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dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:39 PM Mar 2014

RT Anchor Who Condemned Russian Invasion Is Also a 9/11 Truther

Abby Martin became something of an internet folk hero Monday after she publicly condemned Vladimir Putin’s military intervention into Ukraine on her Kremlin-backed, English-language RT program Breaking the Set. Declaring her “editorial independence” from the Russian regime, she said into the camera: “What Russia did is wrong.”

As it turns out, Martin is also an avid 9/11 Truther conspiracy theorist. The New York Times’ Robert Mackey outed Martin on The Lede blog Tuesday afternoon, revealing her role in the “9/11 Truth movement, whose members hold that the official history of the terrorist attacks is a cover for a concealed government conspiracy.”

In his post, Mackey includes the below video of Martin discussing her views while marching in a 9/11 Truth demonstration in Santa Monica, California on October 11, 2008. “I’ve researched it for three years and every single thing that I uncover solidifies my belief that it was an inside job and that our government was complicit in what happened.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rt-anchor-who-condemned-russian-invasion-is-also-a-911-truther/

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RT Anchor Who Condemned Russian Invasion Is Also a 9/11 Truther (Original Post) dlwickham Mar 2014 OP
How dare you malign her character by pointing out Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #1
it's a plot dlwickham Mar 2014 #2
bahahhaha!! make note of the names on this thread that have no problem with 9/11 CT's. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #24
Shooting the messenger ? dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #3
Any 9/11 truther is worth taking with a grain of salt. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #4
try an entire ocean's worth dlwickham Mar 2014 #5
Well, I guess that means the invasion was hunky dory. Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #6
That's how some try to shoot the messenger. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #7
It's also an attempt to legitimize the official line. Fawke Em Mar 2014 #12
Nope. It means a stopped clock is "correct" 2x/da but not otherwise. UTUSN Mar 2014 #11
A lot of Russians are 9/11 truthers. EmilyAnne Mar 2014 #8
so are alot of americans n/t boomer55 Mar 2014 #28
RT hired her. If you know she's a truther, maybe they do too and don't care. pampango Mar 2014 #9
They may lose viewers if they lose her. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #13
What a conundrum! 1000words Mar 2014 #10
there should be certain things that get you ruled out or thrown under bus Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #23
So am I whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #14
So? I wonder if the official fucking bush-cheney regime's story about Cha Mar 2014 #15
What does her views on the 9-11 "truth" movement have anything to do with the correctness cpwm17 Mar 2014 #16
In that case my estimation of her opinions has just grown. canoeist52 Mar 2014 #17
not all aspects of 9/11 Truth are equal: Bush classified role of Saudi gov't yurbud Mar 2014 #18
everyone knows that 9/11 went down exactly as the bush admin has portrayed it frylock Mar 2014 #19
And the people that believe the bu$h administration version of 9/11 are the real definition of the RC Mar 2014 #29
Which proves what? Downtown Hound Mar 2014 #20
The guy who went off on RT's air a while back about Putin's attacks on LGBT people Sugarcoated Mar 2014 #21
Mulderrrrrrrrr!!!!11111!! dionysus Mar 2014 #22
Cue eerie music..... FSogol Mar 2014 #27
Kick... Sugarcoated Mar 2014 #25
I hear she probably dated a Russian pole dancer, too Newsjock Mar 2014 #26

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
12. It's also an attempt to legitimize the official line.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:00 PM
Mar 2014

I believe there were planes and buildings feel, but I'd have to be stupid to believe every last work the Bush Administration said about 9/11. One can seek the truth without being a nut.

UTUSN

(70,497 posts)
11. Nope. It means a stopped clock is "correct" 2x/da but not otherwise.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:59 PM
Mar 2014

HITLER loved dogs and LIMBSOsevic loves Xmas but neither are good for anything.

EmilyAnne

(2,769 posts)
8. A lot of Russians are 9/11 truthers.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:54 PM
Mar 2014

It was a constant topic of discussion when I lived there.
What's your point?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
9. RT hired her. If you know she's a truther, maybe they do too and don't care.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:55 PM
Mar 2014

Since she now says she is not accepting RT's "offer" of an "educational" trip to Crimea, it will be interesting to see her future at RT.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
13. They may lose viewers if they lose her.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:03 PM
Mar 2014

She's extremely popular. I doubt RT will make the mistake of dumping her.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
10. What a conundrum!
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:58 PM
Mar 2014

Is she still a "hero" for speaking out, or just another "nutter" who gets thrown under the bus?

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
23. there should be certain things that get you ruled out or thrown under bus
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:21 AM
Mar 2014

one would be a belief that Martians are about to attack. Another one would be that there is a giant conspiracy in which the U.S. government was responsible for 9/11 attacks instead of the al queda terrorists.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
16. What does her views on the 9-11 "truth" movement have anything to do with the correctness
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:17 PM
Mar 2014

of her anti-war views concerning Russia? We're not taking her viewpoint as an authority on the Russian aggression. We're just praising her bravery on speaking out against Russia. She deserves the praise.

There are numerous war-mongers that are against the "truth" movement. Does that call into question their ant-"truther" views? War-mongers are much worse than "truthers", by orders of magnitude.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
18. not all aspects of 9/11 Truth are equal: Bush classified role of Saudi gov't
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:26 PM
Mar 2014

in the Joint Congressional Inquiry into 9/11, and 9/11 Commission staffers went on record saying they were told to change their findings on that topic as well.

Since our war in Afghanistan was based on 9/11, it would have been nice to know if there was a more appropriate country to blame, like the one that funded and shepherded the attackers according to other declassified documents.

We we attacked by an ally and our government did nothing. Someone should be able to ask why without being called a mental patient.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
29. And the people that believe the bu$h administration version of 9/11 are the real definition of the
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:45 PM
Mar 2014
Truthers truth.
Not the people that have a problem with the obvious lies of the bu$h administration in the run up to the Iraq invasion, in which 9/11 was the starting bell. The planing for both came well before, and they are connected behind the scenes.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
20. Which proves what?
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:54 PM
Mar 2014

That there are intelligent, sane, courageous, good people out there who aren't crazy and have, through intelligent analysis, come to the conclusion that the events of 9-11 just don't add up to what our government says actually happened?

Nah, that couldn't be it. She must be a freak. Like all those other people out there who don't swallow everything the impeccably honest Bush administration and United States government tells them. It's not like the Bush administration lied us into a war or anything.

Sugarcoated

(7,707 posts)
21. The guy who went off on RT's air a while back about Putin's attacks on LGBT people
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:17 AM
Mar 2014

James Kirchick, was on Lawrence O'Donnell's show tonight, and he said the same about her, including calling her stand a "managed" dissent, she speaks her 60 seconds of "dissent" but that doesn't counter what she does everyday on her show, which is spout Kremlin propaganda. He called her a lunatic, a conspiracy theorist, a 9-11 truther, a believer that water fluoridation is a government conspiracy, compared Israel to Nazi Germany. He went on to say that now RT will be able to use the moment of 'pseudo dissent', and say, 'Look, we're a legitimate news network, we have differing points of view, and that's really not the case for anyone who watches RT.

Also had on Miriam Elder, foreign correspondent of Buzzfeed, lived in Russia for seven years. She backed him up in the managed dissent analysis of Kirchick. She also added that Russia doesn't actually see Russia Today. It's for American viewing, and the brave stand this journalist took isn't what it looks like. She used the example of Jared Leto's Oscar speech that Russia censored when it aired there.

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