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The ugliness of the GOP really is sickening...and yes, it is because they hate Obama, and they hate (Original Post) kelliekat44 Mar 2014 OP
That's pretty much what it all boils down to IMO. And, they love to hate ... blacks, Mexicans, RKP5637 Mar 2014 #1
Their hate goes beyond a black president Uben Mar 2014 #2
I'm not a religious person, but often I think of the republicans as disciples from hell. I also RKP5637 Mar 2014 #5
the rw does get its talking points from hell.. Cha Mar 2014 #14
They're like the embodiment of some kind of evil force, really. It's just become now RKP5637 Mar 2014 #39
And, that's how they were even in the bush-cheney regime.. they Cha Mar 2014 #60
I'm not religious either... Uben Mar 2014 #18
Quite true, they distort and interpret religion to suit their greedy and persecutory needs. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #40
Agreed. That's why I *really* question their Bible literacy and faith. The are Christian-ISTS. freshwest Mar 2014 #20
Years ago one could work with the old republican party and come up with balanced RKP5637 Mar 2014 #41
+1,000 freshwest Mar 2014 #45
They're afraid! atreides1 Mar 2014 #52
Quite true! These are dangerous times, I often wonder how many Americans really RKP5637 Mar 2014 #55
I'm not convince they hate him any more than DU hated Bush. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #3
False comparison. Dem leadership wasn't spewing the anti Bush shit Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #4
+1 Exactly n/t jaysunb Mar 2014 #10
Thank you, for explaining that to him, PW. We hated bush for a damn Cha Mar 2014 #17
Yup. The racism is verifiably alive and well in upstate. It's like taking a verbal trip back adirondacker Mar 2014 #27
+100 raven mad Mar 2014 #32
Apples and fucking oranges. Cha Mar 2014 #15
Go farther: Apples and orangutans JHB Mar 2014 #22
Exactly, JHB.. You'd think anyone on this board could clearly see that. Cha Mar 2014 #23
I agree, but they have to demonize him in lockstep hollysmom Mar 2014 #28
We hated Bush because of his actions, not his skin color. n/t Avalux Mar 2014 #34
YOU LIE!!! JoePhilly Mar 2014 #63
nail/head spanone Mar 2014 #6
Oh yes. shenmue Mar 2014 #7
No, it is because they lost all the reins of power they enjoyed under Bush. Hate speech Agnosticsherbet Mar 2014 #8
the GOP is RACIST! ----> napkinz Mar 2014 #9
Thanks napkinz.. wasn't the Kochs' daddy a john bircher? Oh excuse me.. Cha Mar 2014 #25
their father was a founding member of the John Birch Society AND napkinz Mar 2014 #38
That's weird.. you have thought they would have loved the bush coup. nt Cha Mar 2014 #61
speaking of the Koch brothers ... napkinz Mar 2014 #50
Because they're not the same, napkinz.. Cha Mar 2014 #64
thanks Cha ... I'll add those graphics to my collection :) napkinz Mar 2014 #66
And, it helps them immeasureably that they have the US corporatemedia Cha Mar 2014 #67
I wish you would post this as a separate thread. Rex Mar 2014 #65
they hate every Democrat Skittles Mar 2014 #11
they keep adding to the list ... napkinz Mar 2014 #42
+3,000,000 Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #12
I don't think it's JUST because he's black Glitterati Mar 2014 #13
They hate him because he's their opponent and they don't know any other way to oppose him. winter is coming Mar 2014 #16
You know..... Glitterati Mar 2014 #19
Well, when one of their long-running messages is "the government is your enemy", maybe it's not winter is coming Mar 2014 #21
I don't think it's that simple Glitterati Mar 2014 #24
It seems like a lot of Republicans consistently react to everything with fear and/or hate. winter is coming Mar 2014 #30
I agree.. Obama's a Dem.. so there's that and he's Cha Mar 2014 #26
Here's my problem with JUST making it about racism Glitterati Mar 2014 #29
Agreed. Cha Mar 2014 #31
Indeed. I remember when Clinton was in office. They were really civil to him The Straight Story Mar 2014 #33
For some reason when Bill Clinton said the "US was getting two presidents",it really pissed off a.. marble falls Mar 2014 #36
Its mostly racism. Its may be a more polite racism but it is bigotry and hate all the same. marble falls Mar 2014 #35
If God existed .. Republicans would not. YOHABLO Mar 2014 #37
Yes, they would. They would be "Satan's Lil Stumbling Blocks..." ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #43
Snort! Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2014 #49
Ha! ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #51
It wasn't Ron Silver. It was John DeLancie. Aristus Mar 2014 #56
You're Correct! Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2014 #58
I have the first four seasons (the Aaron Sorkin years) on DVD. Aristus Mar 2014 #59
Republicans hate... workinclasszero Mar 2014 #44
the GOP & Putin ... they share the hate napkinz Mar 2014 #46
where was the outrage when Bush was president and Russia went into Georgia ... napkinz Mar 2014 #47
Sarah Palin didn't question Bush's leadership when Putin sent forces into Georgia napkinz Mar 2014 #48
Obama is just one of their more recent excuses. Orsino Mar 2014 #53
let's talk weakness ... napkinz Mar 2014 #54
Aside from the Ukraine situation and their apparent Putin worship Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2014 #57
I agree! I am watching GOPers and Libertarians go crazy on FB! Rex Mar 2014 #62

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
1. That's pretty much what it all boils down to IMO. And, they love to hate ... blacks, Mexicans,
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:16 PM
Mar 2014

women, LGBT, science, progress, democracies, freedom, civil rights, other countries, nationalities ... you name it and they've got some serious hatred for it. I'm often dismayed the republican party continues as a political party in the US, as it indicates just how hateful many people are. No matter what one does, it seems, about 50% of the population has some serious hatred for you.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
2. Their hate goes beyond a black president
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:17 PM
Mar 2014

It's embedded in their soul. They'll claim to be Christians until that philosophy disagrees with their pocketbooks.
I truly see the republicans as narcissistic idiotic fools who feel one way and act another.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
5. I'm not a religious person, but often I think of the republicans as disciples from hell. I also
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:23 PM
Mar 2014

remember well from my early church days being told the devil comes in many forms with many disguises AKA republicans, IMO. In my church of years ago, the republicans of today are and have values of what we were taught as youth to avoid.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
39. They're like the embodiment of some kind of evil force, really. It's just become now
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:04 AM
Mar 2014

so pervasive with them, it's freaky. Just about everything they support, promote, push on people is about hatefulness, persecution and rolling over people. I often find it a bit scary that so many people still support the GOP. To me, the main intent of the GOP is to undermine and bring down the US.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
60. And, that's how they were even in the bush-cheney regime.. they
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 05:31 PM
Mar 2014

marauded blood and treasure. No building of infrastructure to make our country stronger.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
18. I'm not religious either...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:39 PM
Mar 2014

...but I know that almost all religions have a version of The Golden Rule in their beliefs.

Republicans only apply the Golden Rule when it is convenient....for them. Everyone else be damned.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
40. Quite true, they distort and interpret religion to suit their greedy and persecutory needs. n/t
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:06 AM
Mar 2014

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
20. Agreed. That's why I *really* question their Bible literacy and faith. The are Christian-ISTS.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:43 PM
Mar 2014

They're even trying to edit the Bible to eliminate 'liberal' ideas as they don't want any proof of how corrupt they are. Humility is the first thing they discard.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
41. Years ago one could work with the old republican party and come up with balanced
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:11 AM
Mar 2014

and workable solutions. Today, the republican party has morphed into some entity representing the hatefulness and evilness of the world, and the mouthpiece of destructive and seductive propaganda against humanity.

atreides1

(16,071 posts)
52. They're afraid!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:59 PM
Mar 2014

And they want complete control so they can mold this country in the delusional image that makes them feel warm and fuzzy...and they don't care if that results in creating second class citizens...Gays, minorities, religions not "Christian", for them it doesn't matter!

If they come to power they will do what every dictatorial regime has done throughout human history, first imprison, enslave, and then murder any who refuse to accept their place in a Republican mandated society!!!

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
55. Quite true! These are dangerous times, I often wonder how many Americans really
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:09 PM
Mar 2014

understand what is occurring.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
4. False comparison. Dem leadership wasn't spewing the anti Bush shit
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:22 PM
Mar 2014

With all of the venom these anti-American Republican piles of shit are.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
17. Thank you, for explaining that to him, PW. We hated bush for a damn
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:34 PM
Mar 2014

good reason. Anyone who sends soldiers off to a war based on lies is deserving of our hate. Mine anyway.

And, yes.. the Dems in leadership weren't calling bush a murdering asshole like we were or cheering for sadam.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
27. Yup. The racism is verifiably alive and well in upstate. It's like taking a verbal trip back
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:19 PM
Mar 2014

a half a decade or more around here.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
32. +100
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:39 PM
Mar 2014

"In the living years"........... hatred is hand and glove for the money bunch - it keeps everyone else distracted. Reagan institutionalized hatred (he didn't instigate it, but made sure with the "Christian" right, it was going to be there); the RW war machine pumped it up since then. I worked a temp job on a local US Army post. Every kid there (and they were KIDS, not adults) was subjected to RW Xtian ideology. And too uneducated - not stupid, no lack of intelligence - but basically uneducated to deal with it.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
22. Go farther: Apples and orangutans
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:52 PM
Mar 2014

The things liberals and the left despised about Bush were largely true -- and seen far in advance of self-proclaimed "Serious" people.

The things RWers despise about Obama are largely based on fantasy and bullshit. And one of our two national political parties caters to it.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
28. I agree, but they have to demonize him in lockstep
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:19 PM
Mar 2014

to get anyone to vote for them. If the people were not completely terrorized, why would they vote for them, They are phony baloney hypocrites, lying through their teeth to demonize all liberals and Obama in particular.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
34. We hated Bush because of his actions, not his skin color. n/t
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:43 PM
Mar 2014

They are destroying this country and its people because of their hate.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
63. YOU LIE!!!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 05:37 PM
Mar 2014

Well, that was easy.

This isn't about how DU felt about Bush, its about how the GOP, in total, has dealt with President Obama.

And with just those two words, everyone should know the truth.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
8. No, it is because they lost all the reins of power they enjoyed under Bush. Hate speech
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:32 PM
Mar 2014

is just the tool they use to push their ignorant base to put them in power again so they can fix that little problem with not having enough voters.

It isn't hate, it is power. Who has it. Who controls it. Who wants it.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
38. their father was a founding member of the John Birch Society AND
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 05:40 AM
Mar 2014

the sons are founding members of the Tea Party ... in 2002! (The Tea Party is not 5 years old.)

The Tea Party sprung up spontaneously in 2009, so the Tea Party tells itself. But its truth is much older, as the screenshot above shows us. Found in 2002, by the lobbying group, Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE), the US Tea Party was the first attempt to start a “grassroots movement” against the US Government, as you can see through Archive.org’s WayBackMachine here. But who was backing the Tea Party back in 2002? Would you believe Big Tobacco and the Koch Brothers?

read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/12/koch-brothers-founded-the-tea-party-in-2002/




Cha

(297,123 posts)
67. And, it helps them immeasureably that they have the US corporatemedia
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:10 PM
Mar 2014

pimping for them.

Too bad for them.. the Dems have Social Media and the INternet.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
65. I wish you would post this as a separate thread.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 05:59 PM
Mar 2014

The GOP is a shameful party full of bigoted, self-righteous, self centered, ignorant people that HATE HATE HATE Obama!

Skittles

(153,142 posts)
11. they hate every Democrat
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:20 PM
Mar 2014

but yes, they reserve more of their irrational hatred for women and minorities

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
13. I don't think it's JUST because he's black
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:24 PM
Mar 2014

It's because:
1. He's a black Democrat
2. He is everything they pretend to be starting with the basic fact that he's a gentleman and a scholar
3. He's a black Democrat
4. He blocks their every move before they even THINK of the move
5. He's a black Democrat

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
16. They hate him because he's their opponent and they don't know any other way to oppose him.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:32 PM
Mar 2014

When you can't use rational discourse (or don't know how to), smears and emotional manipulation are all you've got.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
19. You know.....
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:42 PM
Mar 2014

I really can't understand their thought processes.

I live in a county that votes 90% Republican. We don't even HAVE a Dem party in this county.

Yet, within months of an election, the hate they put out on all their local pages looks exactly like the garbage we see every day about Obama or any Democrat. Against the very people THEY elected.

Look at this example of what I'm talking about, but remember these people are ALL Republicans who voted for these Republicans. There wasn't even a Democrat on any ticket in the county. Qualifying is underway this week and there won't be a Democrat on any ballot in the county; and there hasn't been one on the ballot in GENERATIONS - the Mayor of the city has been in office 47 years. With that in mind, take a gander at this local county facebook page (if you can stand the outright hate and nastiness):

https://www.facebook.com/groups/FocusonForsyth

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
21. Well, when one of their long-running messages is "the government is your enemy", maybe it's not
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:50 PM
Mar 2014

so surprising that they hate even the people they vote for. Or perhaps they get angry because their candidates don't set things to rights in the way they expect.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
24. I don't think it's that simple
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:56 PM
Mar 2014

These people HAVE the government they asked for.

Yet, they still hate everything that government does or doesn't do......absolutely NOTHING makes them happy. The heck with "happiness," nothing makes them spit less venom, not even the exact thing they voted for.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
30. It seems like a lot of Republicans consistently react to everything with fear and/or hate.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:30 PM
Mar 2014

I guess that's true of their representatives, too.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
26. I agree.. Obama's a Dem.. so there's that and he's
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:10 PM
Mar 2014

Black so that outs those with moronic bigoted, racist mentality.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
29. Here's my problem with JUST making it about racism
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:28 PM
Mar 2014

While that's an honest issue, and very valid, making it JUST about racism lets them off the hook for their hatred.

Not just their hatred for Obama, but their hatred for the poor, their hatred for the 'least of us' and their constant, unrelenting desire to crush those people.

When we make it JUST about racism, we let them off the hook for all the rest.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
33. Indeed. I remember when Clinton was in office. They were really civil to him
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 09:40 PM
Mar 2014

And they hate Hillary too - because she is a woman.

marble falls

(57,067 posts)
36. For some reason when Bill Clinton said the "US was getting two presidents",it really pissed off a..
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 10:15 PM
Mar 2014

lot of people. I think her embracing health care reform made the reaction against it even stronger. Bill Clinton had a lot of hostility towards him in his second term. They say Reagan was a bi-partisan President. Bill Clinton was a bi-partisan President. If Teapublicans, Republicans had worked with President Obama we'd have had a Bill Clinton economy.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
43. Yes, they would. They would be "Satan's Lil Stumbling Blocks..."
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:35 AM
Mar 2014

as my neighbor used to call bad people/behavior/things she didn't like to think about.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
49. Snort!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 01:54 PM
Mar 2014

"Satan's Little Stumbling Blocks" LOL!

There was an episode of "The West Wing" where a political consultant (played by the late Ron Silver) was proposing that the President come out in support of a flag-burning law that had been proposed in Congress. Toby, as you can imagine, was utterly opposed to going along, even if it was good politics.

Consultant: You think I'm the devil, don't you?
Toby: No. I think you're the guy the devil sends to the convenience store to buy cigarettes.

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
56. It wasn't Ron Silver. It was John DeLancie.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:24 PM
Mar 2014

That episode took place in the first season. Ron Silver, as Bruno Gianelli, showed up as Bartlet's re-election campaign manager, in the third season. Gianelli, although a hard-hitting political pragmatist, was also reliably progressive, and despised the trend of Democrats turning right in order to win elections. A sentiment not shared by the once-staunchly Democratic Ron Silver. He did a hard lurch to the right after September 11th, and never came back from that before he died. Shame. He was a terrific actor.

John Delancie was playing a DLC advisor trying to drag Bartlet to the right in support of a flag-burning amendment. That's when the confrontation you mentioned happened.

Sorry. I just had to weigh in. I'm a walking West Wing wiki.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
58. You're Correct!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:44 PM
Mar 2014

He was working with Joey Lucas. That's why my Googling to get the quote right was unsuccessful.

I'm totally impressed and in awe of your memory.

And the correct quote is as follows:

Toby: I just figured out who you were.
Al: He's going to say Satan.
Toby: No. You're the guy that runs into 7-Eleven to get Satan a pack of cigarettes.


Aristus

(66,310 posts)
59. I have the first four seasons (the Aaron Sorkin years) on DVD.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:15 PM
Mar 2014

And I watch them all the way through at least twice a year.

No so with seasons 5-7. I've only seen any of those episodes one time each. I only have the vaguest recollection of what happens in the series after season 4.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
44. Republicans hate...
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 10:56 AM
Mar 2014

1. Non rich..the 99%
2. Workers..only here to be mercilessly exploited into an early grave
3. Minority groups..you name em they hate em.
4. Females..not under the boot of Reich wing/religious right male overseers
5. Truth..Fox "news", Hate radio etc
6. Reality..see 5
7. Science...tryin like hell to drag the world back to the stone ages
8. Progress..in just about anything you can think of
9. Unions..see 1 and 2
10. Peace..the MIC is not amused
11. The middle class..may it rest in peace
12. Jesus..even though they claim to be his followers they are opposed to what he taught about 100% of the time
13. Healthcare..its only for the rich
14. Social Security..be rich or die in a ditch Grandma! Book one, chapter one, The gospel of Ayn Rand

I'm sure I could add more but...FU teabag republicans!

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
47. where was the outrage when Bush was president and Russia went into Georgia ...
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 01:44 PM
Mar 2014
Media, GOP forget Bush's feeble response to Russia-Georgia conflict





Jon Perr
March 3, 2014

Proving once again that politics no longer ends at the water's edge, Republican leaders and many in the media have been lambasting President Obama's response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. While the Washington Post editorial board charged that Obama's foreign policy is "based on fantasy," Senator John McCain and his Mini-Me Lindsey Graham (R-SC) called President Obama "feckless" and "weak and indecisive," an approach which "invites aggression."

Predictably, the memories of the administration's critics are short. After all, President Bush didn't roll back the Russian occupation of South Ossetia and Abkhazia after Vladimir Putin's battering of Georgia in August 2008. Bush didn't lead an alliance of the willing to isolate Russia, undermine its economy, mine the Black Sea, provide defense guarantees and rush American military supplies to Tblisi. Instead, Dubya simply denounced Moscow's reaction using much the same language President Obama is deploying now.


read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/03/1281857/-Media-GOP-forget-Bush-s-feeble-response-to-Russia-Georgia-conflict#




napkinz

(17,199 posts)
48. Sarah Palin didn't question Bush's leadership when Putin sent forces into Georgia
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 01:47 PM
Mar 2014
Palin: Obama wears ‘mom jeans’ while Putin wrestles bears and drills for oil






by Travis Gettys
March 4, 2014

Palin also expressed her admiration for the Russian leader and the masculine self-image he projects in comparison to President Barack Obama.

“Obama, the perception of him and his ‘potency’ across the world is one of such weakness,” she said. “Lookit: People are looking at Putin as one who wrestles bears and drills for oil, they look at our president as one who wears mom jeans and equivocates and bloviates. We are not exercising that peace through strength that only can be brought to you courtesy of that red, white, and blue that only the strength of the United States military can do.”

She encouraged the U.S. president to take some sort of symbolic action against Putin.

“Obama instead has chosen to adopt this M.O. of ‘lead from behind,’ whatever the heck that means, I mean, because the rest of the world, looking for that shining city on a hill, looking for that country in which – that they can emulate – they’re not seeing that anymore, or in America because Obama’s weak leadership, leading from behind, which makes absolutely no sense,” Palin said.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/04/palin-obama-wears-mom-jeans-while-putin-wrestles-bears-and-drills-for-oil/














Orsino

(37,428 posts)
53. Obama is just one of their more recent excuses.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:00 PM
Mar 2014

They would be stonewalling any other Democratic president to precisely the same extent (though their excuses might need to be a touch more imaginative).

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
57. Aside from the Ukraine situation and their apparent Putin worship
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 03:31 PM
Mar 2014

their level of ferocity towards repealing/undermining/sabotaging ACA in Congress and throughout red states is what really upsets and sickens me. It's one thing to me for them to disagree with it and want to change it more to their liking (though they clearly have a dearth of ideas about how to do it differently) but the way that they are taking all kinds of steps/measures to prevent people from accessing it (i.e. harassing Navigators, refusing Medicaid expansion). They can't just accept that ACA is established law and sanctioned by SCOTUS and learn how to live with it (or just be miserable with it), which is fine, but they shouldn't be allowed to deprive other people of their right to access available services/opportunities if they want to.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
62. I agree! I am watching GOPers and Libertarians go crazy on FB!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 05:36 PM
Mar 2014

They LOVE them some DICTATOR PUTIN! All because of the POTUSes skin color!!!

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