Racism and hate slowly flooding France

[mylye2222]

Hey, just wanted to share with you DUers. Yesturday, hundreds of conservatives warked tru Paris to claim Hollande resignation. Im so sad. What they did? Nazi signs and salutes, ans slogan anti Jews, anti LGBT....and so on.

Do you Americans think Europe will be turned into various nationalist regimes, or even a war, given the actual climate of hate ( IMHO created by the crisis?)

Id like to have some support, and some overseas opinions.

Thanks.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/01/27/hate-filled-protest-in-france-attracts-thousands-crowd-chants-jew-france-is-not-for-you-video/

[Electric Monk]

1. Fashism?

[uppityperson]

3. With all that was in the OP, you comment on a misspelled word by an ESL person?

[mylye2222]

7. re

Whats means ESL, please????

[Electric Monk]

8. English as a Second Language

[uppityperson]

9. English Second Language. It'd be like a lot of us to write French phonetically

I understood what you meant.

[mylye2222]

14. Tks to defend me, I truly appreciate.

[Aerows]

18. I tried to write on a German friend's blog

They ended up having the conversation in English because no one could understand what in the hell I was talking about with regards to a programming issue. I basically said something along the lines of "The overcooked sky smelled like sausages and no one can hear the taste."

[Glassunion]

29. How the hell did you get the title of my next album?

Damn it. Now I have to go to my second choice. "The burned clouds remind me of salami, that no one can listen to."

[Aerows]

33. LMAO!

The funny thing was, I was describing that when using Windows, a certain function generated an error. LOL!

[1000words]

38. Segfault? ... Or was the oven turned on too high?

Mmmmmmmm ... sausage.

[Electric Monk]

10. When I see spelling that bad, I usually discount anything else they have to say. nt

[uppityperson]

11. Which tells us a lot about you.

Why try to understand what someone has to say, especially if they are one of them ferriners who can't be bothered to spell their non-native language properly!!!!! They DESERVE to get crap for it!!!!111111

from me but looks like what you mean.

[theHandpuppet]

19. Wow.

Just wow.

[Blue_Tires]

23. Perhaps you'd like to converse with the OP in French?

and then he/she could point out your errors?

[Electric Monk]

26. Peut-etre. Je parle un petit peu de français, aussi.

[mylye2222]

27. Ok, and will you

appreciate If I mock you when you spell a word wrongly?

[Autumn Colors]

32. You spelled a word wrong!!!!

It's "peut-être" .... not "peut-etre".

OP is now free to disregard all future responses from you.

[Electric Monk]

36. Well aren't you just a treat. Feel free to disregard all future responses from me that are in French

My original post (reply #1) was meant to be a humorous way of pointing out their spelling mistake.

BTW, do you know what the French word for fascism is? It isn't fashism, it's fascisme.

[mylye2222]

2. Ooooooooops!

LOL! corrected!

[joeybee12]

4. Welcome and glad you fixed that!

[mylye2222]

5. sorry

English is not my native language, so forgive my mistake! Period, lets debate the worrying topic!

[uppityperson]

6. I hadn't read of the protest, will need to do so. Unfortunately there are extremists even there.

The breaking down into opposing camps chanting and proteating basic rights is awful. Having the severe job issues in France impacts a lot as too many young people can find little work causing big difficulties and a lot of fear.

[mylye2222]

12. Of course, you're right,

But now, be known that for the begining, 2 years ago, a movement begun, here, part of the Occupy global one. I took part personally in. We've been persecuted for. Then, the move lowered, and the came the LGBT Wedding act. And THOSE ATI BASIC right protests drews more people. And, truly, goveremet let them do..... Do they really wat to provoque a social blast? I don't know, but its strange how in France, Occupyers are beaten and arrested just for having sitten on a square without asking permission, to debate PEACEFULLY .....WHILE at the same times autorities tolerates: nazi salutes, slogans like " JEWS out of France" and also " lgbt must be deported


Really, today, I'm ashamed to be a fellow to those poeple.

[uppityperson]

17. So many groups and categories, seems there can easily be "them" who are not "us" and easy to hate.

Decent people, ultra conservative scary people, anti-immigration people, anti-equal rights people, neo-nazis, anti-Rom people, Algerians and other immigrants from former Fench colonies, young people who can't find work, etc etc etc. More people, less to have for all.

Mine, me first, hard to get by, let's break into groups and hate Others.

I don't know, keep hoping the good decent people will outweigh the nasty scary ones but it can be scary.

[Beringia]

13. Did you read the comments on the page

One of the posters says the protestors were Muslims.

[mylye2222]

15. Yes,

Many of them are, manipulated by Integrist Muslim lobbies here, but there are also numerous who came from ultra conservatives, and ultra Catholics too. Not to mention all the skinheads organisation such as "Identitary Block."

[sakabatou]

16. I don't think it'll turn fascist anytime soon

There will always be groups like that.

[tavernier]

20. Thanks for your post, mylye

I will be in Paris in March on vacation. There are often protests when I am there visiting, but I truly don't want to get involved... My French isn't that good. Can you give me any advice of places to stay away from?

[mylye2222]

22. NOWHERE...no, seriously,

Stay besides the touristic attraction, no one can protest over there,without beeing arrested by cops ( o, I'm not kidding!) That is, no matters the group of activist you belog, otherwise foreigners could see Frace is ot aymore the Eldorado they imagine.

[tavernier]

37. Thank you for the advice.

It had gotten rather rough around the hotel we stayed in three years ago across from the Gard Du Nord - many people sleeping on the sidewalk after dark - and I think they were doing it more to protest, not because they were homeless. It wasn't a good advertisement for tourists. 😄
We will have children along so we won't be making any trouble.

[uppityperson]

21. Is your issue the protest with the signs or the attitudes behind them, or both?

Do you thonk Europe will break up into other countries, or war within or between countries? Your being there, you see more immediately than we do.

[mylye2222]

24. As far as I can imagine,

I see not war between EU countries, but civil wars inside a single nation can be wiedly possible, yes, and sadly.....

[JustAnotherGen]

25. Gaaah

Je n'espère pas mon ami. J'ai ont voyagé là mes temps et aime les gens. Surtout dans le sud. Mon Français n'est pas aussi bon plus depuis que j'ai épousé un homme de l'Italie et j'apprends maintenant italien. Desolee.

[mylye2222]

28. Non, don't worry

Ton français reste excellet! It's allright. I fully understood what you meant.

[hunter]

30. Racism and hate never left U.S.A.

We're still flooded. Even here on DU.

[moondust]

31. Teach tolerance.

I imagine a lot of this stems from years of immigration from the Middle East and Africa, causing a lot of culture clash and friction. It drives the extreme RW nationalists crazy.

The U.S. also has problems stemming from immigration though probably not as bad as European countries since the U.S. is farther away and harder to get to.

One organization in the U.S. that monitors hate groups, advises law enforcement on their activities, and has the resources to take some of them down in court is the Southern Poverty Law Center:

Our Teaching Tolerance program is working to foster school environments that are inclusive and nurturing – classrooms where equality and justice are not just taught, but lived. The program points to the future, helping teachers prepare a new generation to live in a diverse world.

[mylye2222]

34. You're just so right

In France, immigrants are since long hosted in the "cités " or ghettos, and, by time thoses places are become big trafficing markets and violent alternative "states". They were also for decades baned from better jobs, studies etc... Ad so they became more and more frustrated and turned for comfort to communautarism. And thats cotributed to increase the tenses, yes

[Scootaloo]

35. Loud dickheads do not a national movement make

And I see it's Algemeiner. I could go on for days about this outlet. here, just have a look at the sentements expressed in the comments:

France’s Jews need to get the hell out of there.

Time for French Jews to get out.

how about No Jews!Time to saddle up and Ride off into the Sunrise! (did you think I would say Sunset?)

end of the day there's really no difference between the racist shitheads in the march, and the racist shitheads in the comments section - both are antisemites who believe Jews have no place among other peoples or nations. It's just that one group claims their antisemitism is actually Jew-friendly. That's pretty par for the course with the Algemeiner and most other dedicated Zionist outlets like it - make the entire world look like a horrible, terrifying place for Jews, and hope to scare them into Israel.

[Mosby]

39. Paris anti-Hollande march turns hateful against Jews

(JTA) — A march through Paris against French President Francois Hollande ended with anti-Semitic chants and cries of support for an anti-Semitic comedian.

At least 150 protesters were arrested in the “Day of Anger” demonstrations on Sunday, according to reports. Nineteen police officers were injured in clashes with protesters, one seriously, the French news agency AFP reported. Police estimated that 17,000 participated in the march.

Protesters performed the quenelle, a gesture reminiscent of the Hitler salute that was invented by the anti-Semitic French comedian Dieudonne M’bala M’bala. They also called for freedom of speech on Dieudonne’s behalf.



Anti-Semitic chants included “Jews go home” and “Jews, France is not your country,” according to Israel Radio.

http://www.jta.org/2014/01/27/news-opinion/world/paris-anti-hollande-march-turns-against-jews

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4481469,00.html

The Quenelle:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024240928