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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUkraine crisis: CIA, not Pentagon, forecast Russian move -sources
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/03/06/ukraine-crisis-intelligence-idINDEEA2500J20140306(Reuters) - Until recently, collecting intelligence on Ukraine was a low priority for U.S. spy agencies, and as a result their reporting on recent developments was patchy, several current and former U.S. security officials said this week.
The Central Intelligence Agency says it was following events closely enough to have outlined scenarios in which upheaval in Ukraine would become so intense that Russia would take military action.
Two national security sources said the CIA had specifically warned policymakers, shortly before the Russian military moved into the Crimean peninsula, that such a move could be imminent.
The Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency, however, predicted such a move was unlikely, said the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.
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Ukraine crisis: CIA, not Pentagon, forecast Russian move -sources (Original Post)
steve2470
Mar 2014
OP
If you are shaping reality on the ground with NED, State Department and USAID, it's easy to predict
jakeXT
Mar 2014
#2
In the end, though, Brennan and Rice and Hagel would surely talk to each other
TwilightGardener
Mar 2014
#3
Did you see Rachel's piece last night on the CIA? It referred to all the things the CIA has missed
okaawhatever
Mar 2014
#4
I don't know, good point, I think we'll hear more soon that will help us decide. n t
okaawhatever
Mar 2014
#6
The problem is that we have too few Snowdens to let us know what's going in our government.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#8
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)1. Interesting...
from the article:
Even if the United States had had perfect knowledge of Russia's plans, it is unclear what it could have done to forestall President Vladimir Putin's actions, given its limited military assets in the region and lack of desire for conflict with Russia.
Something ain't right about the info in the article, anonymous sources don't help much but, it reads like two intelligence agencies and a few agents with axes to grind are battling. I don't know, just my opinion.
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)2. If you are shaping reality on the ground with NED, State Department and USAID, it's easy to predict
things.
Something had to be done. What was done was not to stop doing these awful things. Of course not. What was done was to shift many of these awful things to a new organization, with a nice sounding name-the National Endowment for Democracy. The idea was that the NED would do somewhat overtly what the CIA had been doing covertly for decades, and thus, hopefully, eliminate the stigma associated with CIA covert activities.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/National%20EndowmentDemo.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/National%20EndowmentDemo.html
The Pentagon sends two ships because of "Sochi security" and one of them even runs aground.
US Navy Ship on Olympics Duty Ran Aground
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/02/us-navy-ship-on-olympics-duty-ran-aground/
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/02/us-navy-ship-on-olympics-duty-ran-aground/
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)3. In the end, though, Brennan and Rice and Hagel would surely talk to each other
and advise the President accordingly. And I would bet the military knew what was up, they always do--even if Congress didn't. Why leak this, though? Someone has an agenda.
okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)4. Did you see Rachel's piece last night on the CIA? It referred to all the things the CIA has missed
in history. The falling of the Berlin Wall, the Arab Spring, Breakup of the Soviet Union, etc. It was titled "If only we had an agency to predict these things".
I don't know if that could be the reason, it also could be someone throwing the Presidency and/or the Pentagon under the bus.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)5. I think there's a turf war, probably for $$ too. The drone program
is supposed to move out of the CIA and into the Pentagon, eventually, but Dianne Feinstein (coincidence!) doesn't want that to happen because she says the CIA is more accurate. John McCain is one who wants it at the Pentagon. Wonder if this is related?
okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)6. I don't know, good point, I think we'll hear more soon that will help us decide. n t
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)8. The problem is that we have too few Snowdens to let us know what's going in our government.
Whenever the people are well informed, they can be trusted with their own government; that whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights.
Thomas Jefferson
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