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Former NSA contractor Edward Snowden accused Sen. Dianne Feinstein of hypocrisy Tuesday for complaining about alleged CIA spying on U.S. senators while tolerating government spying on private citizens.
Feinstein, the California Democrat who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Tuesday that the CIA had searched the committee's computers and that the search was potentially criminal and may have violated the Fourth Amendment.
"It's clear the CIA was trying to play 'keep away' with documents relevant to an investigation by their overseers in Congress, and that's a serious constitutional concern, said Snowden in a statement to NBC News. But it's equally if not more concerning that we're seeing another 'Merkel Effect,' where an elected official does not care at all that the rights of millions of ordinary citizens are violated by our spies, but suddenly it's a scandal when a politician finds out the same thing happens to them."
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/cia-senate-snooping/snowden-feinstein-hypocrite-blasting-cia-spying-n49881
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)this country is being destroyed by fools.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)are frighteningly disconnected from reality. For example, the Chevron CEO being against fracking by his house, but being for it by other people's houses. Or the Republicans who are completely against abortion and birth control until it comes to their family. Or they're "tough on crime" unless the criminal is rich (or donating to Republican campaigns).
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)gulliver
(13,180 posts)The CIA (supposedly, I haven't read the evidence yet), messes with some documents relevant to an investigation by Congressional overseers.
That's on the one hand. On the other hand, the NSA acts under Congressional oversight to gather phone records to be analyzed under court order.
And those two are "the same" enough to Snowden's discerning, unselfishly motivated, modest mind to accuse a Senator (who is in fact pointing out something potentially very Constitutionally weighty) a hypocrite.
Man, that'll clean your teeth better than fluoride.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Senate Committee On Intelligence, and she gives the go ahead to any and all spook agencies and their requests for more monies to spy on We The People. All this approval comes about so that her husband can then bid on the contracts that have to do with the Surveillance.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Dude, that is sooooo last year.
The freaking LID has been blown off of that lie.
I'm surprised anyone would have the nerve to post that myth here.
erronis
(15,222 posts)And later said that he was either "giving the most truthful" or perhaps "least deceitful" answer that he could at that time.
Is it possible to live with yourself (and can your children ever be proud of you) when you are exposed as a grand prevaricator? This is probably true of a huge percentage of our politicians and ranking officials (and business management.) Do penances and donations to the church/party/cabal of your choice make it better?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I believe that his direct quote was "the least untruthful".
He was testifying before The Senate,
and LIED during his testimony,
and then ADMITTED he lied under oath,
AND.......
The Senate has done NOTHING.
So not only is Clapper an International Laughing Stock,
but now so is our Senate and our whole system of government.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Totally re-write the Senate Code of Ethics, she might have been impeached by now.
For anyone in the US Senate to head various committees, and to leak sensitive information from those committees to her husband Richard Blum, so that he can go ahead and secure bids on contracts that have benefited his various construction firms close to if not more than one billions worth of dollars, than at least that much, and then for her to turn around and state that the everyday citizen in this nation needs to be spied on, all I can say is she is beyond contempt.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)our intelligence agencies are violating the 4th Amendment? That they are so powerful that Congress cant control them? Do you think that burning Snowden at the stake will fix this? We may have a Constitutional crisis and some here are obsessed with the punishment of the whistle-blower that opened our eyes.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Snowden just blew the whistle on him.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)If only he had exposed all of this under Bush, he'd be golden. Feinstein may be a Democratic Senator, but her criticizing the NSA (and by extension, Obama) is probably enough to get her thrown under the bus, too.
(Not that I would defend her getting thrown under the bus - the woman has enriched herself and her husband by voting for contracting jobs he later received).
zeemike
(18,998 posts)that symbol on the gate is the symbol of the Ukraine...
But I guess the implication is that because he is in Russia, he should STFU about his own country because he sought asylum in Russia.
Again we find guilt by association where there is none...Russia and Putin are now the touchstone by which you can dismiss anything you want dismissed.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)Tuesday, March 11, 10:32 AM
... The origin of this study, the CIAs detention and interrogation program, began operations in 2002, though it was not until September, 2006 that members of the intelligence committee, other than the chairman and the vice chairman were briefed. In fact, we were briefed by then-CIA Director Hayden only hours before President Bush disclosed the program to the public ...
As a result of the staff initial report, I proposed and then-Vice Chairman Bond agreed and the committee overwhelmingly approved that the committee conduct an expansive and full review of the CIAs detention and interrogation program ...
After a series of meetings, I learned that on two occasions CIA personnel electronically removed committee access to CIA documents after providing them to the committee. This included roughly 870 documents or page of documents that were removed in February 2010; and secondly, roughly another 50 that were removed in mid-May 2010. This was done without the knowledge or approval of committee members or staff, and in violation of our written agreements. Further, this type of behavior would not have been possible had the CIA allowed the committee to conduct the review of documents here in the Senate. In short, this was the exact sort of CIA interference in our investigation that we sought to avoid at the outset ...
At some point in 2010, committee staff searching the documents that had been made available found draft versions of what is now called the internal Panetta review. We believe these documents were written by CIA personnel to summarize and analyze the materials that had been provided to the committee for its review. The Panetta review documents were no more highly classified than other information we had received for our investigation. In fact, the documents appeared based on the same information already provided to the committee. What was unique and interesting about the internal documents was not their classification level but rather their analysis and acknowledgement of significant CIA wrongdoing ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/transcript-sen-dianne-feinstein-says-cia-searched-intelligence-committee-computers/2014/03/11/200dc9ac-a928-11e3-8599-ce7295b6851c_story.html
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)agencies were given carte blanc to expand their powers to a point where IMO they control the country. I dont blame Pres Obama because I believe when he got into office he found an intelligence cabal that was extremely powerful.
Clapper lied to Congress because he knew he could because they have no power over him.
spanone
(135,816 posts)Cha
(297,123 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Since we all know how you feel about Mr. Snowden, I'd like to know if you have an opinion on NSA spying. Do you?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)I have you on ignore.
Bwhahahaha.
"I'd like to know if you have an opinion on NSA spying."
They're spies, have been for more than 60 years, but it's illegal to spy on Americans.
ACLU: Sen. Feinstein Accuses CIA of Attempting to Undermine Torture Investigation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024647827
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)So, if it is illegal, why do they spy on Americans?
WillyT
(72,631 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)pragmatic_dem
(410 posts)what's good for the gander is good for the goose.
After all, if you don't have anything to hide, then you have nothing to worry about, right?
But why beat around the GW Bush?
Clearly you have been identified as a threat to the nation or you wouldn't have been targeted by our security forces.
Turn yourself in and we promise you'll receive a fair military tribunal.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Strike a blow for liberty!
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jazzimov
(1,456 posts)in order to criticize the USA for human rights issues.
Pot, meet kettle.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)blue neen
(12,319 posts)Snowden would have been better off leaving out the "keep away" remark.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
Cha
(297,123 posts)Weasel..
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Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)that needed to be said.