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Update: "Get A Life You Worthless Bum"

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End the Savage RW Tearing Apart of America and her People~

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Reply Update: "Get A Life You Worthless Bum" (Original post)
Cha Mar 2014 OP
Cha Mar 2014 #1
MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #2
Rex Mar 2014 #20
Enthusiast Mar 2014 #25
ProSense Mar 2014 #3
Cha Mar 2014 #5
ProSense Mar 2014 #15
Cha Mar 2014 #17
flamingdem Mar 2014 #6
kristopher Mar 2014 #22
flamingdem Mar 2014 #4
Cha Mar 2014 #7
flamingdem Mar 2014 #19
Cha Mar 2014 #23
sheshe2 Mar 2014 #8
Cha Mar 2014 #10
neverforget Mar 2014 #9
Cha Mar 2014 #11
neverforget Mar 2014 #12
Cha Mar 2014 #13
Scootaloo Mar 2014 #14
adirondacker Mar 2014 #16
neverforget Mar 2014 #21
Enthusiast Mar 2014 #27
Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #18
Enthusiast Mar 2014 #24
Cha Mar 2014 #26
Cha Mar 2014 #28
Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #29
merrily Mar 2014 #32
Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #33
merrily Mar 2014 #34
Cha Mar 2014 #30
merrily Mar 2014 #31
Beartracks Mar 2014 #35
Cha Mar 2014 #36
Cha Mar 2014 #37
Cha Mar 2014 #38
Cha Mar 2014 #39
Cha Mar 2014 #40
Cha Mar 2014 #41
mcar Mar 2014 #42
Cha Mar 2014 #43
Cha Mar 2014 #44

Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:15 AM

1. thank you for the RECS guys! I'll just KICK

er!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:20 AM

2. Two-Thirds of Americans favor Medicare for All,

 

increasing Social Security payments, repealing the Bush tax cuts, ending "free" trade agreements...

Can you imagine if elected Democrats wanted those things, too? The mid-term elections would take three days to complete, the lines would be so long.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:17 AM

20. We can only hope moderates show up and vote for Democrats.

 

They mostly sold us out in 2010;
Vote by Ideology
Total
Democrat Republican Other/No Answer
Liberal (20%)
90%
8%
2%


Moderate (38%)
55%
42%
3%


Conservative (42%)
13%
84%
3%

Of course liberals voted in huge numbers for Dems.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/polls/#USH00p1

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:40 AM

25. +1 an entire shit load!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:21 AM

3. Howard Dean on supporting Dems "who may disagree with us on a fundamental issue"

DEAN: The Pro-Life candidates that I was interested in supporting were people who agreed with the Democratic platform in almost every other respect. Therefore, it's very clear, that even a Pro-Life Democrat who may disagree with us on a fundamental issue is a huge improvement over the person who was there before. So, are there some Democrats I would not support? Yes—and No I'm not gonna tell you who they are. But there are not many. Most of the Democrats who are Pro-Life—are very very good on a lot of other issues and I don't want to exclude people like that from out party.

- more -

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/606/transcript.html

Wendy Davis is pro-choice, but pro-gun. Should Democrats withhold their support?

The 50-state strategy carried a lot of blue dogs to Congress.

Howard Dean, vindicated

Only weeks after the Democratic National Committee chose Howard Dean as its chairman last year, the nasty whispers began to circulate around Washington and among longtime party donors and activists in cities from New York to Los Angeles. “He’s going to be a disaster,” they muttered. “He can’t raise any money. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. And what does he mean by this crazy 50-state strategy?”

Those early days must have been painful for the former Vermont governor — still smarting back then from his presidential primary defeat and that endlessly looped “scream” video — and he endured a barrage of snarks and snipes from the Democratic congressional leadership as well. Unfortunately for Dean, he doesn’t play the Washington press corps nearly as well as do rivals like Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., who ran the House Democrats’ campaign committee, or Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who performed the same role in the Senate.

<...>

Breaking that advantage would be costly and difficult, as Dean well realized, but it had to be done someday, or the Democrats would fulfill Karl Rove’s dream of becoming a permanent minority party — or fading away altogether. Against the counsel of party professionals, whose long losing streak has done little to diminish their influence, the new chairman began the process of re-creating the Democratic Party in 2005. And contrary to the gossip and subsequent press reports, he succeeded in raising $51 million last year, about 20 percent more than in 2003 and a party record for an off year.

Much of that money was spent in ways that obviously paid off on Tuesday, including the 2005 election of Democratic Gov. Tim Kaine in Virginia — where Jim Webb’s upset victory over incumbent Sen. George Allen overturned Republican control of the Senate. Several million dollars was spent on rebuilding the party’s national voter files, yet another essential sector in which the Republicans have enormous technological superiority.

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http://www.salon.com/2006/11/10/dean_dems/

You can see the candidates won the House and Senate in 2006:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2006#Seats_that_changed_party

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2006#Race_summary

A lot of them lost in 2010. I have to admit that I was glad to see Jason Altmire lose.

http://my.democrats.org/page/event/detail/4jg8j

Jim Webb, who retired in 2012, was also no great loss. The two current Senators from VA are of a similar mold.


The other thread will sink. LOL!





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Response to ProSense (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:27 AM

5. thank you, PS! Good place to post it

again tying in with the upcoming 2014 Midterms. Howard Dean had it correct.

This will sink in GD unless I keep Kicking. Which I plan to do.

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:01 AM

15. Taking back the country

means governorships and other offices.

<...>

Republicans control 25 of the 39 elected secretaries of State, but the top targets for both parties are in presidential battleground states. There are open seats in Iowa, Colorado and Nevada, where incumbent secretaries are running for higher office; in Ohio, where secretaries have played key roles in presidential election voting decisions since at least 2004, Republican incumbent Jon Husted is being challenged by Democratic state Sen. Nina Turner.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/02/19/secretary-of-state-pac/5575097/

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Response to ProSense (Reply #15)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:08 AM

17. Yes, it does! the republiCons are doing so much damage to our Country

in these secretary of state offices.

Good Luck to Nina Turner in Ohio!

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Response to ProSense (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:28 AM

6. Dean with practical advice

Thanks for this!!

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Response to ProSense (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:22 AM

22. +1

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:26 AM

4. A sense of urgency has got to break through

because in spite of it all people will stay home!

So how will people be convinced that they have a stake in the outcome?

Well, let's grab this like a dog w bone and not let go, this should be our theme til November

Take Back the House!

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:32 AM

7. There's a Graphic made just for your Call to Vote, flamingdem.. it goes like this..



Mahalo~

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:14 AM

19. I'm going to need a bus!

I remember the midterms at our community college, many students were not even aware of where to go. It took 15 minutes per to make headway. Little by little!

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:24 AM

23. A bus it is.. and Thank you! I'm thinking we're going

to be better prepared in November and leading up to it.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:32 AM

8. I have said many times.

Vote as if your life depended on it. This is because it does.

If any Democrat sits back and withholds their vote, then they only have themselves to blame.

GOTV2014!

Thanks Cha!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:36 AM

10. Thank you, she~

I thought this Graphic was especially illuminating.. with the Republicon Vote in the Senate Against the Veteran Benefits being tied to more Sanctions in Iran. I'm sorry I didn't know that.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:34 AM

9. Well we'd better win the so-called independents because that's how we lost 2010.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2010-midterms-political-price-economic-pain/story?id=12041739&singlePage=true

Women voted 49-48 percent for Democratic vs. Republican House candidate -- the best for Republicans among women in national House vote in exit polls since 1982. Obama won women by 13 points in 2008.

Democrats and Republicans were at parity in self-identification nationally, 36-36 percent, a return to the close division seen in years before 2008, when it broke dramatically in the Democrats' favor, 40-33 percent.

Swing-voting independents who, as usual, made the difference, favored Republicans for House by a thumping 16 points, 55-39 percent. Compare that to Obama's 8-point win among independents in 2008. It was the Republicans' biggest win among independents in exit polls dating to 1982 (by two points. The GOP won independents by 14 points in 1994, the last time they took control of the House.)

Sixty percent of whites backed Republican House candidates, the most in exit polls dating back to 1982. (In presidential rather than House vote Ronald Reagan won more whites in 1984).

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Response to neverforget (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:37 AM

11. That was then and this is now..

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Response to Cha (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:42 AM

12. And the same lessons apply in this midterm as 2010. We got our asses handed to us by the

middle. Our message needs to resonate with them whatever that is.

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Response to neverforget (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:43 AM

13. Yes, it does and I believe it will Now.

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Response to neverforget (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:58 AM

14. I have a better idea...

 

Instead of the democratic party selling itself out in order to woo a bunch of apathetic flakes who can't decide until they enter the booth - and then vote based on who has nicest hair - why not spend more time activating their supposed "base" among liberals.

The "independents and undecideds" often cite an inability to tell what a politician's values and positions really are as the reason they hold out. They're the big harbor of the notion that "the parties are the same." You want to move them? Move left. Take real positions. If htey don't like it, we didn't want them anyway.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:05 AM

16. +1000. Well said. nt

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:19 AM

21. I'm not saying to sell out for their votes. We did well in

2008 & 2012 because we had a message that was somewhat liberal. I say we go with a liberal message instead of running from our values.

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Response to neverforget (Reply #21)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:42 AM

27. The liberal message isn't our values?

I'm confused.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:08 AM

18. Agree. Polling shows that with this GOP controlled House

 

Thecwill of the American people on most issues is being denied. From minimum wage to infrastructure and jobs bills.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:36 AM

24. Turn out!

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:41 AM

26. Turn Out, indeed, Enthusiast!

GOTV2014

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 03:59 AM

28. GOTV2014!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:15 AM

29. Are there any links to statistics backing up these historical "facts".

 

I always hear the claims, usually used to blame progressives for 2010, but I have to see statistics that back up the claims.

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Response to Cheese4TheRat (Reply #29)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:33 AM

32. I thought Democrats lost in 2010 because Indies stayed home.

But, whoever stayed home, he or she should go to the polls.

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Response to merrily (Reply #32)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:36 AM

33. Well, the Democrats haven't lost 2014 yet.

 



However, I do not believe the turn out in 2010 was all that different than 2006. Certainly it was lower than 2008, but that is always the case, and is an invalid comparison.

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Response to Cheese4TheRat (Reply #33)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:43 AM

34. Thanks for the catch. I edited my prior post.

However, I do not believe the turn out in 2010 was all that different than 2006. Certainly it was lower than 2008, but that is always the case, and is an invalid comparison.


I don't want to speak for the OP, but I thought the historical point the OP was making was about midterm elections. Of course, I could always be wrong, but that was my take.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:20 AM

30. GOTV2014~

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:31 AM

31. I thought it was Indies who stayed home. Everyone should vote!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:04 AM

35. Kick AND rec! And kick and rec and kick and rec and....

It cannot be said enough: NOT voting in the mid-terms is an outright abdication.

It sends the message: please, Republicans, we want you to decide our fates.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #35)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:14 AM

36. Right Beartracks! And, Please republicons..

everything you've been doing with filibusters and your voting record in the House and Senate is just fine with us. Not even.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:46 AM

37. GOTV2014

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 04:55 PM

38. 2014GOTV

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:11 PM

39. 2014GOTV

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:46 PM

40. GOTV2014

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:56 PM

41. ..

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 05:59 PM

42. Voting in Florida

Has never been more important than now. In 2010 thousands of Florida teachers didn't vote in the gubernatorial race, according to the teacher's union. We've been stuck with Scott and a far right legislature that has butchered public education, not to mention the other atrocities.

There will never be a perfect candidate. But, as President Obama has said, "let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good."

When Democrats vote, Democrats win. It's that simple.

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Response to mcar (Reply #42)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 06:27 PM

43. Thank you, mcar.. I wonder why the Florida teachers didn't vote

in 2010? They can't be happy with themselves now.

Well, Since nobody's perfect.

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 07:10 PM

44. GOTV2014

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