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Im really going to set you back here. Probably the biggest turn we ever made was when the women got the right to vote. Our country might have been better off if it was still just men voting. There is nothing worse than a bunch of mean, hateful women. They are diabolical in how than can skewer a person. I do not see that in men. The whole time I worked, Id much rather have a male boss than a female boss. Double-minded, you never can trust them.
Because women have the right to vote, I am active, because I want to make sure there is some sanity for women in the political world. It is up to the Christian rednecks and patriots to stand up for our country. Everyone has the right to vote now thats 18 or over (who is) a legal citizen, and every person thats 18 and over and a legal citizen should be active in local politics so they can make a change locally, make a change on the state level and make a change in Washington, D.C.
Janis Lane is not the only woman to voice issues with the womens vote. Back in 2007, Ann Coulter said that Democrats would never win an election again if women couldnt vote. She also thought that the Democrats ought to hang their heads in shame for having so much trouble getting men to vote for them.
She has since revised that, saying that not only is the womens vote bad, but also that liberal women should not be allowed to hold office. Liberal women, according to Coulter, get hysterical, start to cry, and are generally just too fragile to have a discussion with. This is about the same as what Janis Lane thinks.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/03/03/janis-lane-women-shouldnt-vote/
How any woman can pull the lever for one of these freaks is beyond me.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)That in my opinion - there is nothing worse than a bunch of mean, IndieTeaPUblican hateful women.
sakabatou
(42,146 posts)Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I mean I guess I could understand if you believed in a strict patriarchal society; one in which men were naturally leaders and women were naturally adjuncts to men; than you might vote for that. But it's telling to me that Janis Lane and Ann Coulter aren't like that - if they really believed in strict patriarchy, why do they feel like they should be out there?
Bryant
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)the womans movement.
sarcastic.... just in case
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)And no, I wouldn't hold a door open for her unless it was on the edge of a cliff.
Also sarcastic, just in case.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)while listening to the doors
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)These people will vote against their own best interest time in and time out. They support the parties moves to restrict voters, restrictions that they themselves may be impacted by.
It demonstrates that the mentality of these people has been so warped by the propaganda, they are incapable of making their own decisions.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)do as she says not as she does.
treestar
(82,383 posts)It's the other women being allowed to vote that is the problem. Their votes leave her with a world that is not to her liking.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)sibelian
(7,804 posts)As if men don't. Of COURSE they do.
When men are spineless and creepy it's not a Guy thing... why is it supposedly a Gal thing when women are spineless and creepy?
siligut
(12,272 posts)It is unexpected, hidden, and then wham!
Men have evolved overtime to act in support of the pack, women, haven't experienced quite the same conditioning or natural selection.
Plus, we know effective women who go against the patriarch have to be pushed down. Social pressure is a means of control.
If we're gong for evolutionary psychology (which is a terribly messy idea anyway) how can we exclude "the pack" as a selection pressure from the natural selection for "inherent feminine traits"? That would require isolation from the pack, which doesn't make any sense. If anything I'd say women would be MORE likely to experience an internal desire and/or capacity to relate to "the pack". Men would ordinarily have spent more time out of it, going off doing stuff in the Big Wide World, if we're to believe what we're told.
Aside from all that, though I believe men and women have differing instinctive emotional responses to certain kinds of situation, that doesn't in and of itself explain the cultural attribution of extra nastiness when women don't make their true motives or emotions clear, which is what I was originally rerferring to. Men do the same thing all the time and it isn't a "gendered" problem when they do it and it's a "gendered" problem when women do it.
siligut
(12,272 posts)The social pressure is created to dissuade and discredit the women in an attempt to prevent them from exerting that sort of intense, sneaky power.
From your example, yes women conformed to be a part of the pack, survival depended upon it. But fast forward and you find that the alpha males produced multiple children, a current example: Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum has 23 officially acknowledged children. Successful females were not as prolific.
I am quite interested in behavioral psychology and evolution/natural selection. I agree it is multilayered.
I am out of time for now, but this is important to me too.
sibelian
(7,804 posts)so to speak... lol
earthside
(6,960 posts)Stories like this ought to be turned into TV ads and run nationally from now until election day.
There is a Tea Party-Repuglican outrage like this almost everyday -- enough material is not the problem.
But I saw somewhere today a Washington Post poll showing Democrats faring poorly thus far in 2014 -- even though most folks agree with Democrats on the issues.
So it is a matter of motivation.
Where is the DNC, the House and Senate campaign committees working to nationalize the 2014 elections as a rejection of Tea Party-Repuglican extremism?
Of course, if Pres. Obama approves the Keystone XL pipeline, one of the most dependable parts of the Democratic base will be discouraged from participating (like dropping the public option did to the base in 2010).
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Pres Obama is not on the ballot in November.
earthside
(6,960 posts)His name may not be there, but he is on the ballot.
And you and I may think Keystone is not a good reason to stay home, but there are plenty of doubts about Pres. Obama's commitment to fighting climate change, i.e., his advocacy of fracking, that the less partisan environmental voter will indeed wonder what the point is in voting if he approves Keystone XL.
Turning out the base is what it is all about in these congressional year elections -- Obama's leadership is what motivates many non-hack, base voters -- it is really that simple.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)of people blaming the President for everything that happens in the US but maintain it's beyond stupid to allow the pubs to get a bigger majority in the house and make it easier for them to take control of the senate by tying their vote to one issue. Beyond stupid.
earthside
(6,960 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)"Where is the DNC, the House and Senate campaign committees working to nationalize the 2014 elections as a rejection of Tea Party-Repuglican extremism? "
I mean, if they just spent 10 minutes a day they could put all this crap all over the nation and we would win in a landslide.
Where the hell are they?
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)She knows she is incapable of making rational choices that affect others, she just assumes it's somehow because of her gender - it isn't. She really is one of those diabolical, "double-minded" ?), untrustworthy, hateful people. Most women are not like that.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)there are still so many woman cannot shake off the supression and training endowed upon them by their overlords, and (generally) religion. THey have been told where their 'place' is and it's very uncomfortable for them to stray from that assigned role.
pretty pathetic, when people like me who have all daughters are trying hard to reinforce the 'no boundaries" meme when it comes to gender roles and equality.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)During the fight for the E.R.A. in the 1970's and 80's, our second-largest opponents were other women.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)My mom was born in 1916. She became an accountant, a civil rights worker in the 1960's - and could party like the devil himself (do NOT play poker with her, ever). I still miss her - she left us in 2005. Still mean as a rattlesnake.
She absolutely hated any crap that made her 2nd class, which is why I think she got so involved in civil rights.
RC
(25,592 posts)And that goes for anyone, of what ever gender. Stop pissing others off without an actual, just cause. Most people don't deserve it.
siligut
(12,272 posts)She toes the line or she is out.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I feel too tearful..
justhanginon
(3,289 posts)would engage with some of you ladies on DU, she would righteously get her you know what handed to her at somewhere around, oh I don't know, perhaps the speed of light!
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)sure doesn't mind the massive tax bill I pay every year. If she thinks I'm going to continue to pay it without the right to vote, she can stuff it. Although she does seem to be the perfect representative for a teabagger with a uterus. Wonder if she wouldn't mind starring in some campaign ads.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)perpetrate violent crimes against women and men.
3catwoman3
(23,970 posts)...I cannot understand this point of view. I was going to say that I cannot understand this kind of thinking, but there doesn't seem to be any actual thinking going on here.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)Then by Coulter's logic, John Boehner shouldn't be allowed to hold office.
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)Let's not kid ourselves. The only women she sees as "mean and hateful" are those who don't agree with her.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)MissMillie
(38,547 posts)(these women that think women shouldn't vote)
Be my guest ladies. Next time there's an election, YOU stay home.
louis-t
(23,288 posts)Republicans are.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)What a dipshit.
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)Kber
(5,043 posts)The women I hang with don't even remotely resemble her description.
But my mother raised me better, I guess. (Both to behave better and to expect better of others.)
Maybe we should just revoke voting rights for mean and vindictive people, regardless of gender? Although somehow i don't think that would work in the GOP's favor either.
Rex
(65,616 posts)"I do not see that in men."
YEP. We men don't have it in us to be diabolical.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)mixed with a good dose of projection.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 4, 2014, 05:12 PM - Edit history (1)
They don't think a woman should run for POTUS, don't think a woman should try and become something like an astronaut. Believe women should stay home and raise the kids. They were brainwashed into thinking this is a man's world and they are okay being second class citizens.
And no amount of talking to them about it will ever change the way they feel.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)have much regret about their own lives and lash out as a way of controlling their own anger,it's sad to see but it happens.
G_j
(40,366 posts)well that about says it all..
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raven mad
(4,940 posts)my poor head.........
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)Who hold most of the political power. I'm sure deep down, Putin is a helluva guy. And didn't the entire RW want have a beer with Bush? I'd mention Hitler but that would a bit much. Mao Se Tung, Pol Pot. Tons of fun with with shitheads
Think of it Putin and Palin can stare at each other through binoculars.
Deep13
(39,154 posts)Warpy
(111,237 posts)Gee, honey, you would know a lot more about that than I do. My friends are caring, funny women. I guess your church just doesn't appeal to anyone but the mean ones.
Ladies who hate women like this Lane broad need to shut the fuck up and get back into their kitchens and experience the world they want for the rest of us.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I really can't argue with that.
Why, I remember one time.......
arcane1
(38,613 posts)But only about this part:
"every person thats 18 and over and a legal citizen should be active in local politics so they can make a change locally"
Everything else she said was ignorant bullshit.
Cha
(297,123 posts)STUPID.
Token Republican
(242 posts)telling her to STFU and make me a sandwich be considered sexist, ironic or karma?