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deminks

(11,006 posts)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:42 PM Mar 2014

Paul Ryan: Free School Lunch Means Poor Parents Don't Care About Kids

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) said Thursday that liberals don't understand disadvantaged students would rather have parents who care for them than a free lunch at school.

Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference, Ryan said Republicans offer their constituents "ideas" while Democrats offer a "full stomach and an empty soul."

He then told an anecdote he said was relayed to him by Eloise Anderson, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's (R) Department of Children and Families secretary.

(snip)

"He told Eloise he didn’t want a free lunch. He wanted his own lunch, one in a brown-paper bag just like the other kids," he continued. "He wanted one, he said, because he knew a kid with a brown-paper bag had someone who cared for him. This is what the left does not understand."

(end snip)


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul_ryan_free_lunch_means_parents_dont_care_for_kids

How's that reaching out to poor people thingy going for ya?

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Paul Ryan: Free School Lunch Means Poor Parents Don't Care About Kids (Original Post) deminks Mar 2014 OP
DELETE - I did not read this to the end. Mass Mar 2014 #1
you are not involved in education I take it..... chillfactor Mar 2014 #7
All I know is my kids never wanted to have school lunch. Mass Mar 2014 #10
I never wanted to bring my lunch. Doremus Mar 2014 #29
Do they think people choose to be poor? upaloopa Mar 2014 #2
Yes they do! atreides1 Mar 2014 #6
I thing the rank and file do but Ryan doesn't. upaloopa Mar 2014 #9
Right wing just world hypothesis ck4829 Mar 2014 #13
There are just NO depths to which this fucker will not sink, are there? Wow. n/t TygrBright Mar 2014 #3
...and therefore, no depths to which his district's voters will not sink. FiveGoodMen Mar 2014 #26
Ahhhh... so sad 1awake Mar 2014 #4
So, we just give them "no food". Or put it in a bag? Or put it in an empty bag? SharonAnn Mar 2014 #5
Says a career grifter who has been on the taxpayer payroll all his adult life jsr Mar 2014 #8
Bingo. nt nyquil_man Mar 2014 #18
Strong Language Alert!!! gelsdorf Mar 2014 #11
isn't it a wonderfu; world when republicans can make up stories to prove their lies, n/t hollysmom Mar 2014 #12
My niece is in a free lunch program vankuria Mar 2014 #14
he's a heartless fuck. what a shit story paulie. spanone Mar 2014 #15
This is really... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #16
It seems to me that if Ryan is a devout Christian he would be under the commands CTyankee Mar 2014 #17
Don't tell me, let me guess, Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #19
The left understands that eating lunch is more important than whether or not it comes in a bag. n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #20
Well - we could increase food stamp programs so parents could better afford to pack that brown bag Kber Mar 2014 #21
Reality is kids want a parent who cares for them AND lunch, however lunch arrives riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #22
Following Ryan's own "logic", wouldn't that mean ... surrealAmerican Mar 2014 #23
Scumbag. You don't deserve shit... npk Mar 2014 #24
'Little Sally wanted a Gucci lunch box, because a kid with a Gucci lunch box Marr Mar 2014 #25
Time to close the Senate/House cafeterias - let them brown bag it. kiranon Mar 2014 #27
Just SMH, because even an 8 yr old gets it and the selfish asswad known as Paul Ryan doesn't notadmblnd Mar 2014 #28
Shame, Paul Ryan! Shame! But then, you have no shame. Brigid Mar 2014 #30
Can't anyone shut this idiot up? louis-t Mar 2014 #31
How about raising the minimum wage then Ryan? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #32
WOW. His sheer stupidity and ignorance makes me hope he is their pony in 2016! Rex Mar 2014 #33
I smell another Cadillac driving welfare queen here jmowreader Mar 2014 #34
Yep. I used to volunteer as a lunch room monitor when my middle schooler was in grade school. winter is coming Mar 2014 #35
he knows the not hungry kid has someone in congress who cared for him Johonny Mar 2014 #36

Mass

(27,315 posts)
1. DELETE - I did not read this to the end.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:45 PM
Mar 2014

The initial reaction seems normal, but, if the rest is so sad. Shame on Ryan for this.

chillfactor

(7,566 posts)
7. you are not involved in education I take it.....
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:50 PM
Mar 2014

kids do not "stand out"....I see many kids in the lunch lines......and no one knows who are the rich kids and who are the poor kids....of course in my state children are not humiliated by kitchen workers throwing out a child's lunch into the garbage...our kids are fed

Mass

(27,315 posts)
10. All I know is my kids never wanted to have school lunch.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:56 PM
Mar 2014

Aside from being very bad, their friends brought lunch and they wanted the same thing. So, the fact the kid may not have wanted a lunch from the school (particularly if too young to have a clear idea) is not surprising to me.

This said, I had not read the end. The fact that a young kid may think his parents do not love him is certainly disturbing, and the fact that Ryan uses that as an example is even worse.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
29. I never wanted to bring my lunch.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:34 PM
Mar 2014

Buying the cafeteria lunch was the cool thing. Only nerds and unpopular kids carried brown bags and lunch boxes, or so I thought as a grade schooler in the '60s.

My kids never really cared either way.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. Do they think people choose to be poor?
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:45 PM
Mar 2014

People care that's why there are free lunches. Wing nuts don't care that's why they want to end free lunches.

atreides1

(16,046 posts)
6. Yes they do!
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:50 PM
Mar 2014

Reagan thought so...why wouldn't the current Republicans who worship St. Ronnie think the same thing?

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
9. I thing the rank and file do but Ryan doesn't.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:54 PM
Mar 2014

He just doesn't care and his lies are a means to hold on to power.

ck4829

(34,974 posts)
13. Right wing just world hypothesis
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:04 PM
Mar 2014

"If you're not rich, it's only because you're not working hard enough!"

1awake

(1,494 posts)
4. Ahhhh... so sad
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:46 PM
Mar 2014
"He told Eloise he didn’t want a free lunch. He wanted his own lunch, one in a brown-paper bag just like the other kids," he continued. "He wanted one, he said, because he knew a kid with a brown-paper bag had someone who cared for him. This is what the left does not understand."


That and $2.00 will feed the kid. Cute stories won't so either fund free lunch programs, or raise minimum wage so people can afford to live at the bare minimum. Stupid fucking out of touch Republicans....

SharonAnn

(13,766 posts)
5. So, we just give them "no food". Or put it in a bag? Or put it in an empty bag?
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:46 PM
Mar 2014

Last edited Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Typical GOP "apples and oranges" comparison.

Of course the child wants someone to care for him/her. Does that mean we can't feed them in the meantime?

And some children do have someone who cares for them and would send something in a brown bag if they had a brown bag and could afford to fill it. So we should make sure they have a brown bag, even if it's empty, instead of feeding them?


gelsdorf

(240 posts)
11. Strong Language Alert!!!
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:58 PM
Mar 2014

Fuck all those mothercockfuckingsuckers to hell and back.
That feels better now that I got that out !!

vankuria

(901 posts)
14. My niece is in a free lunch program
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:04 PM
Mar 2014

And her mom is a single parent, who works. The free lunch program has many advantages, parents can save $ and time by not having to pack a lunch as well as kids getting a nutritious meal that isn't packed with sodium and fat.

I seriously doubt she or her classmates ever felt deprived because there moms didn't pack a "brown bag". This story is a lot of hooey and I wouldn't believe anything Paul Ryan or what any other neoncon at that stupid convention says.

By using this sick, manufactured example to make their point, they show the depths they'll sink to and they are sick bastards.

God help us all.

CTyankee

(63,768 posts)
17. It seems to me that if Ryan is a devout Christian he would be under the commands
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:33 PM
Mar 2014

of Jesus to feed the poor, comfort the suffering, heal the sick, shelter the homeless and in general respond with practical compassion to the needs of others less fortunate. And, in addition to the practical help, to fight to end unjust systems that perpetuate human poverty and misery.

Did he miss that memo in his catechism class?

Kber

(5,043 posts)
21. Well - we could increase food stamp programs so parents could better afford to pack that brown bag
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:47 PM
Mar 2014

but unless you think it better to let kids go hungry (and I'm sure he doesn't really think that, right?) than you can't cut the free lunch program and cut food stamps.

Unless you are insanely cruel, don't actually care about kids, or both, that is.

Sheesh!

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
22. Reality is kids want a parent who cares for them AND lunch, however lunch arrives
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:51 PM
Mar 2014

Its not an either/or statement.

Plenty of kids both rich and poor both brown bag it and get cafeteria food. As a regular volunteer at 3 different schools, I can tell you there's no "shame" attached to only eating cafeteria food. Some kids actually prefer it (I know several personally) even though their parents can well afford to send them to school with lunch.

My sister told her kids they had to start packing their own lunches in 6th grade, that she would ensure they had all the "fixings" but it was time for them to start preparing their own or they could get the school lunch. Guess what? They BOTH stopped brown-bagging it and got school lunches from then on, every single day.

Ryan's an asshat and creating a fictional situation that's completely detached from reality.

surrealAmerican

(11,339 posts)
23. Following Ryan's own "logic", wouldn't that mean ...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:54 PM
Mar 2014

... that if we (as a nation) fail to provide either a living wage for the child's parents (so that they can afford to make him a bag lunch), or at the very least a school lunch, that child has a whole country that "doesn't care for him" - is that the message he want to send to needy schoolchildren?

npk

(3,660 posts)
24. Scumbag. You don't deserve shit...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:55 PM
Mar 2014

Unless you're eating it every meal of the day.

Just unbelievable the level these idiots just don't get it.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
25. 'Little Sally wanted a Gucci lunch box, because a kid with a Gucci lunch box
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:14 PM
Mar 2014

has someone who cares for them.'

There's no moral difference between Ryan's remarks and the one above-- it's just a matter of tax bracket.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
27. Time to close the Senate/House cafeterias - let them brown bag it.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:21 PM
Mar 2014

What idiotic remarks. Children can't eat ideas. They need food to grow and to learn in school. Don't understand Ryan who does not believe in abortion/birth control but wants to hurt children after they are born. Sadistic? Likes punishing children for their parents failings/troubles? Social Darwinism? What a mean little soulless man he is. I guess he didn't get a brown bag lunch when he was a kid or hated school lunches and is taking his revenge out on today's children.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
28. Just SMH, because even an 8 yr old gets it and the selfish asswad known as Paul Ryan doesn't
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:21 PM
Mar 2014

8-Year-Old Michigan Boy Helping Classmates Get a Hot Lunch
http://www.modvive.com/2014/03/05/8-year-old-michigan-boy-helping-classmates-get-hot-lunch/

When a fellow student at Challenger Elementary School received a sandwich instead of a hot meal because he didn’t have enough money remaining on his school lunch account, 8-year-old Cayden Taipalus a third grader at began showing wisdom and compassion beyond his years and took swift action.

The third grader was so upset at what he had witnessed he knew he needed to do something to help.

“That made me sad so I went home and I asked my mom, ‘What can I do to help?’” Taipalus told WXYZ-TV.

Taipalus in response has started a fundraising campaign to help pay for lunches for students who don’t have enough money for lunch on their account.

The campaign so far has raised over $14,800 on crowdfunding site FundRazr, enough to pay for 4000 reduced price lunches.

video at link

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
30. Shame, Paul Ryan! Shame! But then, you have no shame.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:41 PM
Mar 2014

I can't wait till the Rude One hears about this.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
35. Yep. I used to volunteer as a lunch room monitor when my middle schooler was in grade school.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:59 PM
Mar 2014

There were a lot more kids who bought their lunch than who brought it, and the lunch-from-home contingent had lunchboxes. Very, very few brown bags in sight.

Johonny

(20,681 posts)
36. he knows the not hungry kid has someone in congress who cared for him
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:12 PM
Mar 2014

So Paul Ryan we should naturally raise food stamp amounts and then everyone can have that home made lunch? Oh wait we can't do think either. The GOP if you're not starving then you're not American enough. Great mid-term election message there.

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