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John Kerry: All Options on the table, including military action (Original Post) BrentWil Mar 2014 OP
That is not ProSense Mar 2014 #1
Thanks for this transcript mcar Mar 2014 #2
What's said is in the transcript... Of course he... BrentWil Mar 2014 #4
Cherry picking a group of words out of context is BS. ProSense Mar 2014 #6
Here is Kerry's latest tweet, 15 mn ago. Mass Mar 2014 #8
Thanks. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #9
Yeah, he did... Read the link. BrentWil Mar 2014 #3
Sure, he did. You always do that. But it is never to be taken seriously out of context. Mass Mar 2014 #5
You beat me to it. That is correct. That is what you always say. The proof that it will not happen stevenleser Mar 2014 #11
What would be a wonderful thing is if DU had a committee. Autumn Mar 2014 #7
+1 jsr Mar 2014 #14
People who rush to tell a poster that isn't what was said,when it was, Autumn Mar 2014 #15
It wasn't "what was said." You seem to want to confirm that Kerry is pushing war. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #17
Yes, Kerry did say "all options are on the table" . Autumn Mar 2014 #19
No, ProSense Mar 2014 #20
+10,000 nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #21
Yey. Lets get US into yet another war. LisaL Mar 2014 #10
"Military action" sound perfunctory Bad Thoughts Mar 2014 #12
Maybe he should have said "we won't do anything, go ahead Russia, have fun". Avalux Mar 2014 #13
Sure he did...He 'also' said "And we are prepare to stand up against any hooligans" SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #16
you are ruining this poster's Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #18

BrentWil

(2,384 posts)
4. What's said is in the transcript... Of course he...
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:29 PM
Mar 2014

Said the other. However, this is what is news and important.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Cherry picking a group of words out of context is BS.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:37 PM
Mar 2014

"However, this is what is news and important."

No, it's not what is "important."

Kerry is clearly leading the diplomatic effort, and Hagel concedes that.

Hagel On Ukraine: 'This Could Be A Very Dangerous Situation'

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel on Sunday warned that the situation in Ukraine could become increasingly unstable.

"This could be a very dangerous situation if this continues in a very provocative way. We have many options, like any nations do," he said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

However, Hagel said that the U.S. should remain focused on diplomacy for now.

"We're trying to deal with a diplomatic focus. That's the appropriate, responsible approach," he said.

When asked if the U.S. had any military plans ready in case intervention was necessary, Hagel would not provide details.

"Well, we have plans for everything, all the time," he answered.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hagel-ukraine-russia-dangerous

The media and pro-war types love to ask a variation of the "are all option on the table" quesiton so they can push the war meme by taking statements out of context.

Warmongers don't care about doing the "responsible" thing.


Mass

(27,315 posts)
8. Here is Kerry's latest tweet, 15 mn ago.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:39 PM
Mar 2014
We're going to continue to engage diplomatically. It's the time for diplomacy. Nobody wants this to spiral in a worse direction.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
5. Sure, he did. You always do that. But it is never to be taken seriously out of context.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:30 PM
Mar 2014

Everybody but morons and media wanting a title people will click on know that.

Read the transcript, not the idiocy the MSM want you to believe,

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. You beat me to it. That is correct. That is what you always say. The proof that it will not happen
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:43 PM
Mar 2014

is, are US reserves being called up? Are we moving troops around?

Of course, none of that is happening.

Autumn

(45,064 posts)
7. What would be a wonderful thing is if DU had a committee.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:39 PM
Mar 2014

Then people could submit things they find on the various news sites and blogs to said committee and the committee could decide if it could be posted or not.

All Options on the table are always on the table. That's why we have such a large military. Posturing.

Autumn

(45,064 posts)
15. People who rush to tell a poster that isn't what was said,when it was,
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:53 PM
Mar 2014

people who rush to accuse others of cherry picking, people who say don't post what this person says post this, people who don't want discussion because that's not going to happen are always suspect in my eyes. They seem to work overtime to make sure they control the discussion and only their point of view is posted.

Autumn

(45,064 posts)
19. Yes, Kerry did say "all options are on the table" .
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 01:02 PM
Mar 2014

Deny it all you want, who to believe??? John Kerry on TV speaking it out of his mouth or you saying he didn't say it. Oh yeah he did say
"This is a time for diplomacy..." one sentence spoken does not fucking cancel out the other.
What a dilemma......

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. No,
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 01:10 PM
Mar 2014

"Yes, Kerry did say 'all options are on the table' Deny it all you want, who to believe??? John Kerry on TV speaking it out of his mouth or you saying he didn't say it. Oh yeah he did say 'This is a time for diplomacy...' one sentence spoken does not fucking cancel out the other."

...and context matters. Kerry did say "I think all options are on the table" in response to a question about "military aid"

STEPHANOPOULOS: So let me just pin you down on that. You say that Congress is considering military aid to Ukraine. You want Congress to pass military aid to Ukraine. But do you want to impose economic sanctions – economically, excuse me. Do you want them to impose economic sanctions on Russia?

KERRY: They welcome that we would have to engage in that kind of activity, absolutely. I think all options are on the table. There’s no question but that Russia needs to understand this is serious, and we and other friends and allies engaged in this are all deadly serious about this. You cannot behave this way in the 21st century and sit around the table with the normal entities and pretend that life is as usual. It is not going to be as usual, but we believe there is an alternative. We call on Russia to engage with the government of Ukraine. We’re prepared to work very closely with Russia in order to address whatever legitimate concerns may exist. We believe there are many alternatives before you get to an invasion, and none of those have been tried at this point in time.



Here is Kerry's direct response to the question: "are there any military options on the table?"

STEPHANOPOULOS: Sir, are there any military options on the table? During the crisis with Georgia, President Bush moved military warships to the region, sent humanitarian aid on a military aircraft. Is the U.S. prepared to do that now? Anything more?

KERRY: George, the hope of the United States and everybody in the world is not to see this escalate into a military confrontation. That will not serve the world well, and I think everybody understands that. The president has all options on the table, but the president’s preference was clearly stated yesterday in his hour and a half conversation with President Putin. President Obama made it clear that we are prepared to work with Russia. We understand that Russia has interests in Crimea. The Ukraine government is prepared to respect the base agreement. Nobody threatened those Russia interests. And we are prepare to stand up against any hooligans, any thuggery, any individual efforts with Russians in order to create stability in Ukraine and allow the people of Ukraine to make their choices for the future.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024590090

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
10. Yey. Lets get US into yet another war.
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:41 PM
Mar 2014

But this time with someone who can actually capable of inflicting serious damage.

Bad Thoughts

(2,522 posts)
12. "Military action" sound perfunctory
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:45 PM
Mar 2014

I doubt the US is positioned to do anything. I think the best that could be done is promise to arm a truncated Ukraine.

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
16. Sure he did...He 'also' said "And we are prepare to stand up against any hooligans"
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:55 PM
Mar 2014
STEPHANOPOULOS: I understand (ph) it’s a violation, sir. So what’s the penalty for what Russia has already done?

KERRY: Well, we are busy right now coordinating with our counterparts in many parts of the world. Yesterday, the president of the United States had an hour and a half conversation with President Putin. He pointed out importantly that we don’t want this to be a larger confrontation. We are not looking for a U.S.-Russia, East-West redux here. What we want is for Russia to work with us, with Ukraine. If they have legitimate concerns, George, about Russian speaking people in Ukraine, there are plenty of ways to deal with that without invading the country. They have the ability to work with the government, they could work with us, they could work with the UN. They could call for observers to be put in the country. There are all kinds of alternatives. But Russia has chosen this aggressive act, which really puts in question Russia’s role in the world and Russia’s willingness to be a modern nation and part of the G8.

I think there are, you know, they are inviting the possibility of very serious repercussions on trade, on investment, on assets, asset freeze, visa bonds (ph). The potential of actions by the global community against this unilateral step.

....


KERRY: George, the hope of the United States and everybody in the world is not to see this escalate into a military confrontation. That will not serve the world well, and I think everybody understands that. The president has all options on the table, but the president’s preference was clearly stated yesterday in his hour and a half conversation with President Putin. President Obama made it clear that we are prepared to work with Russia. We understand that Russia has interests in Crimea. The Ukraine government is prepared to respect the base agreement. Nobody threatened those Russia interests. And we are prepare to stand up against any hooligans, any thuggery, any individual efforts with Russians in order to create stability in Ukraine and allow the people of Ukraine to make their choices for the future.


http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-john-kerry/story?id=22720806&singlePage=true

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
18. you are ruining this poster's
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 01:01 PM
Mar 2014

Get your war monger on thread


among the others posted so far

Nicely done though.


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