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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
3. It is shameful. And shameful to use it as a rally call.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:20 PM
Jan 2014

That should never happen. I am appalled that Obama thinks this is a point of pride.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
5. and I bet everyone stood up applauding?
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:22 PM
Jan 2014

This is why I don't watch that crap. Being proud of sending men to wars is nauseating.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
6. It was the big nationalistic finish! Biggest, longest applause of the night
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:25 PM
Jan 2014

went to the guy who's spent a decade in wars-of-choice zones.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
7. I knew it. I'm glad I didn't watch, would have needed a barf bag handy
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:27 PM
Jan 2014

I hate that super patriotism nonsense.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
11. Honestly, I was pretty much with him aside from that.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:33 PM
Jan 2014

I didn't believe the bit about the drone program or that the eras of wars are ending. But, I was going along until that. It was just unnecessary and offensive and called attention to his failed war policies.

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
14. ...like a bad flashback...
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jan 2014

the repeated, long, bipartisan applause on all things military was a theme on its own. It gives one flashbacks indeed.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. It was tied to the statement that
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:31 PM
Jan 2014

America must stop being on a permanent war footing.

So you're wrong about it. And that's what happens when you spout what you yourself have called "crap" without knowing the context. That's why I argued earlier that if you're not going to watch, then don't comment.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
10. While claiming to want to get the U.S. off a "permanent war footing"
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:33 PM
Jan 2014

Tweety was gushing over what a wonderful line that was and then, in the same gush, said "He said that in 2008 and says it again now." Like it was a good thing that it's been nearly 6 years and we're still in Afghanistan and making noises that we should stay there longer.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
12. OK, its good if he said we need to get off a permanent war footing, but the jingo patriotism
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:36 PM
Jan 2014

and using a soldier as a prop is the flag waving kind of stuff that really annoyed me when I watched these things before in the past.

Want a big standing applause line? Bring out the soldier/war hero!!

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
13. I agree with you completely
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:41 PM
Jan 2014

and I don't believe for a minute that he meant what he said about getting us off a permanent war footing. He's had 5 years to it and I haven't seen any movement in that direction.

When Tweety started swooning over that line and then said "He said it in 2008 and he said it again tonight" - I could only wonder if that didn't tell him something about how sincere that line was.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
16. just posted on FB
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:35 AM
Jan 2014

Now to dupe post on that thing from Will Pitt. Enjoy! - 90% Jimmy

TEN F’ING DEPLOYMENTS! We Americans treat our factory farmed animals better than we treated the brave and patriotic young people we sent repeatedly to fight our war of choice in Iraq! Why on earth should we feel proud or patriotic about the cruel and unusual punishments we asked of people like Army Ranger Cory Remsburg? (I wonder if Dick Cheney said to himself; “So what? He volunteered!” when he watched this?)

Many of the elected idiots in that room are directly responsible for supporting the needless and downright stupid invasion of Iraq. I hope what’s left of their conscience eventually realizes the extent of needless human misery they forced upon people that volunteered to serve their country! Please also consider the hundreds of thousands of displaced and dead Iraqis that was also a mostly forgotten consequence. I wonder how much patriotic feeling would have been invoked if one of their grievously wounded also shared the stage with the President and Remsburg?

War should be the last terrible choice only in dire circumstances where the security and well being of our country is at bona fide risk. i.e., WW2. It should not be merely another choice in our bag of tricks for international policy!!!!! Like Obama has said; “I’m not against all wars. Just stupid ones.”

What about WAR IS HELL do these monsters not understand?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
18. That number is deceptive
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:41 AM
Jan 2014

he is a Ranger. Rangers, like all special forces, do lots of short deployments as opposed to long one year deployments. They usually deploy for two or three months of intensive operations before returning to base to train and plan for their next operation.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
19. I talked to a good friend of mine about deployments a while back.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:54 AM
Jan 2014

He was deployed to Iraq twice, and he told me that some of those guys volunteer for the extra deployments. Most do it for the money, but some do it out of a sense of duty for their brothers. Rangers, especially, have a strong sense of duty.

I guess I can understand extra deployments for Rangers, Seals, and other special forces, but regular troops should never serve that many deployments. They shouldn't even be allowed to volunteer for that many. Not only is it too hard on them, it costs our VA a lot more money to treat guys that have so many deployments.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
20. Regular troops never serve that many deployments
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:26 AM
Jan 2014

they do one year rotations (7 months for Marines) with at least a year (usually more) between deployments.

Ten deployments for special forces = three regular deployments

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
21. Not really outraged about this.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:09 PM
Jan 2014

He's special forces. Something people do when they want to go way over and above because they enjoy that lifestyle.

Normal troops, sure, but this case is a nontroversy.

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