If anything made American look so weak Putin attacked Uraine it was

[applegrove]

the GOP ( their constant do nothing congress for 5 years and attack on all things Obama foreign policy in the last year and a half). They are the real weakness of America....America attacking itself so rich people can get richer.

[lumpy]

1. Definately the GOP's onslaught against the presidency has weakened the ability to get much

accomplished. United we stand divided we fall, you know.

[alarimer]

22. Yet criticism of Bush was tantamount to treason.

What about differences stopping at the borders?

(I personally disagreed with this approach then and I do now. I think the President is fair game for criticism whenever and where ever, even if it is incorrect. All this unity bullshit is for the birds. If he's wrong, he's wrong and we should say so. But I do think the Republicans are absolutely delusional on this issue).

I'm just enjoying pointing out the hypocrisy of Republicans. I don't think Obama is necessarily correct here, not do I think he is particularly wrong. I don't think we need to be in lockstep. I just don't believe in unity at all costs.

[kardonb]

23. abcompished

ethe GOP has never seen a war it did not like and wanted to get involved in . We have enough problems here at home , lets get working on those , and let other countries solve their OWN problems .

[okaawhatever]

2. Let's not forget Bush doing absolutely nothing against his invasion of Georgia. nt

[Turbineguy]

12. McCain was in Georgia

two weeks before that war. If the Georgians had prevailed the GOP would have anointed him as the Greatest Military Genius Since Frederick the Great.

[kmlisle]

19. Funny thing - He was in Ukraine just before that war too

[frazzled]

3. **What about the European Union?**

I guess the whole world is "weak," compared with Putin. This issue began over a tug of war between the European Union and Russia over financial ties to Ukraine. How all of a sudden is the US the central figure in this contretemps?

[Blanks]

13. I'm pretty sure Fox News decided. eom

[applegrove]

14. Like it or not America is the leader

of the free world. Lots of places in the world look to the US for strength. Evil people look for weakness. Putin is an evil strongman. It is how he rolls.

[pjt7]

4. Americans Need to Grow up

with the "looking weak" generic baloney talk, anytime another Nation makes a military move for their own interests.

[rwsanders]

10. My wife has been watching "24" and season 2 shows how nonsensical that phrase is...

its a "red meat" phrase to the rabid right, but it keeps presidents pressured into military action.
Reminds me of a picture that my Tae Kwon Do instructor kept in his studio, it was a Norman Rockwell print with a farmer holding a small bird he had found in the field and the quote was "there is nothing so strong as gentleness, and nothing so gentle as real strength".
I learned there 2 confident people have nothing to fight over. Its the scared people you have to watch out for.

Also reminds me of Lincoln's quote "don't I also destroy my enemy when I make him my friend".

I've never been so appalled as when the republicans tried to make "diplomacy" a bad word and when they criticize a public official for daring to shake hands with someone they don't approve of.

[freshwest]

28. You nailed it. n/t

[penultimate]

15. I agree with ya 100%

It's such a silly notion that always pops up whenever any country does anything in their own interest or benefit. It's not even limited to just military moves either, but if even if a country does something like launch astronauts into space or sends a rover to the moon. Somehow those get warped into being about how the US is either weak or a failure.

[2naSalit]

26. A "thought"

process borne entirely of ignorance... if you can call that thinking.

[Erose999]

5. The tea-party and their gov't shutdown certainly didn't help, nor the constant fight over the debt

ceiling.

[Cha]

6. K!

[napkinz]

7. Thanks REPUBLICANS for Emboldening Putin! --->

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024596843

[SheilaT]

8. I'm not sure I understand.

It's this country's fault that Putin is invading Ukraine? How? Why?

[bvf]

24. No, not this country's,

just Obama's. Still waiting for a Fox type or two to blame Obamacare specifically, but they'll take what they can pull out of their rancid behinds.

The OP is right on the money, too. You can bet that if Obama ordered immediate military intervention (not in a million years), the assholes would find another reason to cry bloody murder. Probably something to do with Obamacare.

[Skittles]

30. FAIL

no mention of Benghazi??

[Gore1FL]

9. It makes me wonder what made America look week when Russian troops were in Georgia.

That happened under Bush.

[JI7]

11. there is a lack of knowledge about the world and people don't have the ability to see things

through other people's views or sides. when people see the russia/ukraine thing as being mainly a US issue there is a problem. but it happens a lot.

[applegrove]

16. Putin certainly would take his relationship

with the US into account before he invaded. He may also have taken US dependance on Russia for peace talks in Syria and anti nuke talks with Iran into account when he attacked. What do you mean we can‘t talk about US power and how it is projected around the world in this discussion forum? On this issue?

[JI7]

18. i didn't say you can't talk about it, i'm referring to those who think it's mainly about the US

but know nothing about the situation itself. they will use anything that happens as proof that Obama is weak, bad etc.

[regnaD kciN]

17. I got a tweet this morning...

Say what you will about George W Bush, but he wouldn't have stood for Russian aggression in Ukraine. He'd have invaded New Zealand by now.

[bvf]

25. Saw that here and somebody owes me a keyboard and a fresh coffee. eom

[Chico Man]

20. This is kind of a Moranic post

Grammar and proof-reading used to be valued here.

[applegrove]

21. Sorry. Dyslexic and typing on my cellphone. Do you have

any feelings on the content?

[Chico Man]

32. Yes

My feeling is that I have no idea what you mean

[freshwest]

27. They have been called a threat to national security, and I agree with that. And we are tired of war.

[grahamhgreen]

29. How bout losing in Afghanistan AFTER Russia lost in Afghanistan!

[malaise]

31. The NSA spying hasnn't helped

and Bushco's lying escapade into Iraq didn't help. The drones don't do much for democracy and freedom either.