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Stuart G

(38,653 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:11 AM Mar 2014

Paul Ryan has defined himself...forever...good!!

His comment," -- Some inner city men suffer from a culture that does not value hard work", defines him. Like the 47 percent comment of Romney. The story about the boy and "lunch" further defines him. It defines him and his fellow selfish assholes.
But this is out there for all to see, clear and focused, exactly what he stands for.

Good...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like Christy with the steel from the twin towers. These selfish assholes make it clear exactly who they are for all to see.

The emperor really has no clothes......for all to see....
Good..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..

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Paul Ryan has defined himself...forever...good!! (Original Post) Stuart G Mar 2014 OP
Who the fuck does that asshole think he is that he knows Cha Mar 2014 #1
You are correct, all he cares about is indeed.."his next brainwashed $$$$" Stuart G Mar 2014 #3
You hit the nail right on the head! marew Mar 2014 #17
I wished it was so. The problem is that Ryan is familiar of such comments Mass Mar 2014 #2
Then it's up to the people - and media - to unmask that charlatan for being the racist BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #18
The emperor may have no clothes, but when his audience thrives on hallucinations... JHB Mar 2014 #4
he cited Charles Murray Enrique Mar 2014 #5
Racist, White Supremicist too. Glitterati Mar 2014 #6
The Bell Curve drew on explicitly racist sources starroute Mar 2014 #22
Best book on the subject of race and IQ (and one of the best non-fiction books ever written) wryter2000 Mar 2014 #45
Holy shit! wryter2000 Mar 2014 #43
I am glad you mentioned Ayn Rand.. Stuart G Mar 2014 #9
Yes, his hero Ayn Rand watoos Mar 2014 #12
It predates her wryter2000 Mar 2014 #44
Ah, yes. Charles Murray, that rings a bell... QuestForSense Mar 2014 #41
Clearly he thinks certain children should starve to death. Rex Mar 2014 #7
From a career politician who has been living off taxpayers all his adult life jsr Mar 2014 #8
Yes, but he believes he's privileged because of the color of his skin. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #19
The problem is that plenty of people agree with him Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #10
Yes, I think hatred of the poor came to America with the Pilgrims. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #14
pilgrims brought more than that, sadly unionthug777 Mar 2014 #37
Perhaps, when you have nothing left to lose... Helen Borg Mar 2014 #11
Paul Ryan speaks from his platform of white privilege mountain grammy Mar 2014 #13
well said!! handmade34 Mar 2014 #16
i really feel like they cannot hide any more. mopinko Mar 2014 #15
Machiavellianism Augiedog Mar 2014 #20
That seems to be a common condition in the nation today. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #24
Indeed Princes of the Realm packman Mar 2014 #32
I really hope you're right vlakitti Mar 2014 #21
I agree. He should be finished as a national candidate for office. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #23
Are you shitting me?! Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2014 #25
Still, he should be finished as a national candidate. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #26
Unfortunately many GOPers feel the exact same way Iliyah Mar 2014 #27
And see all that Ryan stands for as badge of honor. They do not fear any repercussions, kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #31
Ryan knows if he keeps doing sulphurdunn Mar 2014 #28
I wonder how he'd feel if SmittynMo Mar 2014 #29
He'd get hired packman Mar 2014 #33
Paul Ryan is all about definition.. JBoy Mar 2014 #30
Lyin' Paul Ryan has been a leech off the government since his father died. TxVietVet Mar 2014 #34
Ryan said this morning, "Of Course It Wasn't About Race" Stuart G Mar 2014 #35
Does he not understand libodem Mar 2014 #40
He's from a small town; he's probably even afraid to drive in the big city. QuestForSense Mar 2014 #36
"Some 1% men suffer from a culture that does not value hard work" Atman Mar 2014 #38
Life inside the bubble - see how it works in the mainstream, paulie toby jo Mar 2014 #39
Now the asshole says.. : when I said "inner city", I meant "rural" Stuart G Mar 2014 #42
Ryan is trying to walk this back Gothmog Mar 2014 #46

Cha

(300,399 posts)
1. Who the fuck does that asshole think he is that he knows
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:15 AM
Mar 2014

fuck all about anything except where his next brainwashed $$$ is coming from?

Stuart G

(38,653 posts)
3. You are correct, all he cares about is indeed.."his next brainwashed $$$$"
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:18 AM
Mar 2014

How aptly put..
He hasn't got a clue, and more important, doesn't give a shit about a clue..

marew

(1,588 posts)
17. You hit the nail right on the head!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:12 AM
Mar 2014

His callousness toward the poor is disgusting! And he is Catholic! Wonder what he thinks of Francis' messages of love, kindness, and compassion? Obviously not much!

Mass

(27,315 posts)
2. I wished it was so. The problem is that Ryan is familiar of such comments
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:18 AM
Mar 2014

(he used and overused Makers and Takers during the 2012 campaign a lot more than Romney did) and people forgot he did.

Frankly, these comments do not surprise me, but this is an example of how the media find him so lovely. They have bought his concerns about poverty without even questioning them. Guess what, he is just like every other gospel of wealth Republicans, full of social darwinism.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
18. Then it's up to the people - and media - to unmask that charlatan for being the racist
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:15 AM
Mar 2014

and bigot that he is, because he was clearly referring to black men with that "inner city" comment. It's code and a subtle dog whistle for his closeted racist supporters. By exposing him for his prejudice, people will shame his supporters by exposing their racism, too.

JHB

(37,190 posts)
4. The emperor may have no clothes, but when his audience thrives on hallucinations...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:49 AM
Mar 2014

...they will see clothes of the finest silk spun from the finest thread because that's what they want to see. And they'll see even fancier embroidery the more lowly, disgusting lllllllllllllllliiiiiiiiiiberrrrrrralllllllls point their lying fingers and that the emperor is naked. The Vulpine Town Crier Compangie will spread gossip across the kingdom: "Didn't they miss the part where they were told that fools couldn't see the fabric! Just proves that liberals are fools and unusually stupid."



Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. he cited Charles Murray
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:01 AM
Mar 2014

we already knew of Ayn Rand's influence on him, now add Charles Murray to that.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
6. Racist, White Supremicist too.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:08 AM
Mar 2014

Murray's book project proposal for Losing Ground made clear its race-baiting purpose: "a huge number of well-meaning whites fear that they are closet racists, and this book tells them they are not. It's going to make them feel better about things they already think but do not know how to say."

Murray's most famous — and notorious — book, The Bell Curve (1994), co-authored with Richard Herrnstein, promoted racial eugenics theories claiming that whites and Asians are genetically superior in intelligence to blacks and Latinos. Like his previous book, The Bell Curve was also made possible by the generous support of ultra-rightwing foundations, including the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation which dished out $100,000 per year as he worked on his book at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, Murray's home since the early 1990s.

http://shameproject.com/profile/charles-murray/

starroute

(12,977 posts)
22. The Bell Curve drew on explicitly racist sources
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:33 AM
Mar 2014
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/Charles-Murray

Many criticisms of The Bell Curve, most notably Charles Lane’s thorough takedown in The New York Review of Books, have pointed out that Murray’s attempts to link social inequality to genes are based on the work of explicitly racist scientists. In an afterward to the book, Murray rejects criticisms that rest on the fact that “we cite thirteen scholars who have received funding from the Pioneer Fund, founded and run ({Lane} alleged) by men who were Nazi sympathizers, eugenicists, and advocates of white racial superiority.” Murray contends that the racist pseudo-scientists he cites “are some of the most respected psychologists of our time” and that “the relationship between the founder of the Pioneer Fund and today’s Pioneer Fund is roughly analogous to that between Henry Ford and today’s Ford Foundation.”

In fact, the Pioneer Fund’s ties to eugenics and white supremacy are not nearly as historically remote as Murray would have his readers believe. The president of the Pioneer Fund at the time The Bell Curve was written was Harry Weyher, who was a personal friend of the Fund’s founder, Wickliffe Draper, and shared his supposedly archaic views on race; just two months after the initial publication of The Bell Curve, Weyher gave an interview in which he argued, among other things, that desegregation had “wreck[ed] the school system.” Another of the Pioneer Fund’s board members at the time Murray was writing, John Trevor Jr., was also an officer of Coalition of Patriotic Societies, which, during his membership, was indicted for sedition over “pro-Nazi activities” and called for the release of all Nazi war criminals. Despite Murray’s claims, the Pioneer Fund continues to support “research” into race differences conducted by outright white supremacists.

In a similar vein, Murray whitewashes the individual people who provided the intellectual foundation for The Bell Curve. To take only one example, Murray and Herrnstein described Richard Lynn, whose work they relied on more than any other individual, as “a leading scholar of racial and ethnic differences.” In his many subsequent defenses of Lynn, Murray neglected to mention the many serious methodological criticisms of Lynn’s work, or his contributions to white supremacist publications including VDARE.com, American Renaissance and Mankind Quarterly, the last of which Lynn also serves on the editorial staff of.

Stuart G

(38,653 posts)
9. I am glad you mentioned Ayn Rand..
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:17 AM
Mar 2014

These attitudes about the poor, are directly from her. They (the poor) are weak and lazy, they are there, cause they don't want to move up. .........

Total denial of the loss of millions of jobs to cheap overseas labor, and poor educational systems that really give the rich an extra step up over everyone else....

Ayn Rand didn't give a shit, neither does Paul Ryan. He defines himself ..good. Selfish Asshole...!!!!!!!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
12. Yes, his hero Ayn Rand
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:47 AM
Mar 2014

who railed against the government interfering with the tobacco industry, she smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day. She also railed against Social Security and Medicare but at the end of her life, which came about from lung cancer, she realized she couldn't pay her hospital bills from her book income. So she had a friend enroll her in Social Security and Medicare on the sly. That is what is so sick about libertarians, they spout their pull yourselves up by your boot straps philosophy until it affects them.

wryter2000

(46,637 posts)
44. It predates her
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:18 PM
Mar 2014

Its' social Darwinism (which has almost nothing to do with Darwin or the theory of evolution). It's been around since England relocated "the criminal classes" to their colonies.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
41. Ah, yes. Charles Murray, that rings a bell...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:44 AM
Mar 2014

Charles Murray is one of the most influential right-wing ideological architects of the post-Reagan era. His career began in a secret Pentagon counterinsurgency operation in rural Thailand during the Vietnam War, a program whose stated purpose included applying counter-insurgency strategies tested in rural Thailand to America’s own restive inner cities and minority populations. By the late 1970s, Charles Murray was drawing up plans for the US Justice Department that called for massively increasing incarceration rates. In the 1980s, backed by an unprecedented marketing campaign, Murray suddenly emerged as the nation’s most powerful advocate for abolishing welfare programs for single mothers. Since then, Murray revived discredited racist eugenics theories “proving” that blacks and Latinos are genetically inferior to whites, and today argues that the lower classes are inferior to the upper classes due to breeding differences.

Source: https://shameproject.com/profile/charles-murray/

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Clearly he thinks certain children should starve to death.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:14 AM
Mar 2014

But HEY...at least they died with dignity!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
19. Yes, but he believes he's privileged because of the color of his skin.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:22 AM
Mar 2014

And corporate media is mum.

Living off of taxpayers is a right exclusively available to the White rich men in this country. He and the majority of Republicans believe that those who fall outside of that Aryan-race guideline should suffer and yet be grateful that they can give everything they work hard for to those very same White rich men - men like Ryan.

If a Democrat said something like this, corporate media would be all over it, excoriating him. But because Paul is a Republican, he gets a pass.

If our media returned to their role as our Fourth Estate, Republicans would never hold power in any government again.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
10. The problem is that plenty of people agree with him
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:34 AM
Mar 2014

We get this "undeserving poor" bullshit here (UK) as well and sadly, many people believe it.

SunSeeker

(52,380 posts)
14. Yes, I think hatred of the poor came to America with the Pilgrims.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:05 AM
Mar 2014

We could end poverty in America, but we don't want to. America sees poverty as a moral failing, and that the poor should be punished...by being poor. It is horrifically unchristian, and yet American Christians seem to hold this belief above all else, to their great detriment.

mountain grammy

(26,876 posts)
13. Paul Ryan speaks from his platform of white privilege
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:59 AM
Mar 2014

and has no clue about any culture other than his own white, rich privileged world.

Shame on America for electing and promoting this liar and his lying stinking party.

handmade34

(22,761 posts)
16. well said!!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:09 AM
Mar 2014



&quot he) has no clue about any culture other than his own white, rich privileged world"

no words for the disgust I feel for him and his friends


mopinko

(70,900 posts)
15. i really feel like they cannot hide any more.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:05 AM
Mar 2014

but i saw through them all several presidents ago, so….

Augiedog

(2,567 posts)
20. Machiavellianism
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:27 AM
Mar 2014

Anyone who thinks Paul Ryan and his ilk are Ayn Randians just exercising capitalist principles had best read Machiavelli's "The Prince". These people see themselves as more than just privileged due to their birthright whiteness...they see themselves in the Machiavellian light of Princes. This by Machiavellian definition means they will use any and all means to attain their desired goals, including the usurpation of American Constitutional authority in benefit to corporate and 1% autarchist rule. Our very existence as defined by our constitution is being threatened by these latter day wanna be Princes. And as Princes like to do, they are willing to sacrifice any and all in pursuit of power and gold. They see the common man as nothing more than the walking dead, and the sooner dead the better.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
24. That seems to be a common condition in the nation today.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:36 AM
Mar 2014

Most of the big money dilberts are so afflicted.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
32. Indeed Princes of the Realm
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:58 AM
Mar 2014

BUT- I disagree that they want the common man dead. They want to keep that man in a constant state of servitude. Who would they have as cannon fodder for their wars? WHo would they have to park their cars, build their houses, take out their garbage and support them in the style they are accustomed to having?
No, they need the common man. They just want to make sure they know their place and stay in it. If a nail comes out of the woodwork of their lives, they want to make sure they have the means to hammer it back down thru their repressive laws, taxation and spread of hatred toward one another be it the dreaded liberals, the hippies (saw a bumper sticker still referring to them the other day),the Blacks, the Hispanics, the Gays, etc., etc.

vlakitti

(401 posts)
21. I really hope you're right
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:28 AM
Mar 2014

But I suspect nobody else will pick up on it and it will quickly go away.

The corporate media is very forgiving of right wing bullies and has no memory.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
23. I agree. He should be finished as a national candidate for office.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:35 AM
Mar 2014

But his proposal to privatize Medicare should have destroyed him even earlier.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
25. Are you shitting me?!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:38 AM
Mar 2014

He's now the GOP front runner!!

Remember that hateful behavior that normal people would find repulsive is like catnip to a Republican.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
27. Unfortunately many GOPers feel the exact same way
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:49 AM
Mar 2014

He's speaking to the GOP constituents and this type of rhetoric onslaught will continue until after 2014 because fear is the only weapon they have. GOPers blame to the poor, women and minorities. The not so funny part is that a huge population of GOP constituents are at or below poverty line. This only confirms how brainwashed they are.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
31. And see all that Ryan stands for as badge of honor. They do not fear any repercussions,
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:54 AM
Mar 2014

they have their guns holstered in ignorance and they are fine with themselves.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
28. Ryan knows if he keeps doing
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:53 AM
Mar 2014

what he's doing he'll keep being reelected and continue to feed higher up the republican food chain. The only thing that might make his career sputter would be for someone to discover he was gay or to keep his face and his name off the television every goddamn day.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
29. I wonder how he'd feel if
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:53 AM
Mar 2014

all his overseas funds collapsed, he lost his job and benefits, the stock market crashed, and he was left with nothing.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
34. Lyin' Paul Ryan has been a leech off the government since his father died.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:00 AM
Mar 2014

Ryan probably thinks Manual Labor is the President of Mexico. WTF?! I hope he keeps making comments like this. He and the rest of the conservanazis have nothing but contempt for working Americans, no matter what color they are. They HATE poor and working folks, black, white or brown. Never forget that. They assume workers are in this country to be exploited. I think it's going to get like back in the 1930's when people had enough and started organizing.
I also know that Ryan views veterans' benefits with a weird idea. IN a letter to me, he explained to me that the only ones who deserve veterans' benefits were veterans that had been in ACTUAL combat in an ACTUAL war that could be verified, then they could receive some help. Knowing how conservanazis operate, their idea of help ain' much.
Let them spew their bu$hit. It only reinforces the fact that they are nothing more than a greedy bunch of heartless bastards.

Stuart G

(38,653 posts)
35. Ryan said this morning, "Of Course It Wasn't About Race"
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:13 AM
Mar 2014

view the quote here at talking points memo. It is the lead story:


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
36. He's from a small town; he's probably even afraid to drive in the big city.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:18 AM
Mar 2014

His comments are those of a typical pussy, which he is. I always think about him drinking that $300 bottle of wine AT LUNCH WITH LOBBYISTS and, when caught red-handed, denying he knew it was that expensive. He knew. Hard work that.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
38. "Some 1% men suffer from a culture that does not value hard work"
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:21 AM
Mar 2014

Unless you define "hard work" as reading the returns of your latest investments.

Stuart G

(38,653 posts)
42. Now the asshole says.. : when I said "inner city", I meant "rural"
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:01 PM
Mar 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024657071

link to op by Enrique

that was posted at 11:35 CT.. this morning

so...he doesn't know the difference????
well........he knows the difference... He is an asshole
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