who make the laws ignore the laws, there is no law.

From this point on they know they can get away with anything and the government will bail them out.

Their power has not been reined in.

They are bigger than they were before the crash.

Our government is acting against the best interest of we the people.

The citizens is this country should be enraged at the injustices being perpetrated on the population.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
28. It would be criminal to NOT
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jan 2014

Throw Legs Dimon in the slammer and then throw the key in the Mariana Trench.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
29. He means it would be criminal of HIM to allow it to come to trial.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 02:26 PM
Jan 2014

Which, having fiduciary responsibility as a corporate officer, that might technically be true, but it would be hard to prove he DIDN'T pump his cronies in the regulatory apparatus for a pass, and a slap on the wrist settlement.

And that, is precisely what is wrong with the financial system.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
31. To be fair, I don't think that's the gist of what he's saying . . .
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 05:37 PM
Jan 2014

I'm certainly not a fan of Dimon, but I don't think he is saying that it would be "criminal" to hold him accountable. He's talking about the options he faced as a company president and CEO, which were to either agree to settle or to go to trial. He's saying that it would have been "criminal" for him, as President and CEO of JPMorgan Chase, to choose to go to trial rather than to settle. Whether one agrees with that assessment or not, his first legal responsibility is to protect shareholder interests. I think he is saying that choosing to go to trial, with all of the risks, media coverage, etc. that would entail, would be 'criminal' insofar as it would potentially be more harmful to the well-being of his organization, and also to the interests of the shareholders of that organization.

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