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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 06:40 PM Mar 2014

Wife of US Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., obtains protective injunction against him

Selected paragraphs from the story:


Lolita Grayson's petition for the injunction, dated Monday, says her husband pushed her against a door, causing her to fall to the ground, during a confrontation Saturday at their home on Oak Park Road, near Windermere.

The incident comes just less than two months after Lolita Grayson filed a divorce petition stating that their marriage of nearly 24 years was "irretrievably broken."

Photos filed by Lolita Grayson's attorneys with the petition show large bruises to her left leg and left shoulder.

Her complaint alleges that, "from time to time" in the past, her husband "has battered [her] and the parties' minor children," though she has not previously sought an injunction against him.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-alan-grayson-domestic-violence-wife-20140304,0,7338590.story

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Wife of US Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., obtains protective injunction against him (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 OP
great mom not to report it if her kids were being "battered" nt msongs Mar 2014 #1
and he is a piece of shit as a human being if he did that JI7 Mar 2014 #2
Many battered women do not report because they are afraid or ashamed. Mass Mar 2014 #11
that would explain not report his hitting her dsc Mar 2014 #35
Battered is the official legal word I believe mythology Mar 2014 #12
Plz don't blame the victim. It's wrong. chrisa Mar 2014 #57
So sad that women on du have to read crap like this. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #61
and. and throw that jab.... at the victims? yup. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #68
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #75
Lolita? NV Whino Mar 2014 #3
That's a pretty fucked up thing to say, rudolph the red Mar 2014 #39
whoa - that's pretty offensive DrDan Mar 2014 #40
Based on your opening, I would say that's probably for the best... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #41
Not saying any more is a great option. MineralMan Mar 2014 #45
No no, SAY it demwing Mar 2014 #49
2nd post. you men do not mess around taking down a victim when it serves you, do you seabeyond Mar 2014 #69
ah, shit... hlthe2b Mar 2014 #4
Hmmm 2naSalit Mar 2014 #5
How is he a "threat"? brooklynite Mar 2014 #21
Well now that you ask... Wilms Mar 2014 #28
Thanks for 2naSalit Mar 2014 #34
What are those amendments? former9thward Mar 2014 #53
sure. much more likely the victim is lying, she is a woman after all. 4th post and cannot help seabeyond Mar 2014 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author MindMover Mar 2014 #6
All such allegations need to be taken seriously BainsBane Mar 2014 #7
agree. riversedge Mar 2014 #14
yes.. I can't believe the excuses being made either OKNancy Mar 2014 #18
... Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #22
Absolutely. N/T TDale313 Mar 2014 #27
I agree. bravenak Mar 2014 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Skidmore Mar 2014 #48
Yep. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #37
Read my sig. Should explain. Seeking Serenity Mar 2014 #38
yikes. La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #8
A few answers here are perfect examples of sexism... Mass Mar 2014 #9
If true, What a POS Alan is (nt) bigwillq Mar 2014 #10
Wow that is shocking. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #13
The Rep has a witness--says he did not shove...... riversedge Mar 2014 #15
I read all of it, this is a wait and see for me, as to who is responsible or not...but I am shocked. Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #16
witness who works for Grayson JI7 Mar 2014 #17
another one already deciding on guilt leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #26
I had no witnesses whatever when my then wife assaulted me. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #59
so very sorry you had to go through that, Ikonoklast. Whisp Mar 2014 #67
I knew it was my wife's illness, and not my wife that was making her do those things. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #73
... Whisp Mar 2014 #74
According to the article, her attorney says she has visible bruises BainsBane Mar 2014 #20
"that doesn't excuse Grayson's harming her." wow he's convicted already. leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #25
Right, that's exactly what I said. BainsBane Mar 2014 #30
100% correct. HappyMe Mar 2014 #65
This is a sad situation for both parties and the truth is going to be difficult prove without kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #19
FUUUUUUU...can't be serious... alp227 Mar 2014 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #24
That's fucked up ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #31
I am not shocked. cali Mar 2014 #32
+1 dionysus Mar 2014 #36
I do as well. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #42
Seems to me he is a hot head in public. idendoit Mar 2014 #33
The absolute first thing we should do is rush to judgment. Orrex Mar 2014 #43
yes we have some on here who already seem to know whether he is guilty or not. These people must liberal_at_heart Mar 2014 #54
I agree. Orrex Mar 2014 #55
He's a man accused of abuse. He's guilty. Period. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #60
You raise an important and unfortunate point Orrex Mar 2014 #64
You pointed out that not all the facts are known on the matter. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #70
That's not good for his reelection bigdarryl Mar 2014 #44
Political positions are no indicator of personality. MineralMan Mar 2014 #46
True that. Look at Alec Baldwin. He's a reliable Dem but he can be hotheaded and homophobic and MADem Mar 2014 #77
So, according to a few on DU, Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #47
Agreed Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #50
I feel it too. bravenak Mar 2014 #76
+1 ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #52
Never trusted that Slithereen Whisp Mar 2014 #56
3 out of first 4 posts. bad mother for his violence. lolita/whore?. woman lying. seabeyond Mar 2014 #72
They have to take all of these HappyMe Mar 2014 #51
Orlando Sentinel article suggests an open Domestic Violence investigation. I will be interested to stevenleser Mar 2014 #58
While the guy is clearly a hot head.... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #62
progressivism is a bottom up movement. If we end up losing Grayson because these allegations yurbud Mar 2014 #63
I always thought he had anger management issues n/t doc03 Mar 2014 #66

Mass

(27,315 posts)
11. Many battered women do not report because they are afraid or ashamed.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:02 PM
Mar 2014

(and this happens to people that you would think perfect).

Not saying this is the case here, but your assumption that she is necessarily guilty is very wrong.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
35. that would explain not report his hitting her
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:42 PM
Mar 2014

but not the non reporting of him hitting the kids. If she didn't report that, I have a major problem with her conduct as well as his.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
12. Battered is the official legal word I believe
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:03 PM
Mar 2014

But there are lots of people who stay in abusive relationships longer than they should from an outsider's perspective. With or without kids involved. Abusers are very good at worming their way into their victim's head and finding what will convince them to stay.

Response to msongs (Reply #1)

 

rudolph the red

(666 posts)
39. That's a pretty fucked up thing to say,
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:03 AM
Mar 2014

are you implying that she must be a gold digger because of her name? I take it personally because my girlfriend is named Lolita.

2naSalit

(86,547 posts)
5. Hmmm
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 06:46 PM
Mar 2014

wonder what the real story is... meaning whether she's telling the truth or if this is a divorce ploy (I've seen some duzies in my day). Not making a judgement call here, just wondering. The media, in FL, might be eager to get some dirt on the Congressman since he's such a threat to the RWNJs.

Just sayin'

brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
21. How is he a "threat"?
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:27 PM
Mar 2014

He says something they don't like?

Other than making liberals feel good, has Grayson actually accomplished anything substantial?

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
28. Well now that you ask...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:02 PM
Mar 2014
Best known in his first term for making incendiary comments about Republicans, Grayson has focused on working with Republicans to pass amendments that "appeal to the libertarian streak in the GOP". He lobbies colleagues personally and in July 2013, David Weigel of Slate magazine called him "the most effective member of the House" and said that he was approaching "an unheralded title: The congressman who’s passed more amendments than any of his 434 peers".

It's called wikipedia. Pretty cool, huh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Grayson
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
71. sure. much more likely the victim is lying, she is a woman after all. 4th post and cannot help
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:59 AM
Mar 2014

but going after the victim.

first she failed as a mother for his violence.
then lolita? whore?
now the lyin' woman.

i am so not fuckin' surprised.

time to walk from this disgusting thread

at the very least, stand neutral.

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Response to bravenak (Reply #29)

riversedge

(70,190 posts)
15. The Rep has a witness--says he did not shove......
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:08 PM
Mar 2014



In the statement released by his office, Alan Grayson said his wife initiated the violence.

"Sadly, it was Ms. Grayson who physically attacked the Congressman as he attempted to visit with his children. He did not respond to Ms. Grayson's violent assault," the statement said.

It added that Lolita Grayson has become "increasingly erratic" since filing for divorce, and her husband "is deeply concerned by her recent behavior and is profoundly pained by her accusations."

Juan Lopez, the congressman's director of constituent services, told the Orlando Sentinel on Tuesday that he was present at the Grayson home Saturday and watched the incident from about 15 feet away.

Lopez said Alan Grayson never shoved or struck his wife: "Absolutely not .... It's just unfortunate that this is happening and that she would say something like this."....

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
59. I had no witnesses whatever when my then wife assaulted me.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:11 AM
Mar 2014

But I did have the scars to show for it.

She also has serious psychiatric issues, as alleged by Rep. Grayson about his wife.


No one believed that I was the victim of spousal abuse until I appealed the court to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent my children, who then interviewed them.

They, too, were being physically and emotionally abused by their mother.


A court order was issued the day after that interview for my ex to vacate the premises and have no contact with me or my children.

Only then. No one believed me that I could get struck by a woman and not respond in kind.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
73. I knew it was my wife's illness, and not my wife that was making her do those things.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:02 PM
Mar 2014

I battled for four years trying everything I knew, using every resource I could in order to get her the help she desperately needed, and was failed by every single institution.


In the end her mental illnesses won.

I had to abandon her in order to save my children and myself.



It has been 16 years since then, and not one day goes by when I am not tormented by guilt over it.

Not one.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
20. According to the article, her attorney says she has visible bruises
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:16 PM
Mar 2014

Even if she did initiate it, that doesn't excuse Grayson's harming her. He does not claim to be bruised.
Ultimately it's a matter for the police to investigate, but I see no reason why a Democratic representative would be any less likely to engage in this kind of behavior than a Republican.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
65. 100% correct.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:49 AM
Mar 2014

Being a Democrat doesn't automatically make a person wonderful and incapable of this kind of behavior.

I'm sure that the truth will come out after this is investigated.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
19. This is a sad situation for both parties and the truth is going to be difficult prove without
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:15 PM
Mar 2014

witnesses. I like Alan Grayson as fearless Dem. I cannot support a wife abuser tho, if this is true.

alp227

(32,018 posts)
23. FUUUUUUU...can't be serious...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:30 PM
Mar 2014

right wingers are gonna use this to bait voters into going R in 2014. UGH

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
32. I am not shocked.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:35 PM
Mar 2014

I keep quiet about Grayson because he's not worth getting in a fight over, imo, but I have a kind of gut dislike of him.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
54. yes we have some on here who already seem to know whether he is guilty or not. These people must
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:42 AM
Mar 2014

amazing abilities. I will wait to hear more and see if there is evidence either way.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
55. I agree.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:44 AM
Mar 2014

Usually I have no problem jumping in and shooting my mouth off, but in cases like these I've found it's almost always best to hold off a while.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
60. He's a man accused of abuse. He's guilty. Period.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:20 AM
Mar 2014

So many here are showing their biases.


I was the victim of spousal abuse.

I know from first hand experience that men are always assumed to be the aggressor and the abuser by law enforcement, health care professionals, and the legal system.


To those that take that side of the argument as the default setting, I say go fuck yourself, because you just might be dead fucking wrong.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
64. You raise an important and unfortunate point
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:43 AM
Mar 2014

Even here on DU we sometimes see a trivializing attitude toward men as victims of domestic abuse, if not outright denial of the phenomenon.

I am sorry to hear of your own experience, and I hope that my tone didn't come of as flippantly dismissive of the victims, male or female.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
70. You pointed out that not all the facts are known on the matter.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:56 AM
Mar 2014

And are keeping an open mind until more investigation reveals just where the truth lies.

You need not apologize to me for anything.




Those here calling for Rep. Grayson's head should be ashamed of themselves. They are being knee-jerk reactionaries of the worst kind.


I don't know what actually happened between the congressman and his wife, and neither does anyone here.

Yet they vote to condemn.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
46. Political positions are no indicator of personality.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:25 AM
Mar 2014

I'll withhold judgment on this, and wait to see what transpires.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
77. True that. Look at Alec Baldwin. He's a reliable Dem but he can be hotheaded and homophobic and
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:28 AM
Mar 2014

pretty damn dumb in his personal life. It gets him in trouble.

Big picture and close up don't always match.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
47. So, according to a few on DU,
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:28 AM
Mar 2014

she's a bad mother for not getting out sooner or she's making all this up to prop up her reasons to divorce him.

Couldn't POSSIBLY be because he might have actually done these things to her. And, even if he did, it's all her fault!

No, there's no misogyny on DU.

And now I am going to say something about Grayson that I've not said on DU before. There's something wrong with him. I had to develop good instincts about people at a very young age in order to survive and I'm telling you, there's something wrong there. I guarantee you all is not what it seems with this guy. Mark my words.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
52. +1
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:37 AM
Mar 2014

I "liked" Alan Grayson for awhile on FB, and then got a super "ick" feeling about him. Beginning with his support of SeaWorld.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
56. Never trusted that Slithereen
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:45 AM
Mar 2014

I hope none of the OP is true, tho.
The family must be going through hell and that is not good for anyone. I hope everyone gets the help that they need.

Sad day.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
72. 3 out of first 4 posts. bad mother for his violence. lolita/whore?. woman lying.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:01 PM
Mar 2014

walking out of the thread now, i see your post

yup

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
58. Orlando Sentinel article suggests an open Domestic Violence investigation. I will be interested to
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:52 AM
Mar 2014

see what the results are of that investigation.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
62. While the guy is clearly a hot head....
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:35 AM
Mar 2014

When 1%ers divorce it is often quite nasty. Seems that there is an investigation into the allegations and more will be known at some point. In stories like this I almost always support the woman initially, I admit that. Very few men have to live in fear for their lives because of their spouse. That is not the case for women.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
63. progressivism is a bottom up movement. If we end up losing Grayson because these allegations
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:40 AM
Mar 2014

turn out to be true, that will be a temporary set back at best.

The solution is for more of us to run for office and get into the mix in other ways.

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