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(116,464 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:34 AM Feb 2014

(Republicans are) Welcoming an ugly, divisive fight

Welcoming an ugly, divisive fight

By Steve Benen

Following up on Rachel’s report last night, we don’t yet know for certain whether Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) will veto the proposed right-to-discriminate bill, but by all appearances, a veto appears quite likely. Opposition to the measure, SB1062, has become overwhelming – even Republican voters in the state are against it – and the governor seems all too aware of the adverse consequences if she signs the measure into law...perhaps the most surprising aspect of this fight is that other conservative state policymakers elsewhere are watching the divisive fiasco unfold and they’re apparently thinking to themselves, “Let’s bring that ugliness here!”

Arizona’s legislature was the first to pass a right-to-discriminate bill, but it was hardly the first to consider one. Over the last couple of months, similar measures were debated in Kansas, South Dakota, and Tennessee...There are still some GOP state lawmakers, however, who are eager to bring the controversy, scorn, and threat of boycotts to their state, on purpose. Adam Serwer reported on the latest developments in Georgia.

Georgia is the latest state to consider legislation that could sanction discrimination in the name of religious freedom.

There are two versions of the Georgia bill – a state House version, HB 1023, and a state Senate version, SB 377. Both would affirm the “right to act or refuse to act in a manner substantially motivated by a sincerely held religious tenet or belief whether or not the exercise is compulsory or a central part or requirement of the person’s religious tenets or beliefs.”

The bill, Adam added, is “moving rapidly through the Georgia legislature.”...a Republican state senator in Missouri is watching this acrimonious fight unfold elsewhere, and announced yesterday he wants the same debate in his state...What kind of elected official sees a contentious argument over a problem that doesn’t exist and chooses to deliberately impose that fight on his or her state?...as Rachel noted on the show, while similar bills have already failed, the right-to-discriminate campaign is very much ongoing in a wide variety of states.

“In Ohio, a bill like this has also been introduced there in the House. In Nevada, a bill like this is making its way through a committee. Same story in Idaho, where a Republican bill has been moved back to committee.

“Republicans in Oklahoma have proposed a bill like this. Republicans in Hawaii have proposed a bill like this. Republicans in Mississippi have already passed a bill like this through the state senate and it’s now on the way to the Mississippi House. Republicans in Utah are trying to pass this measure as an amendment. Republicans in Oregon are trying to get it on to the ballot.”

Remember, these fights are on top of the debates underway in Arizona, Georgia, and Missouri...there are now 15 states – nearly a third of the country – where Republican state lawmakers have at least proposed a right-to-discriminate measure.

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(263,903 posts)
1. The real sad truth here is that these fugging nasty vindictive
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:37 AM
Feb 2014

ReTHUG scumbags have never read the 'effin Constitution.

Forget everything else - his stupid law is unconstitutional.

These ducking idiots make the Muslim zealots look like liberals.


(33,576 posts)
5. How on earth do you quantify "sincere"?
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:42 AM
Feb 2014

"There are two versions of the Georgia bill – a state House version, HB 1023, and a state Senate version, SB 377. Both would affirm the “right to act or refuse to act in a manner substantially motivated by a sincerely held religious tenet or belief whether or not the exercise is compulsory or a central part or requirement of the person’s religious tenets or beliefs.”

Idiots. Absolute idiots. And hate-filled, fearful ones at that--the most dangerous kind.



(45,319 posts)
12. Nope, there are no Federal protections for LGBT people, when we call for them DU
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:33 AM
Feb 2014

has historically shouted us down by saying 'you just want a fabulous pink pony'. 29 States also have no protections for LGBT people in housing and employment, in AZ today you can refuse service, you can fire, evict, refuse a lease to a gay person just like this 'no because you are gay' and this new law is not even needed, they can discriminate right now.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
7. They seem determined to legislate their way into irrelevance.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:59 AM
Feb 2014

Not only is this a corrupt, ineffectual party of regressive reactionaries, they are incapable of offering any vision for the future to help the bottom 98% of this country. Unless, it's to take us back to the "good old days" that weren't all that good in reality. If it weren't for a few very active billionaires willing to prop this joke of a political party up, we'd have buried this rotting pachyderm carcass decades ago.


(1,460 posts)
8. Welcoming an ugly and divisive fight
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:07 AM
Feb 2014

I find this absolutely disgusting and embarassing. In this country (labeled the most democratic and best country in the world by those who have their own best interests in mind) we have elected officials that will openly discriminate against people who are not like them. Years ago it was the color of their skin, now it's the choice of the person you love. How anyone could support a bill like the ones in these states is beyond reason. We are not the most democratic and best country in the world. We have lowered ourselves to mindless idiots that impose our will (at will) on people who live their lives and pay their taxes but differ in the way they think and feel about the person they love. How despicable!!! Fortunately, in Arizona there is outrage enough that, hopefully, the governor will veto the bill. Georgia and Ohio, I'm not so sure. This is not the country I grew up in. We have lowered ourselves to second class citizens that allow our legislators impose their will on whomever they please simply in the name of party unity. Party unity? If that is the case, who would really want to be associated this it? This is so embarassing for the country. I know, I know. If I don't like it, then leave. That's the biggest cop out ever uttered. The response should be, if you don't like, fix it. That can only happen by voting those out of office who are bigoted hypocrites.


(21,475 posts)
9. Since half of our base never bothers to vote, I believe the ONLY answer is
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:17 AM
Feb 2014

"Vote By Mail" If Democrats don't wake up about this then they will always be pushed around by the Republican minority.


(1,460 posts)
10. What the Dems need is a voice
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 09:23 AM
Feb 2014

The Dems need a dynamic voice like Teddy Kennedy that can level the playing field. You are correct that the Dems get pushed around, but a voice like Kennedy's would not let that happen. Who has that? Hillary? Or is it someone from the governor or mayor list?


(291,768 posts)
17. I think the state legislators are doing this to get money in their
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:08 PM
Feb 2014

slime infested coffers. End of story.

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